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August 19, 2005 12:22:18 PM

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Hello,

I have 2 laptops.
Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card. OS
is XP pro sp2
Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915 internal
adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP home sp2

I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53

Here is my scenario.
I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit
encription. No problems, no issues.
When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects fine,
the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip address.

The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless Zero.
Still no joy.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of WAP
on the 6000?

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Anonymous
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August 19, 2005 8:02:45 PM

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Hi,
As you probably have noticed, the Intel config utility has
troubleshooting tools: packet counters, logging.
Try to use them to investigate.
--PA

"Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I have 2 laptops.
> Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card. OS is XP pro sp2
> Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915 internal adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP
> home sp2
>
> I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53
>
> Here is my scenario.
> I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit encription. No problems, no issues.
> When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects fine, the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to
> obtain a valid ip address.
>
> The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
> I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless Zero. Still no joy.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of WAP on the 6000?
>
Anonymous
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a b D Laptop
August 20, 2005 1:54:31 AM

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Try cloning the mac address and setting the ip address manually. Rather than
allowing the router to set the address. Make sure SSID is enabled.

"Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
news:o OAfvaMpFHA.3304@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> As you probably have noticed, the Intel config utility has
> troubleshooting tools: packet counters, logging.
> Try to use them to investigate.
> --PA
>
> "Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have 2 laptops.
>> Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card.
>> OS is XP pro sp2
>> Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915
>> internal adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP home sp2
>>
>> I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53
>>
>> Here is my scenario.
>> I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit
>> encription. No problems, no issues.
>> When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects
>> fine, the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip
>> address.
>>
>> The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
>> I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless
>> Zero. Still no joy.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of
>> WAP on the 6000?
>>
>
>
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August 20, 2005 10:53:41 PM

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Let Windows XP SP2 mange your wireless.

"Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I have 2 laptops.
> Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card.
> OS is XP pro sp2
> Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915 internal
> adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP home sp2
>
> I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53
>
> Here is my scenario.
> I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit
> encription. No problems, no issues.
> When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects fine,
> the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip address.
>
> The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
> I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless
> Zero. Still no joy.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of WAP
> on the 6000?
>
August 21, 2005 12:41:52 AM

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Christian wrote:
> Let Windows XP SP2 mange your wireless.

This is a good suggestion.

>
> "Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
[SNIP]

>>When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects fine,
>>the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip address.
[SNIP]

Make sure there is no firewall preventing the connection.
August 23, 2005 5:16:19 PM

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Tried the manual ip thing. still no joy on wpa. Wep works just fine. I'm
suspecting hardware incompatibility problems.

"Bad Wind" <reply_to@group.net> wrote in message
news:o IBI0AQpFHA.1412@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Try cloning the mac address and setting the ip address manually. Rather
> than allowing the router to set the address. Make sure SSID is enabled.
>
> "Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
> news:o OAfvaMpFHA.3304@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>> As you probably have noticed, the Intel config utility has
>> troubleshooting tools: packet counters, logging.
>> Try to use them to investigate.
>> --PA
>>
>> "Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have 2 laptops.
>>> Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card.
>>> OS is XP pro sp2
>>> Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915
>>> internal adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP home sp2
>>>
>>> I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53
>>>
>>> Here is my scenario.
>>> I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit
>>> encription. No problems, no issues.
>>> When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects
>>> fine, the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip
>>> address.
>>>
>>> The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
>>> I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless
>>> Zero. Still no joy.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of
>>> WAP on the 6000?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
August 23, 2005 5:26:57 PM

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You should actually read the original post to see that I have tried both the
Windows wireless configuration as well as the adapter card's utility and I'm
having problems ONLY with wpa.
I've already ruled out the firewall. The problem lies between the card and
router using the wpa encription.
I'm asking if anyone else has had this particular problem between an Intel
wireless card and a D-link router.

"WEN" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:o Nm2jnfpFHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Christian wrote:
>> Let Windows XP SP2 mange your wireless.
>
> This is a good suggestion.
>
>>
>> "Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
> [SNIP]
>
>>>When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects
>>>fine,
>>>the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip address.
> [SNIP]
>
> Make sure there is no firewall preventing the connection.
August 23, 2005 5:28:21 PM

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Thanks, I'll try that and see if I can find what's going on behind the
scenes.

"Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
news:o OAfvaMpFHA.3304@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> As you probably have noticed, the Intel config utility has
> troubleshooting tools: packet counters, logging.
> Try to use them to investigate.
> --PA
>
> "Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have 2 laptops.
>> Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card.
>> OS is XP pro sp2
>> Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915
>> internal adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP home sp2
>>
>> I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53
>>
>> Here is my scenario.
>> I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit
>> encription. No problems, no issues.
>> When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects
>> fine, the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip
>> address.
>>
>> The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
>> I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless
>> Zero. Still no joy.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of
>> WAP on the 6000?
>>
>
>
August 26, 2005 11:15:56 PM

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Leroy wrote:
> You should actually read the original post to see that I have tried both the
> Windows wireless configuration as well as the adapter card's utility and I'm
> having problems ONLY with wpa.
> I've already ruled out the firewall. The problem lies between the card and
> router using the wpa encription.
> I'm asking if anyone else has had this particular problem between an Intel
> wireless card and a D-link router.

