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http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20051221A1001.html
gets me thinking, good news for me if intel releases conroe early. im upgrading in august, so that will give me a good idea if conroe or m2 is better. of course, nobody knows how high it will clock, it will most likely be better clock for clock than amd, since m2 isnt really bringing any significant changes and a mobile processor in yonah w/o the architectural improvements of conroe can already almost keep up with the x2 of equaivalent clock speed. the funny part might be that amd might have a clock speed advantage, out of all things, against conroe if the 65nm process for amd is as good as they say. this certainly made my day a little brighter.
 

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Merom has been known to be way ahead of schedule for a while, but this is the first time specifics on Conroe have been given. Merom itself was taped out in June.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27812

The proximity of Merom makes me wonder if I should get a labtop based on Yonah especially if in 6 months Merom comes out with higher clock speeds, double the cache, better power management, redesigned architecture, and 64-bit support.

I just wonder how Conroe will be speced and marketed. Its supposed to use a 1066MHz FSB, but its available in 2MB and 4MB versions. The 4MB might just be for the Extreme Edition. However, there are rumours that Intel will be switching to a AMD-like marketing scheme where doubling the cache counts as 200MHz or something like that. I've always found that annoying since it usually isn't the case. Hopefully the Extreme Editions will have a 1333MHz FSB since Woodcrest supports it as well as the i975 validation chipset that The Inquirer tested. Bandwidth doesn't seem as important for the Pentium M architecture though if a Yonah on the 667MHz bus can keep up with an equivalent clocked X2 with an integrated memory controller.
 
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according to that it will be released at 2.93ghz which actually makes sense, and if you ask me conroe might be like a AMD K7 (Thunderbird) 1400 vs Intel P3 (Tualatin) 1400 - same thing - intel has a better manafacturing process, more cache, colder chip BUT a slower FSB (or not as good as AMDs solution at the time), ah well we'll have to see.