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December 16, 2005 9:04:47 PM

I probably will not get one anytime soon, I just have to ask...

Does anyone own a Geforce 7800GTX 512MB card? How awesome is it? Does it blow 7800GTX away or just barely different? Any info would be appreciated.

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December 16, 2005 9:23:27 PM

Did you miss the benchmarks that the entire web did on this card?

I've got 2x 7800GTX's. They own the GTX 512. :-)

-mpjesse
December 16, 2005 9:25:26 PM

First off, look at some benchmarks over at anandtech or tech report. Second, buying a GTX512 isn't worth the money. Third, buying a 7800GT will perform well for anyones needs, even at pretty high res.
If you must have PWNING performance, get 2GT's and SLI them. They will perform better than a GTX512 and are cheaper. They also seem to scale better with AA and stuff (I think).
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December 16, 2005 9:29:41 PM

I really wanted a response from someone who OWNED one as I asked. Thanks for your replies though--saw the benchmarks already. Reality can be a different than benchmarks, though...anyone who owns this card please reply.
December 16, 2005 9:33:33 PM

That is real world!!1111!!!!!111!!!!!!!

You don't get it, look:

1.) you can't find them anywhere
2.) It's WAY, WAY too expensive ($750!)
3.) 2GTs in SLI beat it (which is what I got), for less $$$$$

It does not PWN the GTX, it does better thats for sure. The benchmarks are custome timedemos that are reliable.
IT IS NOT WORTH IT NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
Thats my opion on the matter, now for anyone that ACTUALLY OWNS a GTX512...it's your turn ;) 
December 19, 2005 10:34:28 AM

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First off, look at some benchmarks over at anandtech or tech report. Second, buying a GTX512 isn't worth the money. Third, buying a 7800GT will perform well for anyones needs, even at pretty high res.
If you must have PWNING performance, get 2GT's and SLI them. They will perform better than a GTX512 and are cheaper. They also seem to scale better with AA and stuff (I think).


thats what ive been wanting to hear. so, is the two 7800gtx worth the performance for the cost? coz im trying get get my hands on those 512's but their price seems to be sky high. but im willing to get two 512's if the performance is worth spending for. :roll: are the two 7800gtx worth the performance for the price too? :) 
December 19, 2005 5:21:43 PM

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First off, look at some benchmarks over at anandtech or tech report. Second, buying a GTX512 isn't worth the money. Third, buying a 7800GT will perform well for anyones needs, even at pretty high res.
If you must have PWNING performance, get 2GT's and SLI them. They will perform better than a GTX512 and are cheaper. They also seem to scale better with AA and stuff (I think).


thats what ive been wanting to hear. so, is the two 7800gtx worth the performance for the cost? coz im trying get get my hands on those 512's but their price seems to be sky high. but im willing to get two 512's if the performance is worth spending for. :roll: are the two 7800gtx worth the performance for the price too? :) 

The only SLI setup that is worth it (IMO) is the 2 7800GT's. Going to 2 GTX's, it hardly seems worth it to spend $300 more for ~5-10fps were you could just OC the GT's to get those ~5-10 fps back. Second, sure 2 512GTX's are unbeatable, sure they offer OMFG performance, but it's not worth the money you have to spend to get them. $1500 for just video cards is insane. Spend the money saved on some really good water cooling setup if you want, or get 1 7800GT now, and then when R580/G71 comes out, get that.

But if you HAVE to get a video card now, I'd say go with either 1 or 2 7800GT's, you can't beat the price/performance ratio on those.

Look here at some benchmarks. Note the VERY LITTLE difference between the GT's and GTX's. Sure the 512 GTX leads the pack, but you really don't need all that horsepower.

If you have more questions feel free to ask, or if I haven't convinced you not to get it enough, ask again.
December 20, 2005 2:04:08 AM

:D  thank you for replying. im satisfied with your explanation. :D  but before i get one of those 7800gt's, do u have any brand recommendation? :D  i was looking through different brands and found out they have different clocks and mhz. :?
December 20, 2005 2:14:42 AM

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:D  thank you for replying. im satisfied with your explanation. :D  but before i get one of those 7800gt's, do u have any brand recommendation? :D  i was looking through different brands and found out they have different clocks and mhz. :?


I'd get the evga, it comes with a lifetime warrenty, can OC as much as you want with out voiding warrenty, and the price is the best around.

