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November 6, 2005 11:33:33 PM

Hi, I am new to building and new to these boards, so any adivce would be appreciated.

AMD Athlon 64 3200 $210.00
Asus K8V Deluxe VIA Socket $110.99
Hitachi Deskstar 7k250GB Hard Drive $145.00
ATI Radeon 9800 $224.00
Kingston 1024MB Dual Channel $164.99
Powmax CP769PL ATX-Black $40.99
Artec DHM-G48 $27.99
Samsung SyncMaster 793DF $102.75

These prices are mostly average of where I have looked. Any suggestions, that keep my budget intact, are welcomed.

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November 7, 2005 12:01:03 AM

AMD Athlon 64 3200 $210.00
Retarded expensive....newegg.com carries this for $154

Asus K8V Deluxe VIA Socket $110.99
Id go with a Nforce 4 mobo such as the Epox EP-9NPA+ or the DFI lanparty/infinity for about the same price with more features

Hitachi Deskstar 7k250GB Hard Drive $145.00
once again very expensive....a western digital 250gb sata2 harddrive can be had for around 100 bucks

ATI Radeon 9800 $224.00
Old ass video card and way too expensive....go with the Ati X800XL or pro for the same price range

Kingston 1024MB Dual Channel $164.99
Be more specific....The hyperx is good ram

Powmax CP769PL ATX-Black $40.99
It is a case, I guess, but ditch the crappy power supply for an Enermax or Antec 500+ watter

Artec DHM-G48 $27.99

Samsung SyncMaster 793DF $102.75 Not a bad monitor I have had the old 19" 955DF for about 6 yrs and it has done me well
November 7, 2005 9:46:27 AM

Dude, you do not want a DEATHSTAR...
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November 7, 2005 2:04:28 PM

Maybe Canadian I can't remember, thanks for the advice I'll compose a new list later today.
November 7, 2005 6:45:50 PM

First get a decent PSU, that case looks like it'll come with a Powmax. That's about the cheapest made PSU around. Could kill your rig.

If you're a gamer I'll echo the remarks about a better gfx card. But why AGP?. Since they're being phased-out go with a mobo offering PCIe slots instead of AGP.

I wouldn't buy an AGP mobo these days.

EDIT: I now see that's a skt 754 rig. While nothing wrong with that, if you can go skt939 and a PCIe mobo for about the same price you'll be better off IMHO
November 8, 2005 12:36:46 AM

AMD Athlon 64 3200 $210.00
Retarded expensive....newegg.com carries this for $154

Asus K8V Deluxe VIA Socket $110.99
Id go with a Nforce 4 mobo such as the Epox EP-9NPA+ or the DFI lanparty/infinity for about the same price with more features

Hitachi Deskstar 7k250GB Hard Drive $145.00
once again very expensive....a western digital 250gb sata2 harddrive can be had for around 100 bucks

ATI Radeon 9800 $224.00
Old *** video card and way too expensive....go with the Ati X800XL or pro for the same price range

Kingston 1024MB Dual Channel $164.99
Be more specific....The hyperx is good ram

Powmax CP769PL ATX-Black $40.99
It is a case, I guess, but ditch the crappy power supply for an Enermax or Antec 500+ watter

Artec DHM-G48 $27.99

Samsung SyncMaster 793DF $102.75 Not a bad monitor I have had the old 19" 955DF for about 6 yrs and it has done me well


Here's the new one:

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail $201.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $105.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $122.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

ATI Radeon X800XL 100-435513 Video Card - Retail $279.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Kingston ValueRAM 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM System Memory - Retail $172.99
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

NEC Display Solutions AS70M White 17" CRT Monitor D-Sub - Retail $100.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Artec DHM-G48 $27.99

XG X-case CA-X-B Blue Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail $99.99
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


Comes to around $1132.00. If newegg.com is US pricing, which I highly suspect, then this is a little steep, is it not? If anyone can suggest anymore compatibility issues, or money savers, please speak up as you've all been a great help so far.
November 8, 2005 3:54:27 PM

You are getting there....
Couple comments though:

1) Case is ok but if I were you I would go with a case that doesnt come with a power supply or replace the power supply it comes with unless it is nice to begin with.....That case you selected still has a crappy power supply. If there is one aspect you dont to overlook it is the power supply. Sure it is a 500w power supply but the +12v rail amperage sucks.....Id try to find a 500+ watt psu with at least 30A total to the +12v rail such as this one:

Case Example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133142

A dual +12V power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103512

or a cheaper one such as this one:

Single Rail power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817159033

Or this one:
Nice Modular (cables seperate from power supply_
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817709004

2)Dont forget for the memory you want to go with 2 sticks of ram and not one so that you can take advantage of the dual ddr capabilities....so if you want 1 gig go with 2 512 sticks of ram. I personally think for performance/price I would opt for a different ram than you chose. I would lean toward this ram so you can get the TCCD chips, the lowest cas latency timings:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231035




Besides this everything else looks solid.
November 8, 2005 7:22:20 PM

yea deff go with newegg on purchase. Customer Service is just Incredible.
November 8, 2005 10:52:25 PM

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail $201.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $105.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $122.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

ATI Radeon X800XL 100-435513 Video Card - Retail $279.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

NEC Display Solutions AS70M White 17" CRT Monitor D-Sub - Retail $100.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Artec DHM-G48 $27.99

Thermaltake SViking VA4000BWS Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail $75.00
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

ENERMAX Whisper II EG565P-VE FMA(24P) 535W Power Supply - Retail $88.99
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

G.SKILL Extreme Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM System Memory - Retail $151.82


This comes out to around $1321.00. This is quite expensive for me, any suggestions on how I could lower this cost to maybe around $1000.00 without sacrificing too much performance? Also, are there any discounts I get from newegg.com for ordering a certain amount?
November 9, 2005 4:27:25 AM

Well, you could go for value ram; that should knock off $50 or so, but would make overclocking harder. Since the x800 xl doesn't have especially high power requirements, you might consider getting the Coolermaster Centurion 5 case w/psu for $75; its not the best on the market, but mine works well enough. You might also consider swapping the graphics card for a less expensive x800gt or gto; the performance isn't that much less...but the savings isn't all that impressive. The Nvidia 6600gt goes for +/- $150 these days, and is pretty decent.
November 9, 2005 11:57:47 AM

I hear ya dude....here are some cost savings you can do

1) Memory save 50 bucks..still great memory just based on the winbond chips instead of the tccd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231012

2) Case you can always get a cheaper case but just keep the good power supply....you could prob knock off 50 bucks or so by doing this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811156041

3) Video Card....you could save about 100 bucks on the video card by going with the X800GTO and they are very good cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142052

This will give you 200 bucks off of your price.....I dont know if I would cut down much more
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