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May 19, 2006 8:51:56 PM

Thanks to a vote of the good people of this forum. Actionmans sock puppets, slinky's and keyboard antics have been put to an end. Its about time the member got together to rid the forum of the immature, resource wasting morons. Thanks again everyone.

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May 19, 2006 9:43:44 PM

*looks at user list


what are you talking about?
May 19, 2006 9:47:08 PM

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Its about time the member got together to rid the forum of the immature, resource wasting morons.


Bye-bye then.
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May 19, 2006 11:31:34 PM

Wow, are you always this angry?

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Thanks to a vote of the good people of this forum.


What vote?

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Actionmans sock puppets, slinky's and keyboard antics have been put to an end.


How so?

Seriously though, why are you so upset over it? And why are you singling me out?

Not so seriously, are you really a Mrs? or even a Ms?
May 19, 2006 11:50:20 PM

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Bye-bye then.


:lol:  High five! As if they're still not cool!
May 19, 2006 11:57:33 PM

You're apparently under the misconception that there was some vote. There was no vote, just a warning to those few who made it constant problem by posting article titles in all caps (bad internet etiquette). When they stopped (or were stopped) - Action Man was asked to withhold, as he had no reason to correct bad Netiquette.
May 19, 2006 11:59:31 PM

Thanks jake.
May 25, 2006 11:11:13 AM

Your Action man avatar still looks like Lee Majors to me [/projectile vomits]
May 25, 2006 7:01:59 PM

Because it is.
June 1, 2006 2:03:41 PM

Beyond the fact that sometimes some people deserved the puppet, keyboard and/or the slinkie, it was kinda insulting.
Ok ok, it has more "psychological shock", but it would have been more polite and correct just to point to those people their mistakes, instead of throwing them into their faces.
Just what I think, that's all.
June 1, 2006 3:00:39 PM

I don't know about other people but I come here to find out about hardware so I can make good buying decisions. Listening to bickering, stupid kids is an incredible turn off. I wish the moderators would do something a bit more effective than fiddling around with capital letters. That's not the problem. The problem is good faith - or rather lack of it. It's not difficult to discern. People looking for a bunfight should get a warning then they should get banned. If no-one ever smacks their bottoms (1) they'll never learn how to behave (2) other users will get fed up wading through the noise posts and go elsewhere.
June 1, 2006 5:21:35 PM

Let me fill you in on a few things before getting judgemental about the moderators. First, there are five of us for this place. We're all volunteers. That means that the job has to fit in around our day jobs.

Second, have you seen how many different boards there are on here? Hundreds. Do you really think we have time to read every single post in every single thread? No. That's what the "report" button is for. We simply cannot trudge through every single post. If someone perceives there to be abuse or whatnot, then they report it. That's when we step in.

Third, if we were to start banning people because a thread wandered off topic, this place would be empty. If you read the Terms of Service (which you agreed to abide by when you registered here), there's nothing in there about that. If we were to edit those posts, there wouldn't be enough hours in the day. So the way is to just ignore them and concentrate on the real stuff, when people spam rubbish, post advertisements, post porn or start making threats and viscious insults, rather than the normal flaming etc.

There has to be a line drawn about where we step in. I hope this helps explain.
June 1, 2006 6:13:21 PM

With all due respect I think you've missed the point. We can't ignore the bickering. There's too much of it. How many yah-boo! AMD v Conroe posts do you expect me to wade through before I actually find some real information which might help me decide what to buy?

If you don't have an adequate moderator team one simple solution would be to get organised and create one.

Why are you talking about off topic threads? I specifically complained about aggressively petulant posts from people whose motivation is not to have an intelligent discussion but to win an argument regardless of the rights and wrongs of it. That is the most poisonous, damaging thing that can possibly happen on a forum where people are looking for unbiased advice from real-world users. OK you can't deal with everything instantly; I appreciate that. But I don't see you dealing with it at all.
June 1, 2006 6:41:09 PM

Actually, you can ignore the bickering. Very easily. If people really are sad enough to get so worked up over the merits of AMD vs Intel, then they really need to get a life outside this place. If that's what floats their boat, fine. As long as it doesn't violate the ToS, then they can continue. There's nothing in there to stop them.

