Is it legal to sleep while flying?

[dallas]

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That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and nighty-night..

Dallas

 

[petebert]

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maybe he did it over the ocean, the FAA cant own that airspace as far as I
know. If no one can own it then who can stop you from doing what you want.


"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
> nighty-night..
>
> Dallas
>
>
>

 

[crash]

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Dallas wrote:
> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
> nighty-night..
>

So far he's only confessed to 3 or 4 minute naps - but, after 40 or 50 hours
awake, it'd take a cattle prod to wake me back up after that 3 minute
nap.... Unless the proper med's were also in play.... d:-0))

 

[Arthur]

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Does the FAA regulate the air space or the pilot?

Arthur

"Petebert" <castle@nthrax.org> wrote in message
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> maybe he did it over the ocean, the FAA cant own that airspace as far as I
> know. If no one can own it then who can stop you from doing what you want.
>
>
> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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>> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
>> nighty-night..
>>
>> Dallas
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
> nighty-night..
>
> Dallas
>
>
It's hard to tell whether it's legal or not. This might be lawyers food if
it really comes to answer that question. But it is one of the basic
principles in aviation to never leave an A/C unattended while inflight.....
Single-handed sailors also infringe the basic priciple of yachtsmanship to
have a continuous outlook while on sea....

Ups, Dallas, I'm afraid you started (again) a lengthy thread.... ;-)))
--
Oskar
(retired captain)
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[dallas]

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"Oskar Wagner"
> It's hard to tell whether it's legal or not. This might be lawyers food if
> it really comes to answer that question.

Yeah, the lawyers would have a field day with Sir Richard Branson if the
Global Flyer took out a 747 in a cloud.

Dallas

 

[Guest]

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Both.
DH

"Arthur" <alspectorz@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Does the FAA regulate the air space or the pilot?
>
> Arthur
>
> "Petebert" <castle@nthrax.org> wrote in message
> news:ipNVd.34$0f7.1223@news.uswest.net...
>> maybe he did it over the ocean, the FAA cant own that airspace as far as
>> I know. If no one can own it then who can stop you from doing what you
>> want.
>>
>>
>> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
>> news:YgNVd.348$oO4.228@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
>>> nighty-night..
>>>
>>> Dallas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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There are authorities that own ceartain tracks in that airspace, but CTA
over the ocean is FL200 and above, if your at 19000ft or below you can do
what you want.

Fly in CTA and you have to talk to whichever centre or FSS is controlling
that area... however in Oceanic airspace there is SELCAL which can work like
an alarm, Someone could consevibly turn down the radio and only wake up when
theyre called by a Selcal, or when their alarm wakes them up to do
something.

"Petebert" <castle@nthrax.org> wrote in message
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> maybe he did it over the ocean, the FAA cant own that airspace as far as I
> know. If no one can own it then who can stop you from doing what you want.
>
>
> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
> news:YgNVd.348$oO4.228@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
>> nighty-night..
>>
>> Dallas
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

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"Oskar Wagner" <rengaw@swissonline.ch> wrote in message
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> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:YgNVd.348$oO4.228@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
>> nighty-night..
>>
>> Dallas
>>
>>
> It's hard to tell whether it's legal or not. This might be lawyers food if
> it really comes to answer that question. But it is one of the basic
> principles in aviation to never leave an A/C unattended while
> inflight.....
> Single-handed sailors also infringe the basic priciple of yachtsmanship to
> have a continuous outlook while on sea....
>
> Ups, Dallas, I'm afraid you started (again) a lengthy thread.... ;-)))
> --
> Oskar
> (retired captain)
> Remember, in the great scheme of things, we're all small potatoes...

