New Motherboard Cannot Find IDE Drives

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Hello,

I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a while)
using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD it
recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems OK
because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.

Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the BIOS.
There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different combinations
when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE cable,
trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing the
jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing the
drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work. I
tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it just
gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.

Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can test
this to make sure I'm not the problem?

Thanks for the help.


p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to post
here.
 
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Hi,

It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the DVD
on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual? Maybe
there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
because it has only one IDE channel.

--
Jan Alter
bearpuf@verizon.net
or
jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello,
>
> I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
> while)
> using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD it
> recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems OK
> because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
>
> Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the BIOS.
> There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different combinations
> when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
> cable,
> trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
> the
> jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing the
> drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work. I
> tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it just
> gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
>
> Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can test
> this to make sure I'm not the problem?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
>
> p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
> post
> here.
>
>
 

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Jan,

I've tried the CS as well but nothing seems to work.

I just tried
"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
> Hi,
>
> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
> select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the
DVD
> on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
Maybe
> there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
> because it has only one IDE channel.
>
> --
> Jan Alter
> bearpuf@verizon.net
> or
> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
> > while)
> > using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD it
> > recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems
OK
> > because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
> >
> > Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the BIOS.
> > There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
combinations
> > when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
> > cable,
> > trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
> > the
> > jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing the
> > drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work. I
> > tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
just
> > gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
> >
> > Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
test
> > this to make sure I'm not the problem?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> >
> > p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
> > post
> > here.
> >
> >
>
>
 

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Hi Jan,

I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA mode and
that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered). There
still was no IDE recognition.

I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD and
DVD on cable select and that found nothing.

The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at about
86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or maybe
symptomatic of something else?

Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.


"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
> Hi,
>
> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
> select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the
DVD
> on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
Maybe
> there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
> because it has only one IDE channel.
>
> --
> Jan Alter
> bearpuf@verizon.net
> or
> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
> > while)
> > using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD it
> > recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems
OK
> > because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
> >
> > Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the BIOS.
> > There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
combinations
> > when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
> > cable,
> > trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
> > the
> > jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing the
> > drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work. I
> > tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
just
> > gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
> >
> > Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
test
> > this to make sure I'm not the problem?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> >
> > p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
> > post
> > here.
> >
> >
>
>
 
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You need to put your optical drives on the single IDE channel & then any
other ide HD's on what you will see as SCSI channels.
You need to set bios to boot from scsi & set your raid to JBOD.
I'm NOT going into details but giving you basic tools to look at.
I'm not even familiar with your board.
Don't even bother expecting the bootup screen to detect & show your
HD's.............. it won't.



"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:11d3nfmr96kc676@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi Jan,
>
> I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA mode
> and
> that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered).
> There
> still was no IDE recognition.
>
> I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD
> and
> DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
>
> The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at about
> 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or
> maybe
> symptomatic of something else?
>
> Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
>
>
> "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
>> Hi,
>>
>> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
>> select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the
> DVD
>> on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
> Maybe
>> there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
>> because it has only one IDE channel.
>>
>> --
>> Jan Alter
>> bearpuf@verizon.net
>> or
>> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
>> > while)
>> > using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD
>> > it
>> > recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems
> OK
>> > because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
>> >
>> > Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the
>> > BIOS.
>> > There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
> combinations
>> > when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
>> > cable,
>> > trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
>> > the
>> > jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing
>> > the
>> > drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work.
>> > I
>> > tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
> just
>> > gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
>> >
>> > Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
> test
>> > this to make sure I'm not the problem?
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help.
>> >
>> >
>> > p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
>> > post
>> > here.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 

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Bruce,

Thanks for the info but what is JBOD?

I don't see any settings for SCSI in my BIOS.

I really do appreciate the response to my posting but could you be a little
clearer in your response. I don't have a RAID set up (at least I don't think
I do).

Thank you for the information.


