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Anonymous
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April 23, 2005 12:31:36 AM

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Hi,

I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.

and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan. Seems like NOS in need
for speed. lol

my specs are:
MSI PT880 Neo-LSR
2x512MB Dual Channel PC 3200 KingMax
ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
4 Hard Drives:
• 1 SATA MAXTOR 300GB
• 1 IDE WESTERN DIGITAL 80GB
• 1 IDE Maxtor 20GB
• 1 IDE Seagate 8GB
• 1 IDE Seagate 200GB

1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
1 2005FPW DELL 20.1" LCD
1 Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound.

I first had 2 power supply.
1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
The other 1 connected to all the drives.
Both power supplies are 350W each.

Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
*Boom* with lightss.

Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply which is
connected to all of the drives + mobo + graphic card.

the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before, and I was
checking my emails and I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes,
the Other power supply blowed!!

2 Power supplies down. and I don't know if it's the CPU, because
that's the only change I did.
Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.

I then opened the power supply to see what's wrong with it.
I found out that the fuse of the power supply blowed for both of the
power supplies.

Does anyone has the solution to this, or did anyone had the same
problem?

Should I buy a surge protector, a more powerful power supply or
anyting that would make my system work again?

Thank you in advance,
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b ) Power supply
April 23, 2005 12:31:37 AM

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Try a power supply calculator to be sure 350w is enough. Here's one
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
"coco3271" <coco3271@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:9c799$42695f28$455da0d2$19751@allthenewsgroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.
>
> and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
> We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan. Seems like NOS in need
> for speed. lol
>
> my specs are:
> MSI PT880 Neo-LSR
> 2x512MB Dual Channel PC 3200 KingMax
> ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
> 4 Hard Drives:
> • 1 SATA MAXTOR 300GB
> • 1 IDE WESTERN DIGITAL 80GB
> • 1 IDE Maxtor 20GB
> • 1 IDE Seagate 8GB
> • 1 IDE Seagate 200GB
>
> 1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
> 1 2005FPW DELL 20.1" LCD
> 1 Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound.
>
> I first had 2 power supply.
> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
> Both power supplies are 350W each.
>
> Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
> *Boom* with lightss.
>
> Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply which is
> connected to all of the drives + mobo + graphic card.
>
> the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before, and I was
> checking my emails and I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes,
> the Other power supply blowed!!
>
> 2 Power supplies down. and I don't know if it's the CPU, because
> that's the only change I did.
> Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.
>
> I then opened the power supply to see what's wrong with it.
> I found out that the fuse of the power supply blowed for both of the
> power supplies.
>
> Does anyone has the solution to this, or did anyone had the same
> problem?
>
> Should I buy a surge protector, a more powerful power supply or
> anyting that would make my system work again?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 23, 2005 12:31:37 AM

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You need a single, larger, HIGH QUALITY brand (Antec recommended) power
supply unit for all those devices.

--
DaveW



"coco3271" <coco3271@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:9c799$42695f28$455da0d2$19751@allthenewsgroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.
>
> and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
> We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan. Seems like NOS in need
> for speed. lol
>
> my specs are:
> MSI PT880 Neo-LSR
> 2x512MB Dual Channel PC 3200 KingMax
> ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
> 4 Hard Drives:
> • 1 SATA MAXTOR 300GB
> • 1 IDE WESTERN DIGITAL 80GB
> • 1 IDE Maxtor 20GB
> • 1 IDE Seagate 8GB
> • 1 IDE Seagate 200GB
>
> 1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
> 1 2005FPW DELL 20.1" LCD
> 1 Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound.
>
> I first had 2 power supply.
> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
> Both power supplies are 350W each.
>
> Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
> *Boom* with lightss.
>
> Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply which is
> connected to all of the drives + mobo + graphic card.
>
> the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before, and I was
> checking my emails and I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes,
> the Other power supply blowed!!
>
> 2 Power supplies down. and I don't know if it's the CPU, because
> that's the only change I did.
> Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.
>
> I then opened the power supply to see what's wrong with it.
> I found out that the fuse of the power supply blowed for both of the
> power supplies.
>
> Does anyone has the solution to this, or did anyone had the same
> problem?
>
> Should I buy a surge protector, a more powerful power supply or
> anyting that would make my system work again?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
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April 23, 2005 12:31:38 AM

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I first had 2 power supply.
>> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
>> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
>> Both power supplies are 350W each.

the one that powered the drives is the dead one?
that would figure, you jumpered the connector?