Hi Oskar;

I'm guessing he was assigned an off airways flight lane for this leg of his
flight and was well away from scheduled traffic.
I was never involved in an over water record attempt, but I was directly
involved in a successful transcontinental speed record for propeller driven
airplanes back in 1972 here in the United States. (Miss America coast to
coast Lax to Dulles...May 27, 1972 6hrs 18min 5 sec. )
I know in our case, special arrangements are made by the record governing
agency (Bill Ottley at NAA) [ National Aeronautic Association] and we worked
closely with all the regulatory agencies involved. My guess is that Fossett
did his sleeping over water and well off airways, then was awake for all
phases of the flight that included controlled airspace.
Just a wild guess!
Dudley

 

[Guest]

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He wouldln't have any trouble staying up with stimulants, with
modafinal or dexidrine we've had people staying up for four days,
absolutely no sleep, with only relatively small performance
decrements.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:11:56 -0600, "CRaSH" <sorry@aint-here.spam.com>
wrote:

>Dallas wrote:
>> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
>> nighty-night..
>>
>
>So far he's only confessed to 3 or 4 minute naps - but, after 40 or 50 hours
>awake, it'd take a cattle prod to wake me back up after that 3 minute
>nap.... Unless the proper med's were also in play.... d:-0))
>

 

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"Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@noware .net> wrote in message
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> I'm guessing he was assigned an off airways flight lane for this leg of
his
> flight and was well away from scheduled traffic.

I think he was flying at 60,000', which would put him above the Tropopause
and above pretty much everything other than spy planes. And considering the
size of the team behind him and monitoring, I'm sure everyone knew exactly
where he was at all times, including the controllers who's airspace he was
in/over.

Si

 

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"Simon Robbins" <simon@NOSPAMsjrobbins.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@noware .net> wrote in message
> news:_J_Vd.1084$CW2.664@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> I'm guessing he was assigned an off airways flight lane for this leg of
> his
>> flight and was well away from scheduled traffic.
>
> I think he was flying at 60,000', which would put him above the Tropopause
> and above pretty much everything other than spy planes. And considering
> the
> size of the team behind him and monitoring, I'm sure everyone knew
> exactly
> where he was at all times, including the controllers who's airspace he was
> in/over.
>
> Si
>
>

Thought I saw something along the lines of FL450 for the bulk of the
flight...?

Jay B

 

[crash]

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Jay Beckman wrote:
>
> Thought I saw something along the lines of FL450 for the bulk of the
> flight...?
>
me too......

 

[Guest]

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Over 60K would be above Class A, but you still have the transitional areas
especially within 12 miles of the coast and potential emergency descent
scenarios to consider. I've not done any over water international flying at
all, but I think you would be correct in the "record sense", if you
projected that a "lane" was assigned for his flight regardless of his
altitude, and that he was monitored through the flight for any potential
conflicts that might have developed during any emergency descent with other
traffic below him.
DH

"Simon Robbins" <simon@NOSPAMsjrobbins.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Dudley Henriques" <dhenriques@noware .net> wrote in message
> news:_J_Vd.1084$CW2.664@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> I'm guessing he was assigned an off airways flight lane for this leg of
> his
>> flight and was well away from scheduled traffic.
>
> I think he was flying at 60,000', which would put him above the Tropopause
> and above pretty much everything other than spy planes. And considering
> the
> size of the team behind him and monitoring, I'm sure everyone knew
> exactly
> where he was at all times, including the controllers who's airspace he was
> in/over.
>
> Si
>
>

 

[Guest]

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During the week (Sunday night to Thursday night) I only sleep 5 hours at
most, and then have 15 minute power naps every so often. Friday night and
Saturday night I sleep for about 9-12 hours each night but if I don't get
this (sleep at my girlfriends who has to be at work at 9 on Saturday
(erghh)) then it throws me out a bit for that week.

My point, he can do like 3-4 hours sleep and power nap throughout the day.
The main developer behind the game "Republic: The Revolution" does this
every day so it does work

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> That's what Steve Fossett did... turned the autopilot on and
> nighty-night..
>
> Dallas
>
>
>