yeah this is true, but currently 754 is were im at. I need to start somewere and here is what i have to work with for now. I want to get my feet wet, im may not be able to get very far on it, but would like to start so i can get some exp on it. It would be nice if i was able to get the cpu wich runs at 2.0 ghz to overclock to 2.1. I want it to be a bit unstable so i can learn a little on what i need to work on to get the cpu to overclock a little more , and be stable. Have you done any overclocking at all on yours. I have good ram, corsair xms pc 3200 ram, 2 sticks. ill start a little on it once i get the new case fan. the only thing im not sure on in this overclocking thing, is when things start to get unstable , how do you know what to do next to stable it out some more. how do you know if you need to up the voltage on cpu or ram, loosen the ram timmings, and so on.