"BruceM" <bruce@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42d1e210$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> You need to put your optical drives on the single IDE channel & then any
> other ide HD's on what you will see as SCSI channels.
> You need to set bios to boot from scsi & set your raid to JBOD.
> I'm NOT going into details but giving you basic tools to look at.
> I'm not even familiar with your board.
> Don't even bother expecting the bootup screen to detect & show your
> HD's.............. it won't.
>
>
>
> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:11d3nfmr96kc676@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA mode
> > and
> > that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered).
> > There
> > still was no IDE recognition.
> >
> > I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD
> > and
> > DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
> >
> > The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at
about
> > 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or
> > maybe
> > symptomatic of something else?
> >
> > Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
> >
> >
> > "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried
cable
> >> select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and
the
> > DVD
> >> on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
> > Maybe
> >> there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this
board
> >> because it has only one IDE channel.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jan Alter
> >> bearpuf@verizon.net
> >> or
> >> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
> >> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
> >> > while)
> >> > using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD
> >> > it
> >> > recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That
seems
> > OK
> >> > because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
> >> >
> >> > Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the
> >> > BIOS.
> >> > There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
> > combinations
> >> > when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
> >> > cable,
> >> > trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried
changing
> >> > the
> >> > jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing
> >> > the
> >> > drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to
work.
> >> > I
> >> > tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
> > just
> >> > gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
> >> >
> >> > Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
> > test
> >> > this to make sure I'm not the problem?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the help.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant
to
> >> > post
> >> > here.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
G

Guest

Guest
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I'm sorry but unless I download & fully research your particular board then
I'm only going to give you broad help.
JBOD is a "cool" search in google.
When you get the choice of raid to setup with your scsi drive or drives
(Yes, I know they aren't but you need to pretend or you'll get nowhere),
choose BSOD (bunch of ordinary disks)& that will get you something similar
to your old IDE arrangement.
You then need to go into boot order, select SCSI & then select which drive.
The biggest hurdle you need to overcome is to go to another comp first & get
that scsi driver onto a floppy ready for when you install your OS. Hit F6
when asked & then point to your floppy.
Somewhere along the line you get the choice to hit some keys to setup your
array. DO it & setup as JBOD.
You starting to get the picture?
Forget all previous preachings from the past.......... think diff & you'll
succeed.



"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:11d3rgi9o9mu638@corp.supernews.com...
> Bruce,
>
> Thanks for the info but what is JBOD?
>
> I don't see any settings for SCSI in my BIOS.
>
> I really do appreciate the response to my posting but could you be a
> little
> clearer in your response. I don't have a RAID set up (at least I don't
> think
> I do).
>
> Thank you for the information.
>
>
> "BruceM" <bruce@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42d1e210$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>> You need to put your optical drives on the single IDE channel & then any
>> other ide HD's on what you will see as SCSI channels.
>> You need to set bios to boot from scsi & set your raid to JBOD.
>> I'm NOT going into details but giving you basic tools to look at.
>> I'm not even familiar with your board.
>> Don't even bother expecting the bootup screen to detect & show your
>> HD's.............. it won't.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:11d3nfmr96kc676@corp.supernews.com...
>> > Hi Jan,
>> >
>> > I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA
>> > mode
>> > and
>> > that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered).
>> > There
>> > still was no IDE recognition.
>> >
>> > I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a
>> > HD
>> > and
>> > DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
>> >
>> > The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at
> about
>> > 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or
>> > maybe
>> > symptomatic of something else?
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried
> cable
>> >> select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and
> the
>> > DVD
>> >> on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
>> > Maybe
>> >> there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this
> board
>> >> because it has only one IDE channel.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jan Alter
>> >> bearpuf@verizon.net
>> >> or
>> >> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>> >> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
>> >> > while)
>> >> > using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital
>> >> > HD
>> >> > it
>> >> > recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That
> seems
>> > OK
>> >> > because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that
>> >> > drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the
>> >> > BIOS.
>> >> > There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
>> > combinations
>> >> > when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the
>> >> > IDE
>> >> > cable,
>> >> > trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried
> changing
>> >> > the
>> >> > jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing
>> >> > the
>> >> > drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to
> work.
>> >> > I
>> >> > tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but
>> >> > it
>> > just
>> >> > gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
>> > test
>> >> > this to make sure I'm not the problem?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the help.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant
> to
>> >> > post
>> >> > here.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
G

Guest

Guest
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Gummy wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA mode and
> that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered). There
> still was no IDE recognition.
>
> I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD and
> DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
>
> The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at about
> 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or maybe
> symptomatic of something else?