If you're looking for information on what to buy, consult the stickies at the top of the boards. Most have very helpful information. Or maybe read the articles on Toms Hardware.

If people having a pop at each other over the merits of AM2 vs LGA775 or whatever offends, your sensibilities, then I'm sorry. I'm not going to stop people having a debate over, esentially, their strong feelings on their preferred product. If someone tells someone to "fuck off you twat" in the CPU forum, then yes, I will. If someone posts porn, or seriously threatens another member, then yes, I will deal with it. That is what is universally decreed as the issues that can and do arise on here. Everyone knows they are wrong and everyone knows that the perpetrator should be dealt with, and they always, always are.
June 1, 2006 7:04:08 PM

Thanks for clearing that up. Now I know what to look for.
June 1, 2006 7:30:21 PM

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If people really are sad enough to get so worked up over the merits of AMD vs Intel, then they really need to get a life outside this place.

With your permission Rob, I think I found a new sig. :) 

Mike.

PS: Approval assumed - pls pm me if I should remove it - I don't get notified otherwise.
June 1, 2006 7:38:12 PM

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If people really are sad enough to get so worked up over the merits of AMD vs Intel, then they really need to get a life outside this place. If that's what floats their boat, fine. As long as it doesn't violate the ToS, then they can continue. There's nothing in there to stop them.

If you're looking for information on what to buy, consult the stickies at the top of the boards. Most have very helpful information. Or maybe read the articles on Toms Hardware.

What's your site content? OK in part it's the articles. It's also the forum discussion. I would say that's the most important part of your content. People can benefit from other people's real-world experience of various products or from advice interpreting technical data in the context of a particular need.

"Strong feelings" about engineering parts are not content. That's of zero interest to anyone except possibly a psychologist.

Anyway thanks for your reply. If I didn't find your site as useful as it is I wouldn't have bothered to complain. Kind of a back-handed compliment but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
June 1, 2006 11:45:05 PM

You've got 37 posts.... Do some searches & learn what goes on.... Rob has explained it to you, but you aren't seeing it....

It's not your ball park or your ball!!!!!!
June 2, 2006 12:31:25 AM

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You've got 37 posts....!

That's a poor response to criticism. How many posts until I'm entitled to an opinion? Kind of a ridiculous idea really isn't it?

I don't really care whose ball park it is. I'd just like to see less balls. If it's your policy to be balls-tolerant it's not what I'd prefer but fair enough.

Incidentally who is the site owner?
June 2, 2006 1:13:33 AM

Not everyone fits in here.... Guys like yourself come & go.....Seen it many times....[shrug]

Contact Fredi......
June 2, 2006 1:30:24 AM

That's astonishingly complacent. Who are "guys like me" exactly? If as you say your site isn't "sticky" for new users don't you wonder why?
June 2, 2006 1:52:17 AM

i think youre a little on edge bub. i think what RC is saying is that newbies come an go. Many of them post about 50 times and lose interest. and never post again. If there is any problem and you need to speak to the head guy, Fredi is the one you need to talk too. He can help out with most things and the mods are there for help too.
June 2, 2006 3:31:43 AM

I'd just like to point an interesting fact...
In this thread, in this sole page, I've seen more moderators post than in any other thread... I don't know why, and I'm not trying to say or mean anything, it's just curious... 8O
June 2, 2006 4:16:18 AM

hehok thats cool with me [/not a mod, doesnt care]
June 2, 2006 11:33:33 AM

It depends where you post....

There's forums that we hang out in.... We mod all forums.... So we pop up anywhere across the boards.......
June 2, 2006 11:41:08 AM

It's fine with me Mike, carry on!
June 2, 2006 11:46:48 AM

A lot of the time, when we moderate, it won't be seen. A post, or even an entire thread(s) will disappear. Sometimes a comment will be made in a thread, if it has to be locked, but the majority of times, it just happens, and the perpetrator is spoken to/dealt with/executed via PM.

