Will 2X AGP card work in 4X/8X slot?

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It depends on the connector on your Mother Board. If you have a
Universal AGP 3 Connector/Motherboard ~ which is keyed to 1.5 volts
that will support your 2x card; however you would not operate at 4x/8x
speeds.

If your motherboard does not support the Universal connector then it
will not function.....

A few additional words here:
http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_AGP.html

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No. The older card uses a different voltage than that motherboard offers.

--
DaveW



<sdeyoreo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My new mobo has AGP 4X/8X, but the video card I plan on using, an ATI
> 128 All-In-Wonder, is AGP 2X. Will it work?

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I don't get the other replies, I'm confused

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sdeyoreo@hotmail.com wrote:

> My new mobo has AGP 4X/8X, but the video card I plan on using, an ATI
> 128 All-In-Wonder, is AGP 2X. Will it work?

It should. The card is '2x' but was billed as 4x "ready" and should not
only operate 4x but should be 4x voltage complaint.

http://www.ati.com/products/rage128pro/aiw128pro/specs....

ALL-IN-WONDER® 128 PRO
Specifications
.
.
.
AGP 4X/2X upgrade card


The card came out before 4x motherboards, which may be why you remember it
being 2x. Per the press release:

"Ready for the next generation of AGP 4X systems, the ALL-IN-WONDER 128 PRO
provides full AGP 4X support, permitting the full benefit of the new AGP 4X
specification. This further enhances the top of the line performance of the
ALL-IN-WONDER 128 PRO for 3D games and real-time rendering. For protection
against obsolescence, the ALL-IN-WONDER 128 PRO is backward compatible to
support AGP 2X and can easily be switched to a 4X system when they become
available."

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The mobo says supports AGP 3.0 & 8X mode. The ATI card is 2X. I don't
know if it's 1.5V or 3.3V. Is the answer still no? I've Googled and
read the responses, but it's confusing; too many signalling voltages,
speeds, etc...

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You might get better advice if you can give the mainboard type.

For example, I'm using an Asus A8V Deluxe board (Athlon64, Socket 939). Its
manual states that it cannot use a 3.3V card. (I believe that would disallow
all AGP 1.0 cards, such as your All-in-wonder 128.)

Sorry that I can't be more encouraging.

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<sdeyoreo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The mobo says supports AGP 3.0 & 8X mode. The ATI card is 2X. I don't
> know if it's 1.5V or 3.3V. Is the answer still no? I've Googled and
> read the responses, but it's confusing; too many signalling voltages,
> speeds, etc...

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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:55:16 -0600, David Maynard <nospam@private.net>
wrote:

>sdeyoreo@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> My new mobo has AGP 4X/8X, but the video card I plan on using, an ATI
>> 128 All-In-Wonder, is AGP 2X. Will it work?
>
>It should. The card is '2x' but was billed as 4x "ready" and should not
>only operate 4x but should be 4x voltage complaint.
>
>http://www.ati.com/products/rage128pro/aiw128pro/specs....
>
>A
Wow, I'm getting about about 50-50 yes or no. I'm not sure it'a a PRO
model. It is an ATI 128 RAGE All-In Wonder AGP 2X. It's in Win98SE,
show's in device manager as AGP Bus 1X/2X. So I don't know any more .
I have the manuals for the card, but they're to generic. I don't know
if it's 3.3V or 1.5V.
Anyway, I'm rebuilding as ystem and replaced everything but video
card, case, ps & CDROM. If I need a new video card, I'll propably bite
the bullet and get everything else too, and keep the old one alive. I
have a brand new awesome one going, see it at:
http://sdeyoreo.tripod.com/Alien-X.htm

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sdeyoreo@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:55:16 -0600, David Maynard <nospam@private.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>sdeyoreo@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My new mobo has AGP 4X/8X, but the video card I plan on using, an ATI
>>>128 All-In-Wonder, is AGP 2X. Will it work?
>>
>>It should. The card is '2x' but was billed as 4x "ready" and should not
>>only operate 4x but should be 4x voltage complaint.
>>
>>http://www.ati.com/products/rage128pro/aiw128pro/specs....
>>
>>A
>
> Wow, I'm getting about about 50-50 yes or no. I'm not sure it'a a PRO
> model. It is an ATI 128 RAGE All-In Wonder AGP 2X.

Sorry, I forgot there were two versions. If it's not the Pro then it's 2x
and will not work in a 4x/8x slot.

> It's in Win98SE,
> show's in device manager as AGP Bus 1X/2X.

Well, I suspect you're looking at the motherboard's AGP slot specs with
that reading.


> So I don't know any more .
> I have the manuals for the card, but they're to generic. I don't know
> if it's 3.3V or 1.5V.

If it's 2x it'll be 3.3. That's the problem. Signaling voltage changed to
1.5 with 4x.

> Anyway, I'm rebuilding as ystem and replaced everything but video
> card, case, ps & CDROM. If I need a new video card, I'll propably bite
> the bullet and get everything else too, and keep the old one alive.

That's what I'd do.

> I
> have a brand new awesome one going, see it at:
> http://sdeyoreo.tripod.com/Alien-X.htm

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<sdeyoreo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u7au419n5kr8rbqtla1rmfnhne04dnq7o5@4ax.com...
> My new mobo has AGP 4X/8X, but the video card I plan on using, an ATI
> 128 All-In-Wonder, is AGP 2X. Will it work?

No, different voltage used for 4x/8x video cards.

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:01:49 -0600, David Maynard <nospam@private.net>
wrote:


>Sorry, I forgot there were two versions. If it's not the Pro then it's 2x
>and will not work in a 4x/8x slot.
>
>> It's in Win98SE,
>> show's in device manager as AGP Bus 1X/2X.
>
>Well, I suspect you're looking at the motherboard's AGP slot specs with
>that reading.
>
>
Exactly

>> Anyway, I'm rebuilding as ystem and replaced everything but video
>> card, case, ps & CDROM. If I need a new video card, I'll propably bite
>> the bullet and get everything else too, and keep the old one alive.
>
>That's what I'd do.
>
Thanks for your help. I'll see what's on sale in the Sunday papers.