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what res and freq do you gusy run?

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reptilej   01-04-2002 at 08:20:44 PM

i am used to a 17inch monitor with 1024 x 768 and 75hz. but now i got a sony 19 inch monitor and i don't know what i should run at. i feel like i sorta wasted my money if i still run it at 1024, do you gusy run your 19inchers at that?

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Arrow   01-04-2002 at 08:24:15 PM
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I run at 1280 x 1024. As for refresh rate, check out what your monitor will support at that resolution.

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upec   01-05-2002 at 03:18:22 AM
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I am running my 19 inch monitor at 1280 x 1024 and 85Hz.

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upec   01-05-2002 at 03:21:36 AM
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It is not really waste money. My 19 inch TV and 27 inch TV have same resolution. The 27 inch TV is simply bigger.

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Flamethrower205   01-05-2002 at 05:14:38 AM
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1280x1024 at 60hz.

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Arrow   01-05-2002 at 05:35:15 AM
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Doesn't that flicker bother you?

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mbetea   01-05-2002 at 05:43:07 AM
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i run two 17" at 2560x1024@85. i think it's something like that. the matrox card uses two monitors as one. each one alone would be the equivalent of 1280x1024@85.

[insert philosophical statement here]

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Flamethrower205   01-05-2002 at 06:00:25 AM
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No, it doesn't...LCD's don't flicker:)

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mbetea   01-05-2002 at 06:11:52 AM
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It is not really waste money. My 19 inch TV and 27 inch TV have same resolution. The 27 inch TV is simply bigger


well, tv signal doesn't change no matter what size tv you have. it will always be 720x480(ntsc) or 720x576(pal) respectively, unless you get into hdtv. where the actual area of a desktop can change depending on resolution. most people find a rez that's comfortable for them to view, both in size and real-estate

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Arrow   01-05-2002 at 07:51:56 AM
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Oh gee.. you lucky @$$ you! :P

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Flamethrower205   01-05-2002 at 05:18:03 PM
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Thing about TV's is u should never use em as a monitor cause they'll kill ur eyes. They cause a LOT more eyestrain than CRT's cause of the refresh and other things.

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AMD_Man   01-05-2002 at 06:47:16 PM
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Hmm, list of lucky things Flamethrower has:

* LCD monitor
* Quadro DCC for $80
* WinXP Corporate (legally)
* free 1.2GHz Athlon

Hmmm, am I missing something? :wink:

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mbetea   01-05-2002 at 07:38:55 PM
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who said anything about using a tv as a computer monitor? i know i didn't. i was stating as to what upec said. tv signals are constant, no matter what size tv you have. so really comparing different size tv sets to different size tv monitors really doesn't make too much sense in this context.

[insert philosophical statement here]

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Flamethrower205   01-07-2002 at 03:22:21 AM
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Just saying, if anyone was to use a TV> Lol AMD_MAN.

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Flamethrower205   01-07-2002 at 03:22:57 AM
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Oh, and also 3d s max 3 and 4, which I got as presents and tons of plugins:)

My rice car will leave your R8500 in the dust!

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GoSharks   01-07-2002 at 07:39:28 PM
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Reptilej

The biggest mistake I see people do is purchase a monitor and run it at low resolutions like 1024 x 768. Kind of like buying a Ferrari and driving it at 65Mph.

The key specification to tell what the monitors optimum resolution is the horizontal scan frequency.

For example:

A monitor with a 70 - 85Khz HSF is optimized for 1024 x 768 at 85Hz
A monitor with a 92-97Khz HSF is optimized for 1280 x 1024 at 85Hz
A monitor with a 107 - 110Khz HSF is optimized for 1600 x 1200 at 85Hz
A monitor with a 121Khz HSF is optimized for 1900 x 1200

Also there is a direct correlation between HSF and price. As the HSF goes up, the resolution capability goes up and so does the price.

Jim Witkowski
Chief Hardware Engineer
Cornerstone / Monitorsdirect.com

Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

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AMD_Man   01-08-2002 at 03:51:08 AM
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Quote :


The biggest mistake I see people do is purchase a monitor and run it at low resolutions like 1024 x 768. Kind of like buying a Ferrari and driving it at 65Mph.


That's like saying the biggest mistake you see people do is buy fast processors! That's not a mistake! Some people prefer bigger text.

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mbetea   01-08-2002 at 04:44:16 AM
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yes, but you have to remember too, you can put strain on a monitor's components running it below the "recommended" rez/refresh just as well as running it above. personally i couldn't see running 1024x768 on a 17" let alone a 19". but then i'm used to viewing 1280x1024 on 17". but the main thing is whatever you're comfortable at i guess.