That's FAR too hot. There's something wrong with the contact between the
heat sink and the CPU die. Fix this ASAP. Remove the heat sink and fan
unit, clean off the thermal compound, reapply a small amount of thermal
compound, reattach the heatsink and fan unit. Descriptions of how to do
this (in great detail) can be had by searching the google archives of
this group.

>
> Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
>
>
> "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
>>select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the
>
> DVD
>
>>on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
>
> Maybe
>
>>there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
>>because it has only one IDE channel.
>>
>>--
>>Jan Alter
>>bearpuf@verizon.net
>>or
>>jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>>"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
>>>while)
>>>using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD it
>>>recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems
>
> OK
>
>>>because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
>>>
>>>Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the BIOS.
>>>There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
>
> combinations
>
>>>when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
>>>cable,
>>>trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
>>>the
>>>jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing the
>>>drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work. I
>>>tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
>
> just
>
>>>gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
>>>
>>>Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
>
> test
>
>>>this to make sure I'm not the problem?
>>>
>>>Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>>
>>>p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
>>>post
>>>here.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
G

Guest

Guest
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Hi again,

>I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD
>and
>DVD on cable select and that found nothing.

From what you're saying the cpu is running way too hot. It should not go
over 65C for safety sake. Make this your first priority and recheck its
seating arrangement under the HSF (heat sink fan).

Now I'm realizing from what you say in later posts that you may have a
SATA drive. Is this right? In order to have XP recognize any SATA drive for
installation of the OS you will need to install the SATA controller drivers
from a floppy drive for installation of XP. Very early into the installation
XP asks you to push the F6 key and have the drivers ready for the floppy
drive. Before beginning the installation go into the bios and set the boot
sequence to start from SCSI rather than HDD-0 as your second boot device.
Your first boot device should still be the CD-ROM.
If you are installing XP on the PATA drive and then adding a SATA drive
later I don't have enough experience to tell you if XP would detect the SATA
drive and then ask for the SATA controller drivers after XP has been
installed.
Once you've got the cpu heat situation under control I still think you
should be able to have the both the hard drive and optical drive hooked up
on the same cable, as long as the optical drive is running correctly. If it
continues to not recognize the hdd when you've got both drives connected
then I think you may have a bad board.



--
Jan Alter
bearpuf@verizon.net
or
jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:42d22c5a$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Gummy wrote:
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA mode
>> and
>> that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered).
>> There
>> still was no IDE recognition.
>>
>> I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD
>> and
>> DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
>>
>> The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at
>> about
>> 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or
>> maybe
>> symptomatic of something else?
>
> That's FAR too hot. There's something wrong with the contact between the
> heat sink and the CPU die. Fix this ASAP. Remove the heat sink and fan
> unit, clean off the thermal compound, reapply a small amount of thermal
> compound, reattach the heatsink and fan unit. Descriptions of how to do
> this (in great detail) can be had by searching the google archives of this
> group.
>
>>
>> Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
>>
>>
>> "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
>>>select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the
>>
>> DVD
>>
>>>on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
>>
>> Maybe
>>
>>>there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
>>>because it has only one IDE channel.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jan Alter
>>>bearpuf@verizon.net
>>>or
>>>jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>>>"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
>>>>while)
>>>>using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD it
>>>>recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems
>>
>> OK
>>
>>>>because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
>>>>
>>>>Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the BIOS.
>>>>There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
>>
>> combinations
>>
>>>>when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
>>>>cable,
>>>>trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
>>>>the
>>>>jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing the
>>>>drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work. I
>>>>tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
>>
>> just
>>
>>>>gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
>>>>
>>>>Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
>>
>> test
>>
>>>>this to make sure I'm not the problem?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
>>>>post
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
 

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spodosaurus, Bruce and Jan,

Thanks for the information. I will start banging away again this evening. I
really appreciate all the help.


