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December 11, 2005 12:48:29 AM

I've had my current system for quite a while now, (Athlon XP 3200, 1G RAM, Radeon 9800Pro) and I was looking to upgrade it to make the latest and future games run more smoothly. I was thinking of upgrading my motherboard to give me the option of buying a new PCI-E graphics card also a new CPU. I have of about £400 to spend on a motherboard, CPU and Graphics Card and as said before I'm just looking for some help on what components to buy. Any help would be a appreciated.

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December 11, 2005 1:35:04 AM

Ok, well im a long time lurker short time poster butll ill give my first stab aat advice from all the stuff i learned from pickxx... ok 700 bucks for CPU, mobo, and Gpu is quite a lot... so heres what u want-

CPU- AMD 64 3700+ san diego = 240 dollars
GPU- 7800 GT (eVGA, XFX, or BFG) = 300 dollars
Mobo- Either this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

first one is 70, second one is 110

so thats 610-650 but thats not including tax and sh but im sure u can find better deals.... however, i doubt your pwr supply is good enough for the 7800 so ur gong to nee dto upgrade that as well, and id also recomend upgrading ur ram to ones with better timings - corsair xms or ocz gold/platinum or kingston hyperx
December 12, 2005 2:17:24 AM

hmm, he can have the best of both worlds if he waits a little.

get the asrock 939dual-sata2 here

this guys is seriously underrated and it OC's like a banana. the best part is it supports both AGP and PCie so you can reuse 9800pro and wait for the 7800gt price to drop a little. Now all you need is a mobo, 3700+ is your best pick for the long term use. The PSU doesn't need to be upgraded too
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December 12, 2005 3:16:58 AM

The new Ati chipset boards have started to arrive. The Asus A8R-MVP is available, and while very reasonable for an asus board, is a great mobo.
Personnally, I am waiting for the Abit board. The AT8 is the one.
December 12, 2005 9:50:12 AM

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hmm, he can have the best of both worlds if he waits a little.

get the asrock 939dual-sata2 here

this guys is seriously underrated and it OC's like a banana. the best part is it supports both AGP and PCie so you can reuse 9800pro and wait for the 7800gt price to drop a little. Now all you need is a mobo, 3700+ is your best pick for the long term use. The PSU doesn't need to be upgraded too


I am making it my personal mission to read everything you post. You reccomend the same board to everyone saying it can OC like a banana(which make no sense....) and then refering new people to flash their bios's with a 3rd part BIOS.....NOT SMART FOR NEW PEOPLE!!



*****PROMETHEAS*****
PERFECT, Seriously.....gold star, exactly what i would reccomend for that. A nice 7800GT, 3700+, chaintech or Epox (maybe Abit as well)



*****Karus*****
What Power supply do you have.....not just Watts but actual brand and model # if you can find it.? Is your ram PC2700+ or PC3200?

you might have to downgrade your cpu to a 3200+ to get a valeu kit of ram and a new better power supply.....wont know till you answer.
December 12, 2005 4:04:30 PM

Picxx, my powersupply is a Thermaltake 450W and my RAM is PC3200+.
a b U Graphics card
December 12, 2005 6:45:36 PM

He's got the funny pound signage in front of his money figures...don't forget that he will have to pay more for his parts.

Karus: What mobo do you have right now? have you thought of OCing your current rig? The only reason I say this is that you won't get a huge performance increase by jumping to an A64 rig right now. At least not a 3200+ CPU. With your current rig I would seriously consider getting an new vid card, instead of laying out serious cash for mobo, CPU and GPU. Your rig is recent enough that a good vid card will last you for a significant amount of time. AMD is releasing a new socket this summer (M2) and it will use DDR2 instead of DDR - that's another reason not to make the jump right now, too. JMHO...
December 12, 2005 8:29:30 PM

okay, pickxx

i will not rec the asrock to stranger anymore. it can do oc if you flash bio + mobo mod(like soldering). i guess not good for new people.

apologies to new people, go with the chaintech vnf4 instead to save you the trouble

btw i don't know much grammer so excuse me on that banana stuff

my comment on the chipset meant if no CF, then xpress200 is not needed. that's all
a b U Graphics card
December 12, 2005 8:44:55 PM

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it can do oc if you flash bio + mobo mod(like soldering). i guess not good for new people.