This one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

It's sold out right now, but the price, warrenty, everything about it unbeatable. (free copper cooler <-well almost free, rebate on the cheaper one makes it more expensive, but thats a REBATE).
December 20, 2005 4:59:01 PM

I have to disagree with the assessment of the 512 MB 7800 GTX in this thread.

If you take a closer look at the benchmarks you posted DragonX you'll see that dual 512 MB 7800 GTXs far outperform dual 7800GTs at high resolution. And then take a look at all the other games besides Doom 3 at 1280x1024 and note that dual 7800 GTs hardly outperform a single 7800 GT.

So, before drawing a conclusion as to whether the 512 MB 7800 GTX is outperformed or 'owned' by dual 7800 GTs ask yourself at what resolution do you want to run your video games?

If you go with dual 7800 GTs and run them at 1280x1024 you're wasting your money. You might as well buy a single 512MB 7800 GTX. Its almost the same price as two decent 7800 GTs (give or take $50), and you get better performance (+ less power consumption = lower electric bill ;)  ). Consider the editorial published by Tom's called "SLI Stands for Silly".

In fact, as I look again at the benchmarks posted by DragonX, dual 7800 GTs barely outperforms a single 512MB 7800 GTX at 1600x1200.

So while I agree that its probably not worth buying dual 512MB 7800 GTXs at this point in terms of price to performance, they will certainly give you the best performance overall compared to dual 7800 GTs if you have the budget and run your games at 1600x1200 or higher. Other than that, availability is the biggest problem I see with these cards.
December 20, 2005 5:11:09 PM

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I have to disagree with the assessment of the 512 MB 7800 GTX in this thread.

If you take a closer look at the benchmarks you posted DragonX you'll see that dual 512 MB 7800 GTXs far outperform dual 7800GTs at high resolution. And then take a look at all the other games besides Doom 3 at 1280x1024 and note that dual 7800 GTs hardly outperform a single 7800 GT.

So, before drawing a conclusion as to whether the 512 MB 7800 GTX is outperformed or 'owned' by dual 7800 GTs ask yourself at what resolution do you want to run your video games?

If you go with dual 7800 GTs and run them at 1280x1024 you're wasting your money. You might as well buy a single 512MB 7800 GTX. Its almost the same price as two decent 7800 GTs (give or take $50), and you get better performance (+ less power consumption = lower electric bill ;)  ). Consider the editorial published by Tom's called "SLI Stands for Silly".

In fact, as I look again at the benchmarks posted by DragonX, dual 7800 GTs barely outperforms a single 512MB 7800 GTX at 1600x1200.

So while I agree that its probably not worth buying dual 512MB 7800 GTXs at this point in terms of price to performance, they will certainly give you the best performance overall compared to dual 7800 GTs if you have the budget and run your games at 1600x1200 or higher. Other than that, availability is the biggest problem I see with these cards.


Here we go again.

First, I know 2 512 GTX's beat 2 7800GTs (they kind of destroy them).

Second, his choices were 1 512GTX (~$750), or 2 7800GT's (~$600). You are willing to admit that 2 7800GT's beats 1 512GTX right? Well that would be greater performance for less $$$. Its not about how much performance a card has, it's about it's price/perfromance ratio. And right now the 7800GT has a price/performance ratio that can't be beat.

If he was planning on getting a 512GTX he obviously has money to burn, so why not get 7800GT's in SLI, ITS EVEN CHEAPER!!!!

I still can't justify getting the 512GTX, at least not yet. It's too expensive, 2 GT's outperform it, you can't find them (vaporware?), and price/performance ratio is too low.

Does my argument beat yours...yet?

EDIT: I took a look at those benchmarks again, and dual GT's get ~20fps more in fear than a single 512GTX, that seems to be the norm ~20fps. Sometimes a little more, sometimes less, but that could mean the difference between choppy and smooth gameplay. So how could you say there was little performance difference?
December 20, 2005 5:30:11 PM

"...Second, his choices were 1 512GTX (~$750), or 2 7800GT's (~$600). "

Nope. I was comparing ONE GeForce 7800 GTX to ONE GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB. I don't own an SLi capable mobo, it only has one PCIx16 slot. I enjoyed reading your posts though :lol: 

Question still stands--Does anyone who OWNS a GTX 512 see a big difference in performance? Does anyone even own a GeForce 7800GTX 512MB for that matter?
December 20, 2005 5:35:49 PM

mpjesse owns two in SLI
December 20, 2005 5:39:24 PM

I would then suggest an HIS X1800XT for $549 at newegg.