"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:42d22c5a$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Gummy wrote:
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA mode
and
> > that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered).
There
> > still was no IDE recognition.
> >
> > I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a HD
and
> > DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
> >
> > The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at
about
> > 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or
maybe
> > symptomatic of something else?
>
> That's FAR too hot. There's something wrong with the contact between the
> heat sink and the CPU die. Fix this ASAP. Remove the heat sink and fan
> unit, clean off the thermal compound, reapply a small amount of thermal
> compound, reattach the heatsink and fan unit. Descriptions of how to do
> this (in great detail) can be had by searching the google archives of
> this group.
>
> >
> > Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
> >
> >
> > "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried cable
> >>select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and the
> >
> > DVD
> >
> >>on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
> >
> > Maybe
> >
> >>there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this board
> >>because it has only one IDE channel.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jan Alter
> >>bearpuf@verizon.net
> >>or
> >>jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
> >>"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
> >>>while)
> >>>using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital HD
it
> >>>recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That seems
> >
> > OK
> >
> >>>because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that drive.
> >>>
> >>>Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the
BIOS.
> >>>There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
> >
> > combinations
> >
> >>>when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the IDE
> >>>cable,
> >>>trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried changing
> >>>the
> >>>jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing
the
> >>>drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to work.
I
> >>>tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but it
> >
> > just
> >
> >>>gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
> >>>
> >>>Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
> >
> > test
> >
> >>>this to make sure I'm not the problem?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for the help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant to
> >>>post
> >>>here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
 
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Guess I'll take a look at your particular board.



"Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:11d3rgi9o9mu638@corp.supernews.com...
> Bruce,
>
> Thanks for the info but what is JBOD?
>
> I don't see any settings for SCSI in my BIOS.
>
> I really do appreciate the response to my posting but could you be a
> little
> clearer in your response. I don't have a RAID set up (at least I don't
> think
> I do).
>
> Thank you for the information.
>
>
> "BruceM" <bruce@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42d1e210$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>> You need to put your optical drives on the single IDE channel & then any
>> other ide HD's on what you will see as SCSI channels.
>> You need to set bios to boot from scsi & set your raid to JBOD.
>> I'm NOT going into details but giving you basic tools to look at.
>> I'm not even familiar with your board.
>> Don't even bother expecting the bootup screen to detect & show your
>> HD's.............. it won't.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:11d3nfmr96kc676@corp.supernews.com...
>> > Hi Jan,
>> >
>> > I first tried changing the BIOS into "S-ATA & P-ATA" mode from SATA
>> > mode
>> > and
>> > that moved the SATA drive to the primary spot (not that it mattered).
>> > There
>> > still was no IDE recognition.
>> >
>> > I then tried removing the SATA drive, placing it in P-ATA mode with a
>> > HD
>> > and
>> > DVD on cable select and that found nothing.
>> >
>> > The other thing I noticed was that the CPU temperature is running at
> about
>> > 86C, which I think is way too high. Could that be having an effect or
>> > maybe
>> > symptomatic of something else?
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for the quick response and great answers.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:aRkAe.2142$Om4.315@trndny07...
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> It seems that you're doing everything correctly. Have you tried
> cable
>> >> select? Jumper the both drives for CS and put the hdd on the end and
> the
>> > DVD
>> >> on the center connector. As a last resort have you checked the manual?
>> > Maybe
>> >> there is some esoteric setting that has to be adhered to with this
> board
>> >> because it has only one IDE channel.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jan Alter
>> >> bearpuf@verizon.net
>> >> or
>> >> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>> >> "Gummy" <gumbatman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:11d3kle140rt96f@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am building a new machine (something I've done before but not in a
>> >> > while)
>> >> > using an ASUS P5GPL motherboard. When I put my new Western Digital
>> >> > HD
>> >> > it
>> >> > recognizes it, but thinks it is the third primary IDE drive. That
> seems
>> > OK
>> >> > because I was able to format it and it boots correctly to that
>> >> > drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Then I installed my DVD burner (Sony) and it is never found by the
>> >> > BIOS.
>> >> > There is only one IDE controller so I've tried many different
>> > combinations
>> >> > when the ones that should work didn't. This included changing the
>> >> > IDE
>> >> > cable,
>> >> > trying a CD burner and/or a regular IDE hard drive. I've tried
> changing
>> >> > the
>> >> > jumpers to make the burner (or HD) the slave, the master and placing
>> >> > the
>> >> > drives on different places on the IDE cable but nothing seems to
> work.
>> >> > I
>> >> > tried forcing the BIOS to tell it there was a CDROM on the IDE but
>> >> > it
>> > just
>> >> > gave me the error that there was no ATAPI compatible drive.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there something wrong with my motherboard? Is there any way I can
>> > test
>> >> > this to make sure I'm not the problem?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the help.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > p.s. Sorry for the crosspost, I was reading the other one but meant
> to
>> >> > post
>> >> > here.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>