You shouldn't have to flash the BIOS and solder on the mobo to OC that board. What type of mod and OC are you talking about?
December 12, 2005 8:52:34 PM

Rugger I checked out my mobo with SiSoft Sandra and heres the info (You don't have to read it all)-

Manufacturer - Epox
Model - nVidia-nforce
Chipset - nVidia nForce2SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Pronix (Epox)
MP Support : No
Model : nVidia-nForce
System BIOS : 10/17/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BPACC-00
Chipset : nVidia nForce2 ICP

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 3
Maximum Installable Memory : 1.5GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM 512MB
Bank2/3 - A1 : DIMM 256MB
Bank4/5 - A2 : DIMM 256MB

Chipset 1
Model : Nvidia Corp nForce2 AGP Controller
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 200MHz / 2x 200MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 8 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : HyperTransport
Version : 0.10
In/Out Width : 8-bit / 8-bit
Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-4-4-8 2CMD
Bank 1 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-4-4-8 2CMD
Bank 2 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-4-4-8 2CMD
Channels : 2
Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 6/6x
Width : 64-bit
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Memory Module 1
Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 2.5-4-4-8
Date of Manufacture : 25 December 1999
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.5-4-4-8

Memory Module 2
Type : 256MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 8x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 2.5-4-4-8
Date of Manufacture : 25 December 1999
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.5-4-4-8

Memory Module 3
Type : 256MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 8x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 2.5-4-4-8
Date of Manufacture : 25 December 1999
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.5-4-4-8

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA
Version : 2.01
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
CPU Temperature : 52.0°C / 125.6°F
Power / Aux Temperature : 33.0°C / 91.4°F

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
Power / Aux Fan Speed : 2377rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.60V
Aux Voltage : 1.63V
+3.3V Voltage : 2.72V
+5V Voltage : 5.00V
+12V Voltage : 11.80V
-12V Voltage : -7.18V
-5V Voltage : -5.10V
Standby Voltage : 4.99V
Battery Voltage : 3.09V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 3.00
Speed : 8x
Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit
Aperture Size : 128MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.20
Number of Bridges : 2
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 1 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce2 ISA Bridge

LPC Hub Controller 2
Model : Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce MCP-T SMBus Controller

USB Controller 1
Model : Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce2 OHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce2 OHCI USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce2 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : Creative Labs Audigy 2 Firewire Controller
Version : 1.10
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : No
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

FireWire/1394 Controller 2
Model : Epox Computer Co Ltd FW322/323 IEEE1394 OHCI FireWire Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : No
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : nVidia MCP2+ B0 SMBus
Version : 0A.02
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

System SMBus Controller 2
Model : nVidia MCP2+ B1 SMBus
Version : 0A.02
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce2 ISA Bridge)
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Epox Computer Co Ltd nForce2 OHCI USB Controller)
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used
PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used
PCI4 (5h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
AGP (F0h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available

Port Connector
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB : USB - None / None
December 12, 2005 9:04:11 PM

Okay, the OC with manufacturer Bios don't OC too high. A modded BIOS from OCW(check techpowerup) can get you more Vcore. For more Vcore, you need to bridge the Vcore controller using solders. Since the original BIOS only has low, medium, and high for memory, a Vdimm mod takes care of that. however, the memory volt mod only works one time so you wanna know what voltage you want. This way you can break possibly 300 for the CPU(a 3000+), if you put a fan on the Uli chipset to prevent from burn out. Too much trouble for new people, but not that bad if you're experienced(or you're adventurous).
December 13, 2005 12:34:58 AM

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it can do oc if you flash bio + mobo mod(like soldering). i guess not good for new people.

You shouldn't have to flash the BIOS and solder on the mobo to OC that board. What type of mod and OC are you talking about?

Exactly....thats one crazy OC..lol
December 13, 2005 12:37:34 AM

Quote:
He's got the funny pound signage in front of his money figures...don't forget that he will have to pay more for his parts.

Karus: What mobo do you have right now? have you thought of OCing your current rig? The only reason I say this is that you won't get a huge performance increase by jumping to an A64 rig right now. At least not a 3200+ CPU. With your current rig I would seriously consider getting an new vid card, instead of laying out serious cash for mobo, CPU and GPU. Your rig is recent enough that a good vid card will last you for a significant amount of time. AMD is releasing a new socket this summer (M2) and it will use DDR2 instead of DDR - that's another reason not to make the jump right now, too. JMHO...


I saw the pound sign....lol

but i forgot prices arn't the same....meaning if i can get something here for $100 in europe it might be twice that. I dont mean 200 pounds, i mean the equivalent of $200US.
Damn you caught me again Ruggs
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