[insert philosophical statement here]

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Flamethrower205   01-08-2002 at 04:58:11 AM
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i hope ur talking about LCD...cause that res on a 17" is too small dude! I tried it on a 17" CRT, and it was plain annoying. It is true that it may put strain, but the damn 17" CRT I found won't WORK at its standard settings!! Too bad...it was a very good Graphics Series from Viewsonic...ah well, in da trash it goes...

My rice car will leave your R8500 in the dust!

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mbetea   01-08-2002 at 07:17:25 AM
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i don't see how it's too small. text i can view fine and, well i don't go online to read any online novels, all text is at browser/OS default. guess i'm just used to it, it's never effected me. the only time it REALLY seems small is if i reformat and going from the 800x600 (or whatever win2000 installs with) to this, but after a few mins all is fine. mainly before with one monitor i ran it that high to gain real-estate in ps/premiere/ae, as i'm sure you know the slightest gain in screen area while working is sacred. now with two monitors its even that much better. i gotta say viewsonic makes some nice monitors (mine's the pf775), no probs running it like this and no distortion, woohoo!!! something that this pos mag-innovision couldn't do!

[insert philosophical statement here]

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mbetea   01-08-2002 at 07:18:46 AM
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lol, an afterthough. i remember back in the day where i couldn't see why on earth you could possibly need more room than running a 17" at 1024@768.

[insert philosophical statement here]

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reptilej   01-08-2002 at 08:09:06 AM
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so your saying is i run my sony g420 at 1024 i may be straining it because it is under used? i am using 1280 x 960 right at this second and it seems a bit small for me. i am going to sleep on it and if it is still too small tomorrow i am going back to 1024. what that monitor direct guy said about my monitor running at 107khz or somehitng being optimized for 1600, i can't see at that res. so in the end, does anyone think that 1024 on my sony 19" trinitron is under resolution?

repeat after me, we are all individuals!

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GoSharks   01-08-2002 at 04:52:01 PM
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AMD

My point is that if you will not be using high resolutions like 1600 x 1200 save some $ and purchase a monitor that is optimized for the maximum resolution you plan to use. BTW Windows is fully scaleable, if text is to small at high resolutions, use large fonts etc.

Jim Witkowski
Chief Hardware Engineer
Cornerstone / Monitorsdirect.com

Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

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SDLeMire   01-10-2002 at 05:13:38 AM
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I use 1152x864 for my Viewsonic PF790. I think the video card quality plays a part, too. When this monitor was hooked to a GF2, the text looked like crap (fuzzy) at 1280x1024, so I stuck with 1024x768. After upgrading video card to an ATi radeon 8500, text is much more clear and can do 1152 or 1280 now and it still looks good.

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AMD_Man   01-10-2002 at 01:51:04 PM
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Icons and text sometimes don't look good when you scale them.

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GoSharks   01-10-2002 at 09:20:09 PM
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AMD

You are correct if your monitor is an LCD, if it is a CRT it scales just fine due to its multisync and multipal resolution capabilities.

Jim Witkowski
Chief Hardware Engineer
Cornerstone / Monitorsidirect.com



Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

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Fat_Electron   01-10-2002 at 10:14:36 PM
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I run my 19" at 1280X960 @ 100Hz but thats because I need to run my monitor at a refresh rate in excess of 85Hz to reduce the effect of (what I guess is) environmental interference. And thats the maximum res I can do it in.

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Flamethrower205   01-11-2002 at 12:35:32 AM
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Are you a clone of Fatburger?

My rice car will leave your R8500 in the dust!

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Fat_Electron   01-11-2002 at 02:39:20 AM
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FatBurger   01-29-2002 at 12:21:11 AM
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Flamethrower205   01-29-2002 at 12:40:43 AM
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lol.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.

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reptilej   01-30-2002 at 08:21:16 AM
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hey fat_electron, what kind fo a monitor do you ahve? does it really make a difference from 85hz to 100hz?

repeat after me, we are all individuals!

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Fat_Electron   01-30-2002 at 09:49:56 AM
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Here's the story

My monitor is an LG 915ft plus.
I believe my problem lies in the fact that I live not too far away from powerlines. After noticing the screen image was shaking I created a grid pattern and set my refresh rate to 70Hz; all the vertical lines would move in noticable waves. The higher the refresh, the smaller the waves. So if I keep it at about 100, the effect is barely visible.

At first I thought it was the monitor, but when trying to demonstrate the defect to the retailer, the problem was not there. So I tried moving it to a different room in the house; it make much of a diference.

So in the end, I keep my refresh at or above 100Hz. In order to maintain this refresh with my Vid card, I have to keep the screen at a res at or below 1280 X 960.



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