"RBM" <rbm2(remove this)@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ludae.10924$V02.10183@fe08.lga...
> Try a power supply calculator to be sure 350w is enough. Here's one
> http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
> "coco3271" <coco3271@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:9c799$42695f28$455da0d2$19751@allthenewsgroups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.
>>
>> and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
>> We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan. Seems like NOS in need
>> for speed. lol
>>
>> my specs are:
>> MSI PT880 Neo-LSR
>> 2x512MB Dual Channel PC 3200 KingMax
>> ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
>> 4 Hard Drives:
>> . 1 SATA MAXTOR 300GB
>> . 1 IDE WESTERN DIGITAL 80GB
>> . 1 IDE Maxtor 20GB
>> . 1 IDE Seagate 8GB
>> . 1 IDE Seagate 200GB
>>
>> 1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
>> 1 2005FPW DELL 20.1" LCD
>> 1 Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound.
>>
>> I first had 2 power supply.
>> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
>> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
>> Both power supplies are 350W each.
>>
>> Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
>> *Boom* with lightss.
>>
>> Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply which is
>> connected to all of the drives + mobo + graphic card.
>>
>> the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before, and I was
>> checking my emails and I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes,
>> the Other power supply blowed!!
>>
>> 2 Power supplies down. and I don't know if it's the CPU, because
>> that's the only change I did.
>> Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.
>>
>> I then opened the power supply to see what's wrong with it.
>> I found out that the fuse of the power supply blowed for both of the
>> power supplies.
>>
>> Does anyone has the solution to this, or did anyone had the same
>> problem?
>>
>> Should I buy a surge protector, a more powerful power supply or
>> anyting that would make my system work again?
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>
>
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 23, 2005 2:31:57 AM

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:D  Yup I jumpered the connector of the power supply to get it working
without being connected to the motherboard.

So someone advise me to buy another 500W power supply and connect only
the graphic card mouse and monitor and then try adding one hardware at
a time to see where the failure comes from.

But does anyone knows if It exists power supply that has Fuse easily
replacable because the power supplies that was blown, the fuse was
soldered to the circuit.

Thanks guys
April 23, 2005 2:31:58 AM

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there is something about using a straight short to jumper. on some PSU's it
really has no effect on others it takes its life in a short time. I read a
post awhile back that was about this, it was recommended to use a resistor
of a specifies ohmage to jumper. I can't give the specifics, but if I'm
wrong that will motivate somebody who knows if its true or not. I have
experienced it, but the PSU was marginal to begin with.




"coco3271" <coco3271@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:7a5eb$42697b5d$455da0d2$28354@allthenewsgroups.com...
> :D  Yup I jumpered the connector of the power supply to get it working
> without being connected to the motherboard.
>
> So someone advise me to buy another 500W power supply and connect only
> the graphic card mouse and monitor and then try adding one hardware at
> a time to see where the failure comes from.
>
> But does anyone knows if It exists power supply that has Fuse easily
> replacable because the power supplies that was blown, the fuse was
> soldered to the circuit.
>
> Thanks guys
>
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 23, 2005 2:47:48 AM

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"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
news:1xdae.5308$Gq6.4@fe02.lga...
> I first had 2 power supply.
> >> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
> >> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
> >> Both power supplies are 350W each.
>
> the one that powered the drives is the dead one?
> that would figure, you jumpered the connector?
>
> "RBM" <rbm2(remove this)@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:ludae.10924$V02.10183@fe08.lga...
> > Try a power supply calculator to be sure 350w is enough. Here's one
> > http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
> > "coco3271" <coco3271@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:9c799$42695f28$455da0d2$19751@allthenewsgroups.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.
> >>
> >> and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
> >> We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan. Seems like NOS in need
> >> for speed. lol
> >>
> >> my specs are:
> >> MSI PT880 Neo-LSR
> >> 2x512MB Dual Channel PC 3200 KingMax
> >> ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
> >> 4 Hard Drives:
> >> . 1 SATA MAXTOR 300GB
> >> . 1 IDE WESTERN DIGITAL 80GB
> >> . 1 IDE Maxtor 20GB
> >> . 1 IDE Seagate 8GB
> >> . 1 IDE Seagate 200GB
> >>
> >> 1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
> >> 1 2005FPW DELL 20.1" LCD
> >> 1 Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound.
> >>
> >> I first had 2 power supply.
> >> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
> >> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
> >> Both power supplies are 350W each.
> >>
> >> Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
> >> *Boom* with lightss.
> >>
> >> Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply which is
> >> connected to all of the drives + mobo + graphic card.
> >>
> >> the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before, and I was
> >> checking my emails and I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes,
> >> the Other power supply blowed!!
> >>
> >> 2 Power supplies down. and I don't know if it's the CPU, because
> >> that's the only change I did.
> >> Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.
> >>
> >> I then opened the power supply to see what's wrong with it.
> >> I found out that the fuse of the power supply blowed for both of the
> >> power supplies.
> >>
> >> Does anyone has the solution to this, or did anyone had the same
> >> problem?
> >>
> >> Should I buy a surge protector, a more powerful power supply or
> >> anyting that would make my system work again?
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >>
You need a GOOD 450-500W for that lot. Good brand name, not some unknown
made in China rubbish.
Mike.
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 23, 2005 4:28:44 AM

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oh wow Thanks Dave and JAD, I didn't know that, I am heading tonight
to buy a 600W power supply and a UPS. Because I don't want that to
happen again.