Well, Leroy, you should actually learn some manners. Since you're so
smart you'll doubtless figure this out on your own.
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
a b D Laptop
August 27, 2005 1:29:05 AM

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> I'm asking if anyone else has had this particular problem between an
> Intel

FWIW I have the exact same symptoms.

I suspect the problem is on the router side, but it's just suspicion.
Other network cards have no problem at all, but my inspiron 6000's card
constantly drops WEP. Connection is good. Cycling the router brings back
the connection. Just started looking for a solution this evening.



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Anonymous
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a b D Laptop
August 27, 2005 3:19:52 AM

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its not a hardware problem its a windows problem. I have a compaq presario
r3000 with xp home and xp pro on it. I use wpa-psk with AES
when using xp home I can not get an ip and I have tried everything I can
think of, but using xp pro, wpa works perfectly first try. there is a
driver or something somewhere in xp home that does not work properly with
wpa encryption. if anyone knows what this driver is I would love to know
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
a b D Laptop
August 27, 2005 3:22:47 AM

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its not a hardware problem its a windows problem. I have a compaq presario
r3000 with xp home and xp pro on it. I use wpa-psk with AES
when using xp home I can not get an ip and I have tried everything I can
think of, but using xp pro, wpa works perfectly first try. there is a
driver or something somewhere in xp home that does not work properly with
wpa encryption. if anyone knows what this driver is I would love to know
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
a b D Laptop
August 27, 2005 2:59:57 PM

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I could only use WEP until I updated the drivers for my wireless network
cards. Once I updated the drivers for them, I was able to use WPA. I have
three computers and two of them have the Linksys WMP54GS wireless network
cards. They both needed the updated drivers. Once updated I was able to use
WPA and both now work fine.

So, maybe you might want to check on that. Maybe your XP Home needs to have
updated drivers for the network card whereas they might already be in the XP
Pro.

"created" <mattolan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:57e9080af157092fd37c1dd93dd88c7f@localhost.talkaboutsoftware.com...
> its not a hardware problem its a windows problem. I have a compaq presario
> r3000 with xp home and xp pro on it. I use wpa-psk with AES
> when using xp home I can not get an ip and I have tried everything I can
> think of, but using xp pro, wpa works perfectly first try. there is a
> driver or something somewhere in xp home that does not work properly with
> wpa encryption. if anyone knows what this driver is I would love to know
>
Anonymous
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a b D Laptop
August 27, 2005 10:32:22 PM

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I actually thought of that and tried updating the wirless card drivers last
night. I installed the latest version and it did not make any difference.

I am wondering if there is a windows component that handles the different
encryption types that might need to be upgraded?
August 30, 2005 3:06:07 PM

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Apparently you aren't.
Smart that is.
Don't criticize unless it is constructive, don't offer useless help.

"WEN" <user@net.com> wrote in message
news:%23qSzrTqqFHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Leroy wrote:
>> You should actually read the original post to see that I have tried both
>> the
>> Windows wireless configuration as well as the adapter card's utility and
>> I'm
>> having problems ONLY with wpa.
>> I've already ruled out the firewall. The problem lies between the card
>> and
>> router using the wpa encription.
>> I'm asking if anyone else has had this particular problem between an
>> Intel
>> wireless card and a D-link router.
>
> Well, Leroy, you should actually learn some manners. Since you're so
> smart you'll doubtless figure this out on your own.
>
August 30, 2005 3:19:21 PM

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A follow up to my problem.

I determined the problem to be with the Inspiron 6000 and the Intel wireless
nic.
After spending time in Dell-Hell, I learned that updated drivers will be
available in the future, no arrival date specified. Thanks, Dell.

Solution: use a D-Link wireless card (DWL-G650) in the 6000, disable the
Intel nic when on my home network. Both kids play nice in the sandbox. WPA
for everybody. Happy happy, joy joy.

Thanks to everyone for their tips and advice.

Leroy


"Leroy" <leroy_lemon@eat_my_shorts_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ulDKHEMpFHA.2904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I have 2 laptops.
> Laptop one is a Dell Inspiron 5100 with a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card.
> OS is XP pro sp2
> Laptop two is a Dell Inspiron 6000 with an Intel PRO/wirelss 2915 internal
> adapter reported to support 802.11 a/b/g OS is XP home sp2
>
> I am connecting to a DI-624 router, hardware rev c, firmware rev 2.53
>
> Here is my scenario.
> I am able to connect both laptops to the router using WEP 128 bit
> encription. No problems, no issues.
> When I attempt to enable WPA using a WPA-PSK, the Dell 5100 connects fine,
> the 6000 says it's connected and is unable to obtain a valid ip address.
>
> The 5100 uses Wireless Zero config provided by XP.
> I've tried using the Intel wireless config utility as well as Wireless
> Zero. Still no joy.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what the issue is with the lack of WAP
> on the 6000?
>
!