We do post in other forums, mainly down here in Community, which is where most hung out before getting roped into moderating. We're still regular members of the place too, not just mods, and we do like to take the piss and insult people. Actually, that might be just me.... 8O
June 2, 2006 11:51:59 AM

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Actually, that might be just me....

No, I'm not above it..... :twisted:
June 2, 2006 12:03:01 PM

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We're still regular members of the place too, not just mods, and we do like to take the piss and insult people. Actually, that might be just me.... 8O


8O 8O 8O
Really? Well, that is surprising. I thought that mods were supposed to be like, ummm, "gods" in a certain way, of course, within the forum.
Like you said, supposed to be there, but not to be seen. And supposed to give an example for all the others members of the community.
If you like to get in the "mess" :wink: , well, that's fine. I can't tell you what to do. It's your life! :D 
...
I have a little question! I hope you can answer: Who decides whose are the mods? I mean, do you change the mods from time to time?
I don't know, maybe one of you had to quit, eventually, and you had to get someone to replace him/her. Again, I don't know, its just speculation. 8)
June 2, 2006 12:26:49 PM

Basically, we all hang out in the Other, which is pretty much a no holds barred environment. All of have been members for a few years, and have a laugh and a joke (at dvdpiddy's expense usually) in there. That's where we arse about. Up above, in Hardware etc, you'll either see us take moderator actions, or contribute (occassionaly) to threads. But when we want to let off steam, or catch up with stuff, it's in the Other.

The mods were decided, initially, by Fredi when this place was in Beta testing. A couple were appointed, then the group grew when it was realised that some EU based mods were needed, to account for the time difference. Fredi decided the original duo, then recommendations were made about the rest of us and here we are. I'm sure if someone jacked it in, or we needed another, then Fredi would consult the existing mods to see who we felt was the best person for the job. Fredi trusts our judgement.

You have to be able to take a load of shit being a mod, which is why we've all been around a fair bit, have seen it all and done it all. Broad shoulders are essential!
June 2, 2006 9:46:05 PM

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the perpetrator is spoken to/dealt with/executed via PM.


lol i know how to read but i read it in the wrong context on purpose :twisted: :twisted:
June 2, 2006 11:39:01 PM

For what it's worth I think the mods do a pretty good job.

The quicker you realize there are certain inevitabilities, the easier you’re life will be.

First, there will always be fanboys in life. People that will passionately argue for something, on this site it’s CPUs, and attack the other side, facts be damn. They’re like flies at a picnic, you have to learn to live with them.

Second, there will always be people who try to pick fights, be insulting, ignorant, and in general rude. More flies.

Third, there is a Complaint Button, use it.

Finally and most importantly, learn to just Say No. Once you find a thread irritating, no longer informative, interesting, or amusing, stop reading the damn the thing.
June 3, 2006 2:18:25 AM

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For what it's worth I think the mods do a pretty good job.

The quicker you realize there are certain inevitabilities, the easier you’re life will be.

First, there will always be fanboys in life. People that will passionately argue for something, on this site it’s CPUs, and attack the other side, facts be damn. They’re like flies at a picnic, you have to learn to live with them.

Second, there will always be people who try to pick fights, be insulting, ignorant, and in general rude. More flies.

Finally and most importantly, learn to just Say No. Once you find a thread irritating, no longer informative, interesting, or amusing, stop reading the damn the thing.


Hallelujah brother "g" ... now say that part about the mods again ... :D 
June 3, 2006 1:08:24 PM

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For what it's worth I think the mods do a pretty good job.

The quicker you realize there are certain inevitabilities, the easier you’re life will be.

First, there will always be fanboys in life. People that will passionately argue for something, on this site it’s CPUs, and attack the other side, facts be damn. They’re like flies at a picnic, you have to learn to live with them.

Second, there will always be people who try to pick fights, be insulting, ignorant, and in general rude. More flies.