Thanks for all your help.
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 23, 2005 8:20:25 AM

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coco3271 wrote:
>
> oh wow Thanks Dave and JAD, I didn't know that, I am heading tonight
> to buy a 600W power supply and a UPS. Because I don't want that to
> happen again.
>
> Thanks for all your help.

You said you had 4 hard drives in your system, but you list 5.

I cannot, for the life of me, work out why anyone in their right mind
would need so many drives in a system. Sure, if you edit video I could
understand a few 200 - 300GB drives - but in there you have a poxy 8Gb
drive. Why? Is it like painting "go faster" stripes on a car?


Odie
--
Retrodata
www.retrodata.co.uk
Globally Local Data Recovery Experts
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 24, 2005 12:23:58 AM

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coco3271 wrote:

> I have a problem with my previous Seagate 80GB hard Drive.
> It's actually not working, you cannot hear any noise,

> I have a lot of files in there that I would want to recover

> I was reading about how to recover hard drive, and some of them state
> that when you can hear a regular noise, at the same frequency, you
> can put that in the freezer and then it worked again for once.
> Another one is droping it on the floor.

Don't drop it. The freezer trick may work if a power transistor
(transistors drive the motor and head servo) is marginal, but don't let
condensation form (refrigerator is safer). If the drive spins with the
data cable (ribbon cable) unplugged, the problem is somewhere else in
the drive electronics.
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 24, 2005 12:56:05 AM

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coco3271 wrote:

> I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.
> and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
> We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan.

> ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
> 4 Hard Drives:

> 1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109

> I first had 2 power supply.
> 1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
> The other 1 connected to all the drives.
> Both power supplies are 350W each.
>
> Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
> *Boom* with lightss.
>
> Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply

> the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before,
> I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes, the Other
> power supply blowed!!

> Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.

A blown fuse in a power supply usually means more than a fuse blew.
Suspect a shorted high voltage transistor, diode in the voltage
doubler, or a large high voltage capacitor (200-450V). Repair by a
shop costs more than an entire new power supply. What brands were your
350W supplies? Quality varies greatly, with 1 company's 500W being
like another's 250W.

> It's Fixed! I bought an Aspire 500W power supply.

> http://www.techfreaks.org/reviews/aspire500w.shtml

I hope it works well for you, but it looks less substantial than this
480W Tagan, made by the same company, Topower:
http://www.tech-pc.co.uk/reviews/tagan/inside.jpg
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 24, 2005 1:14:07 AM

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JAD wrote:

> there is something about using a straight short to
> jumper. on some PSU's it really has no effect on
> others it takes its life in a short time. I read a
> post awhile back that was about this, it was
> recommended to use a resistor of a specifies ohmage
> to jumper.

A direct short between the green Power_On wire and any of the black
ground wires will do absolutely no harm, and the resistor
(approximately 500 ohms, but 1,000 ohms almost always works) is for
protection against incorrect connections. Some suppies won't turn on
when the green and black wires are shorted together because they won't
turn on without a load on the +5V output (sometimes also the +3.3V).
Anonymous
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a b ) Power supply
April 24, 2005 11:30:54 AM

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Hey thanks everyone for sharing your expertise.

I will put my hard drive in the refregirator.
Anyone know how long should it stay?

Yes, my 350W power supply was "CHANNEL WELL TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD and
the other 350W power supply was "OKIA-350-ATX".

It blew because I was doing some 3D benchmarking. I asked a sale
vendor for my specs, and he seems actually sure that It was the
graphic card because the minimum requirement with the X800 Series,
are 400W.

When I bought the 500W power supply, I did test again the benchmark,
and It came through it.

I don't really need the 500W but it depends on how many drives are
using the power, how many USB devices you are connecting to, and
definitely the processor needs a higher power for a 3.2Ghz.

The heat generated when playing games are much higher, thus I needed
some more fan to cool down the whole system.

Do you guys know if the SATA hard drive is a little SCSI?
my SATA one says Maxtor 6 B300S0 SCSI Disk Device when I go to the
Device Manager under the Disk Drives trees.

Thanks in advance
!