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I suppose you will want it to actually take off and land too :)

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message news:XuTUd.797$L17.678@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
> a..
> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
> a.. 8 MB video card
>
>
>
> Microsoft says it is....
> http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/flightsimulator.aspx#sysreqs
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> Dallas
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:57:11 GMT, Dallas wrote:

> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
> a..
> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
> a.. 8 MB video card
>
> Microsoft says it is....
> http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/flightsimulator.aspx#sysreqs

Sure is! All sliders full left, fps locked to 10, 0% AI, 0% Autogen, low
quality cockpit, default models only, no shadows, no reflections, no lens
flare, etc. ;)

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If you put all sliders to the left, you could run it as a kind of disabled
pilots' slide show. I should think it would put any youngster right off
simming, and seriously damage the street cred of the adult concerned :)


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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:57:11 GMT, "Dallas"
<Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> brought the following to our
attention:

>
>a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
>a..
>a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
>a.. 128 MB of system RAM
>a.. 8 MB video card
>
>
>Microsoft says it is... http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/flightsimulator.aspx#sysreqs
>
>Dallas
>

That would not be usable really.. from one who's holding up the low
end of the hardware spectrum with dual-500MHz CPUs, 512MB RAM,
32MB video.. and both FS8 / FS9.

FS9 will not run well on the above.. and putting in a GF3 board slows
it down even more. It can handle FS8 pretty well.. although there must
be some definite tradeoffs. Still FUN.. and you must be clever. :)

Check the following chart.. and scale you system accordingly!!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/flightsim/sim_specs.gif


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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
> a..
> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
> a.. 8 MB video card
>
Needs a better video card, but they aren't too much. You can't max out all
the settings tho. I ran FS9 on a PII 450 with a Diamond Stealth card for
quite awhile. Then I got a ATI 9200 128 MB vid card which improved things a
lot and I got to move many of the sliders to the right.

This past xmas I thought I'd upgrade and bought a used Celeron 700 board.
Big mistake as the Celeron created a slide show. Not even close to the PII
450. I'd given the PII to my wife so I was on the hunt. Current system
(not the best but it works)...

PIII 1.0GHz
Win 2K
256 MB system ram
ATI 9200 128 MB ram vid card

I just fly 'Real Airs' Cessna so maybe that's why it works for me.
 
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wow thats surprising a PII and a Celeron are practically the same chip, just
less L2 cache

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> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
> news:XuTUd.797$L17.678@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
>> a..
>> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
>> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
>> a.. 8 MB video card
>>
> Needs a better video card, but they aren't too much. You can't max out
> all
> the settings tho. I ran FS9 on a PII 450 with a Diamond Stealth card for
> quite awhile. Then I got a ATI 9200 128 MB vid card which improved things
> a
> lot and I got to move many of the sliders to the right.
>
> This past xmas I thought I'd upgrade and bought a used Celeron 700 board.
> Big mistake as the Celeron created a slide show. Not even close to the
> PII
> 450. I'd given the PII to my wife so I was on the hunt. Current system
> (not the best but it works)...
>
> PIII 1.0GHz
> Win 2K
> 256 MB system ram
> ATI 9200 128 MB ram vid card
>
> I just fly 'Real Airs' Cessna so maybe that's why it works for me.
>
>
 
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> This past xmas I thought I'd upgrade and bought a used Celeron 700
> board. Big mistake as the Celeron created a slide show. Not even
> close to the PII 450. I'd given the PII to my wife so I was on the
> hunt. Current system (not the best but it works)...


Sorry, but I don't think it is possible to UPGRADE to a Celeron from
anything :) As for a USED Celeron well....words fail me...

It is a cheapo chip which will hardly run a digital watch. Do not touch a
Celeron for any kind of Flight Sim, would be my advice...

Quilljar
 
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"Bill Leaming
> Sure is! All sliders full left, fps locked to 10, 0% AI, 0% Autogen, low
> quality cockpit, default models only, no shadows, no reflections, no lens
> flare, etc. ;)

Even with the lowest settings, 128 MB of RAM is going to force FS9 to be
going to the disk for virtual memory most of the time.

IMHO That was a foolish decision on Microsoft's part to sell a few more
units. Like Quilly said, you'd probably lose some customers for life. Why
not spell out to the prospective customer up front on the package what he
would have to sacrifice to run it a machine like that?

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It would load....
I'd estimate 1 or 2 frames per second.

"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
> a..
> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
> a.. 8 MB video card
>
>
>
> Microsoft says it is....
> http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/flightsimulator.aspx#sysreqs
>
>
> Dallas
>
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:)

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"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:38ioniF5n2ibnU1@individual.net...
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> If you put all sliders to the left, you could run it as a kind of disabled
> pilots' slide show. I should think it would put any youngster right off
> simming, and seriously damage the street cred of the adult concerned :)
>
>
> Quilljar
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"Bill Leaming" <n4gix@comcast.net> wrote in message news:p810z1q352gw.iqap3bc72y1e$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:57:11 GMT, Dallas wrote:
>
>> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
>> a..
>> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
>> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
>> a.. 8 MB video card
>>
>> Microsoft says it is....
>> http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/flightsimulator.aspx#sysreqs
>
> Sure is! All sliders full left, fps locked to 10, 0% AI, 0% Autogen, low
> quality cockpit, default models only, no shadows, no reflections, no lens
> flare, etc. ;)
>
> Bill

Whew! For a minute there Bill I thought you were going to say 'no aircraft'. :)

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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:03:14 GMT, Dallas wrote:
> IMHO That was a foolish decision on Microsoft's part to sell a few more
> units. Like Quilly said, you'd probably lose some customers for life. Why
> not spell out to the prospective customer up front on the package what he
> would have to sacrifice to run it a machine like that?