Finally and most importantly, learn to just Say No. Once you find a thread irritating, no longer informative, interesting, or amusing, stop reading the damn the thing.


I cannot say often enough how great the mods on this site are. (You have my e mail address and can send the coupons for free been to me at this address) :p 

Hallelujah brother "g" ... now say that part about the mods again ... :D 
June 12, 2006 5:54:03 AM

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Thanks to a vote of the good people of this forum. Actionmans sock puppets, slinky's and keyboard antics have been put to an end. Its about time the member got together to rid the forum of the immature, resource wasting morons. Thanks again everyone.


Action_Man is a good mate of mine. Whatever perceived intrusion you feel have been caused by him towards your sensibilities, I can assure you, they're ill-conceived.

I know him personally, I've spoken to him on the blower; he's a good young bloke.

I'm only sorry I got to this thread so late.
June 12, 2006 6:09:37 AM

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I don't know about other people but I come here to find out about hardware so I can make good buying decisions. Listening to bickering, stupid kids is an incredible turn off. I wish the moderators would do something a bit more effective than fiddling around with capital letters. That's not the problem. The problem is good faith - or rather lack of it. It's not difficult to discern. People looking for a bunfight should get a warning then they should get banned. If no-one ever smacks their bottoms (1) they'll never learn how to behave (2) other users will get fed up wading through the noise posts and go elsewhere.


Argh, thats crap mate.

I can only talk for the 'other' 'other' posting that goes on and your sentiments in this regard simply dont apply there.

Sure, some twirps up in the graphics and cpu forums need their heads pulled in but the mods dont need to do it; we focking need to. Just lay the smack down on them and piss em off. Nobody's here to hold anybody's hands.

You seem half-intelligent so I'm absolutely positive you could manipulate some teen's piss-ant comments and get them to self-analyse their actions - thus improving your user experience.
August 14, 2006 8:33:57 AM

The irony.
September 1, 2006 5:10:16 AM

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Thanks to a vote of the good people of this forum. Actionmans sock puppets, slinky's and keyboard antics have been put to an end. Its about time the member got together to rid the forum of the immature, resource wasting morons. Thanks again everyone.



This coming from the MadModMike Puppet 'MrsD'????????????????????
September 1, 2006 7:33:01 AM

I dunno.....

[sarcasm] I think these mods are just a bunch of....um...THUGS!!! Yes, that's it! THUGS! Yes, yes. They sit around the other talking about Wingding's amazing body parts (for which I will NOT name the parts referred to...), and....um....talking about beer....yes...beer.

And you expect these guys to actually work? You expect them to mod this place? Sheesh! [/sarcasm]

I took a sabbatical for the last year or so (I had to slow down a bit due to my medical conditions...Cancer SUCKS!!!), and upon returning here, I see the same pattern of people here, with the same types of issues. Years ago, it may have been Spitfire trying to be the AMD talker or SlvrPheonix on the Intel side, whereas now it is 9-inch. It is still the same. Just with different people.

It takes a bit of time to understand that these message boards here at Tom's are pretty much the best place on the internet to ask about computing. I would even be willing to say that there is more knowledge here at Tom's than anywhere else, to be offered to someone asking a question.

The bad side of this is that with all this, there is a price. You are going to have all sorts of people posting here, and as we all know, you can't please everyone all the time. These mods are doing their best, given they are volunteers and do this in their spare time.

Consider this. I estimate that roughly between 1,000 to 5,000 posts are posted on Tom's in a given day. With 5 mods, thats roughly between 200 to 1,000 posts that they EACH have to monitor. Where would they have ANY free time, if they had to constantly monitor these? It cannot be expected of them to do this. Therefore, just as they are doing now, they are keeping the peace and a balance. It's been working for years now. Why shouldn't it work in the future?

Personally, I think the mods here are doing a great job. For me, it's almost like i never left. Almost....