625mhz core, 512mb @ 1500mhz mem speed... :wink:
December 20, 2005 7:57:36 PM

I own a GTX 512.

I can say im pretty happy with the results, one reason why i chose the GTX 512 over a SLI setup was that i felt, and kept reading, alot of games arent optimized for SLI. As well as other problems, SLI isnt completely pnp yet.

I think a few benches on TG awhile ago the GTX 512 actually pulls ahead of SLI GTXs on some games. With updated drivers this probably isnt the case anymore.

I doubt you would notice a huge difference with either setup.

To me i just prefer not to deal with the few bugs SLI setups still have, when they work those out no doubt it will be the dual voodoo II era all over again.
December 20, 2005 8:33:12 PM

Thank you very much tdevi1, after nearly 10 responses I finally have someone who answered my question!
December 20, 2005 8:55:47 PM

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So while I agree that its probably not worth buying dual 512MB 7800 GTXs at this point in terms of price to performance...
*snip*


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Does my argument beat yours...yet?

EDIT: I took a look at those benchmarks again, and dual GT's get ~20fps more in fear than a single 512GTX, that seems to be the norm ~20fps. Sometimes a little more, sometimes less, but that could mean the difference between choppy and smooth gameplay. So how could you say there was little performance difference?

Price to performance Dual 7800 GTs beat Dual 512MB 7800 GTXs. I never said otherwise. So we agree there. But dual 512 GTXs are still better performers overall is my point.

In response to your edit: a single 512MB 7800 GTX has comparable framerates to dual 7800 GTs, is what I was saying. Not a single 512 to dual 512s.

Sorry bourgoisdude, I just wanted to make sure you wouldn't be getting a bad interpretation of the relevant benchmarks.

Besides, just because someone else says the card works well on their system doesn't mean it'll work well in yours. Motherboard bus, CPU speed, RAM amount and RAM latency will all affect the performance of your machine and the stability of your system, so its hard to compare unless we know what you have.

For the record...no...I don't own a 512MB GTX... 8)
December 26, 2005 12:34:18 PM

Im in the same boat. Im about to upgrade, but im not sure what to get. I dont mind paying for a 512 now, and getting another later when prices start to drop. Im also looking at getting the 256 version, and getting another later.

If I plan to buy one now, which would be the best way to go? I only plan to run games at 1024x786 for the most part, maybe 1280x1024. I dont really want rediculous resolutions, but I do want all the eye candy I can possibly get.
Is the 512 worth spending the extra money on? Take in mind im looking at the future too. Will the 512 be worth buying if it will be able to play the latest and greatest longer than the 256 can?

Plans for the upgrade are...
AMD 64 4000+ San Diego(plans for a big OC)
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
1024 Corsair XMS Platinum ddr400(hopefully another gig soon)
Antec 550w psu
blah blah

Does anyone see a problem with that setup? Also, sorry to hijack the thread, but i didnt want to make a new one when this one is similar.
December 26, 2005 4:41:00 PM

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Im in the same boat. Im about to upgrade, but im not sure what to get. I dont mind paying for a 512 now, and getting another later when prices start to drop. Im also looking at getting the 256 version, and getting another later.

If I plan to buy one now, which would be the best way to go? I only plan to run games at 1024x786 for the most part, maybe 1280x1024. I dont really want rediculous resolutions, but I do want all the eye candy I can possibly get.
Is the 512 worth spending the extra money on? Take in mind im looking at the future too. Will the 512 be worth buying if it will be able to play the latest and greatest longer than the 256 can?

Plans for the upgrade are...
AMD 64 4000+ San Diego(plans for a big OC)
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
1024 Corsair XMS Platinum ddr400(hopefully another gig soon)
Antec 550w psu
blah blah

Does anyone see a problem with that setup? Also, sorry to hijack the thread, but i didnt want to make a new one when this one is similar.


Wait for G71/R580 if you have an ok system now. If it can't wait then get the regular GTX/GT. And its not like you could even fine GTX512's anyway.
December 27, 2005 3:30:42 AM

My system now is.....

Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
AMD 2500+ Barton (1.83GHz @ 2.41GHz)
ATi Radeon 9800 Pro

its not awful, but I want to upgrade to the latest and greatest.
December 28, 2005 2:48:04 PM

Ok I read a few reviews on here of mainly people who don't own one. I sold my 6800 gt bfg for 335 on ebay and put the money towards the 512mb 7800 gtx. I'm scoring fps up over 230+ in bf2 with fps being unlocked. My res is at 1280x1024 settings are all on ultra with 4x aa and 16x anisotropic. I can tell you right now the bottlneck in my system is the 3400+ amd and no dual channel ram. It scored 10,352 in 3dmark 2005.

3400+ 754
2gig ocz latency 2 single channel
So what I'm saying is if you have the 939 setup expect even more performance of course. I wouldn't knock it unless you owned one even then you can't knock this beast of a card.
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bfg6wd.jpg

Here you can see 2x 7800 gtx 256 sli vs 1 7800 gtx 512 it still wins by 2 fps vs the 2 cards. http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2607&p=6
If you are going to sli, do it in the future with 2x 512mb. NEWegg says they had them for release the next day but they have an open window to buy them about 10 minutes the day before. They sold out only 25 at a time.

TEAMGOD
December 30, 2005 12:45:34 PM

what do you guys think of the computer i posted before?
December 30, 2005 1:35:36 PM

Hello,

If you want a single personal review on the GTX 512 mb only then read AnandTech's review. All the valid points made in this thread and Tomshardware all point to get 2x 7800 GT or 2x 7800 GTX, it is faster and cheaper this way.
December 30, 2005 1:45:55 PM

Quote:
Hello,

If you want a single personal review on the GTX 512 mb only then read AnandTech's review. All the valid points made in this thread and Tomshardware all point to get 2x 7800 GT or 2x 7800 GTX, it is faster and cheaper this way.


Even if the mobo I have is not SLI capable?
January 2, 2006 5:21:21 PM

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what do you guys think of the computer i posted before?


Which one, the one you're planning to upgrade to, or the one that you have now?
January 4, 2006 2:01:56 PM

Either. Ive already ordered the parts, just waiting for them to get here.

Ordered:
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
eVGA 7800 GTX 256mb (plan to get another one soon)
74GB WD Raptor
Thermalright XP-120 heatsink
2GB Corsair XMS DDR400 Platinum
Enermax 600w
Lian Li PC-65
January 4, 2006 3:04:53 PM

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Either. Ive already ordered the parts, just waiting for them to get here.

Ordered:
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
eVGA 7800 GTX 256mb (plan to get another one soon)
74GB WD Raptor
Thermalright XP-120 heatsink
2GB Corsair XMS DDR400 Platinum
Enermax 600w
Lian Li PC-65


Looks very nice to me. Well-rounded high end system...though you may find yourself wanting for Hard Drive space fairly quickly if you like to install all your games on your system at once. :D  I can't seem to get more than 6 or 7 on at a time....though all that custom content for NWN really takes up a lot of space. *sighs*
January 4, 2006 4:11:05 PM

Samsa--I've been meaning to tell you this for a while. Your signature shows your system has a "WD Caviar 80 GB 133 ATA "...problem is there's no such thing as a WDC with ATA133--only ATA100. WD has been very staunch against the entire ATA133 craze, is only why I mention this...the CONTROLLER may be ATA133 but the drive is ATA100.
January 4, 2006 7:06:13 PM

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Samsa--I've been meaning to tell you this for a while. Your signature shows your system has a "WD Caviar 80 GB 133 ATA "...problem is there's no such thing as a WDC with ATA133--only ATA100. WD has been very staunch against the entire ATA133 craze, is only why I mention this...the CONTROLLER may be ATA133 but the drive is ATA100.


8O

Heh...oops. I never payed attention to what kind of ATA it was, as I've always had it on this serial adapter that came with my mobo. Thanks for the heads up. :) 
January 4, 2006 9:54:13 PM

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Hello,

If you want a single personal review on the GTX 512 mb only then read AnandTech's review. All the valid points made in this thread and Tomshardware all point to get 2x 7800 GT or 2x 7800 GTX, it is faster and cheaper this way.


i am thinking of getting a pc, so would 2 7800gt's under sli be bettter than using a 7800gtx 512 or 256mb?
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