You won't get any argument from me on that issue! I learned years ago to
take anyone's "minimum specs" and multiply by at LEAST a factor of three!
;)

Bill
 
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Also Sprach Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com>:
> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
> a..
> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
> a.. 8 MB video card

It COULD run FS2004, in the same sense that a 1972 Pinto COULD race in the
Daytona 500.

Dan


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tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:36:04 GMT, Carl Frisk wrote:

> "Bill Leaming" <n4gix@comcast.net> wrote in message news:p810z1q352gw.iqap3bc72y1e$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:57:11 GMT, Dallas wrote:
>> Sure is! All sliders full left, fps locked to 10, 0% AI, 0% Autogen, low
>> quality cockpit, default models only, no shadows, no reflections, no lens
>> flare, etc. ;)
>
> Whew! For a minute there Bill I thought you were going to say 'no aircraft'. :)

Well, the C172 model in the sim just *barely* qualifies; sort of like dried
mud is a brick... ;)

Bill
 
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"Marshall Banana"
> The trunk of the car looked like a mobile police narcotics lab. We had two
> bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of
highpowered
> blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of
> multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of
> tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two
> dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that stuff, but when you get locked
into
> a serious drug collection the tendency is to push it as far as you can.


Ah... brings back fond memories of my University days... or is that daze?


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:) !!!

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"Bill Leaming" <n4gix@comcast.net> wrote in message news:8j3athlw6lfy.iqmwwkkyorib.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:36:04 GMT, Carl Frisk wrote:
>
>> "Bill Leaming" <n4gix@comcast.net> wrote in message news:p810z1q352gw.iqap3bc72y1e$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 05:57:11 GMT, Dallas wrote:
>>> Sure is! All sliders full left, fps locked to 10, 0% AI, 0% Autogen, low
>>> quality cockpit, default models only, no shadows, no reflections, no lens
>>> flare, etc. ;)
>>
>> Whew! For a minute there Bill I thought you were going to say 'no aircraft'. :)
>
> Well, the C172 model in the sim just *barely* qualifies; sort of like dried
> mud is a brick... ;)
>
> Bill
 
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Under the following link:

http://www.eaglelander3d.com/

Then click on downloads and then find system requirements and I thought this note was very interesting.

***

Eagle Lander 3D (EL3D) is happiest in a machine with a high quality 3D graphics card. In the past PCs were only judged by their cpu/processor speed: a 3.0ghz machine was faster and more powerful then a 1ghz machine. For 3D applications this is not true!
A 600mhz 'old-clunker' PC will fly EL3D much smoother and faster then a 3.0ghz screamer if the 'old-clunker' has a better graphics card. The 3.0ghz PC will will churn out Excel spreadsheets and access databases five times faster then the 600mhz machine - but those are office applications - not 3D applications.

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Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org> wrote:
> Also Sprach Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com>:

>> a.. Opinions please, is this enough computer to run FS9:
>> a..
>> a.. PC with 450 MHz processor
>> a.. 128 MB of system RAM
>> a.. 8 MB video card
>
> It COULD run FS2004, in the same sense that a 1972 Pinto COULD
> race in the Daytona 500.

:eek:)

Somewhere around 1995, I ran a combat warrior first-person shooter
(Multiplayer Battle-Tech) on a very slow PC. Trying to hit your
enemy is very difficult at one or two frames per second. Being
naïve and desperate, I loved it. Since then, the upgrades have
almost kept up with my expectations.

Landing an aircraft is very difficult at only a few frames per
second.
 
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I wouldn't like to be bothered trying. I have a 2.6 Mhz chip, 1Mb RAM and a
128Mb Matrox card and it just about runs satisfactorily with good scenery
and around 20 FPS without heavy weather. I think you would be sooo
disappointed at the results with your setup that you run the risk of being
put off the hobby.
It's really only fun when it's fun...

Cheers,

Quilly
 
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Dear Quilly

1 MB RAM???????
What you got, a Commodore Amiga from early 90's LOL

Cheers

Chris


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>I wouldn't like to be bothered trying. I have a 2.6 Mhz chip, 1Mb RAM and a
>128Mb Matrox card and it just about runs satisfactorily with good scenery
>and around 20 FPS without heavy weather. I think you would be sooo
>disappointed at the results with your setup that you run the risk of being
>put off the hobby.
> It's really only fun when it's fun...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Quilly
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Chris wrote:
> Dear Quilly
>
> 1 MB RAM???????
> What you got, a Commodore Amiga from early 90's LOL
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris

Look, all this technical stuff makes my brain hurt - right?

Cheers,

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"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Chris wrote:
>> Dear Quilly
>>
>> 1 MB RAM???????
>> What you got, a Commodore Amiga from early 90's LOL
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>
> Look, all this technical stuff makes my brain hurt - right?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Quilly

Right - but that's because you're low on memory!
Do your eyes flash like a hard drive LED, and can you here a whirring noise
(hard drive being constantly accessed) when you are thinking? :)

John
 
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A bit like Keanu Reeves in the film Johnny Mnemonic were he transported
important data in
a hard drive in his head like a futuristic DHL!

Chris

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> "Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d407sl$3e5$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>> Chris wrote:
>>> Dear Quilly
>>>
>>> 1 MB RAM???????
>>> What you got, a Commodore Amiga from early 90's LOL
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> Look, all this technical stuff makes my brain hurt - right?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Quilly
>
> Right - but that's because you're low on memory!
> Do your eyes flash like a hard drive LED, and can you here a whirring
> noise (hard drive being constantly accessed) when you are thinking? :)
>
> John
>
 
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