Thanx Mods! :D  :D  :D 
September 1, 2006 8:00:10 AM

Thank you! It's nice to be appreciated. :D 
September 1, 2006 5:36:11 PM

I must say the title of this thread came as a bit of a shock. I'm glad it was just BS.

I still consider myself a noob on these forums and I have to admit that when I was first introduced to AM's errr....personality I took it the wrong way.

I thought he was an arse. Guess what? He is, but we wouldn't want him any other way. I evened PMd a senior member of the forum inquiring about his...state of mind more or less. The senior member in question asked me to point out any of AM's posts that were offensive. I in turn spent some time sifting through his past posts. What I learned is that AM calls people out on their BS and doesn't put up with their crap. If AM comes into a thread and starts calling posters out on their stuff, then chances are their BS needed to be set straight. AM's posts are a good way to determine whether or not somone's post is legit or BS. When the post is legit, he often contributes to it with solid info, unlike some posters around here (me included.)

So as you can see he can be quite helpful at filtering crap from useful information.

OMG, Action_Man's a crap filter!!!!! :lol: 

Sorry dude, don't take that the wrong way.

And yes, he'll always be Steve Austin. The happy kitty brought back a few suppressed thoughts.[/shudders]
September 1, 2006 8:50:44 PM

topic poster got pwned
September 1, 2006 9:06:41 PM

action man is keeping it real.....while BM and 9 inch are keeping it real dumb
September 1, 2006 9:33:15 PM

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And as you've hopefully already noticed, he'll always have my full support.

PLLEEEAZE....your support means nothing to me. :lol: 
September 2, 2006 9:01:23 AM

Its funny because its true.
September 2, 2006 9:04:04 AM

Holy crap how many dead 9-inch threads are in this section. Its like a graveyard of some sort.
September 2, 2006 10:21:32 PM

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He really taunted the mods in those threads as his apparent lack of knowledge of CPUs stretches over into networking--- I guess he does not understand that 130 computers in a building can all share the same IP through the server to the outside world....


Which makes me think hes some highschool noob.
September 4, 2006 12:46:59 AM

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Holy crap how many dead 9-inch threads are in this section. Its like a graveyard of some sort.


This is where some of the ones I thought were deleted ended up --- I had to readjust my thread locked count :)  ....

I think poor 9-inch went off the deep end, he puppeted an account called amd_noob and posted the 'Let's help 9-inch' thread which quickly locked up, then the 'Let's help 9-inch (part 2)' thread which promptly locked up, and a part 3 appeared but was then deleted.

He really taunted the mods in those threads as his apparent lack of knowledge of CPUs stretches over into networking--- I guess he does not understand that 130 computers in a building can all share the same IP through the server to the outside world....

A little comical, certainly annoying, and quite pathetically sad if you ask me :)  ....

And now the locked threads in here have been deleted. Hmmmm
September 4, 2006 1:10:07 AM

Locked threads cannot be "added to" (no new posts) - the moderators have a quarantine area (we call it area 51) that is available only to us. We move dead, spam, locked, or inappropriate, etc. threads there - it's, principally, so other people don't lose their precious post counts (deletes, delete from post counts). 9-inch's threads were not deleted, but those locked threads are not "visable" now.

Yeah, sometimes we "clean up" a cluttered forum.

So turpit, if you want to complain or debate this - PM me. Hmmmm
September 4, 2006 3:15:56 AM

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Locked threads cannot be "added to" (no new posts) - the moderators have a quarantine area (we call it area 51) that is available only to us. We move dead, spam, locked, or inappropriate, etc. threads there - it's, principally, so other people don't lose their precious post counts (deletes, delete from post counts). 9-inch's threads were not deleted, but those locked threads are not "visable" now.

Yeah, sometimes we "clean up" a cluttered forum.

So turpit, if you want to complain or debate this - PM me. Hmmmm


Not complaining, just noting. Although, it will make it hard for Jack to carry on an accurate count.

Thank you for the information as well. Area 51. Well that just waves a red flag. You guys are keeping the good stuff for yourselves. I cant help but wonder how much good old fashioned belly laughers are tucked away in there.
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