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Movie based on islam

hi guys,
I am ill since I have heard that Americans making fun of others religion but in fact they are ENTIRELY wrong fully going on the wrong path did you people ever realized "how you are born" there is only GOD and there is no god but ALLAH, I loved america too much where as I am pakistani as you people already informed about that movie which is based on ISLAM, in which americans did very worst and cheap work, My request is for President Obama "kick out those from who making fun of others religion" and Obama is muslim too watch his video on youtube in which he perform Assalam o lykom!

Why did america done this why? God gave them too power too knowlegde and they are still on the wrong path!! :(

I have seen there alot native americans muslims I swear they will be alotttttttttttt and forever happier after death. Even in U.S army google it if you are not trust.

ALLAH is the creator of whole universe and that is why he send prohpet Muhammad (S.A.W.W) becuase to teach us how to live how to dress, and how to become a best mankind like he was. Memorize it those people is not safer in this universe who make fun of islam HELL is waiting for those. I swear thanks god i am muslim.
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  1. Before this gets closed, I think on NPR some journalist made a good point.

    The reason Muslims are mad at America for some poorly made youtube video is because in their countries the government has complete control over what is posted online. Right down to pictures of your family have to be cleared before they can be posted.

    So they assume that because something has been posted onto a site like youtube it has been not only cleared but approved by the government. But in reality any *sshole with a camera and internet access can say whatever they want.
  2. Yeah, I know the whole America isn't involved in the making of this video there 4 or 5 a piece of shitt who did this but look at the ALLAH power the building in which the movie was introduced that buiding destroyed in earthquake amazing the building picture has been posted on facebook.

    But due to those piece of shitt the whole america name getting down and other countries muslim like saudi arabia, egypt, etc burning flag of america becuase they are still on fire me too.
    Obama shoot those bitch out from america pleassssseeee pleasssee
  3. Yeah, I know the whole America isn't involved in the making of this video there 4 or 5 a piece of shitt who did this but look at the ALLAH power the building in which the movie was introduced that buiding destroyed in earthquake amazing the building picture has been posted on facebook.

    But due to those piece of shitt the whole america name getting down and other countries muslim like saudi arabia, egypt, etc burning flag of america becuase they are still on fire me too.
    Obama shoot those bitch out from america pleassssseeee pleasssee
  4. Yeah, I know the whole America isn't involved in the making of this video there 4 or 5 a piece of shitt who did this but look at the ALLAH power the building in which the movie was introduced that buiding destroyed in earthquake amazing the building picture has been posted on facebook.

    But due to those piece of shitt the whole america name getting down and other countries muslim like saudi arabia, egypt, etc burning flag of america becuase they are still on fire me too.
    Obama shoot those bitch out from america pleassssseeee pleasssee
  5. Yeah, I know the whole America isn't involved in the making of this video there 4 or 5 a piece of shitt who did this but look at the ALLAH power the building in which the movie was introduced that buiding destroyed in earthquake amazing the building picture has been posted on facebook.

    But due to those piece of shitt the whole america name getting down and other countries muslim like saudi arabia, egypt, etc burning flag of america becuase they are still on fire me too.
    Obama shoot those bitch out from america pleassssseeee pleasssee
  6. This is why we cant have nice threads.
  7. What about Americans making fun of Jesus? God? Each other: Christians, Jew, Buddhists, and Atheists.

    We can laugh at each other, mock each other...we may get pissed if it gets out of hand, but we just turn our heads and walk away...

    Islam, you make a joke about it...you all of a sudden are an enemy of the state.

    There is talk that Jesus may have had a wife. A wife? Yes, many have been making fun of the finding and making jokes about Jesus and his supposed wife...even Colbert, a publicly declared Catholic.

    I understand that you may have strong feelings about your faith, just as I do with my Christian faith, but I am not called upon by my minister, fellow Christians, or my faith to declare war against those who insult my God.

    That is up to God and them if the Big Guy has any issues.
  8. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    Exactly, nicely put dogman! You know, I think I shouted Jesus Christ at least 3 times just driving home in rush hour today. Will I pay for that? I guess I'll find out when I finally kick it.

    However, as many here know, I don't proclaim to be a Christian, so saying that is like saying What The F**K to me.

    Anyway, my experience with people who proclaim to be Christian, at least where I live, is that most would forgive and say a prayer for the offending person/people responsible for whatever offense short of cold blooded murder. Correct me if I'm wrong please, just my personal experience.

    I don't think I quite understand?
    Explain?
  9. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    Unfortunately for you my friend, we have something in America called freedom. You can't just kick someone out of the country for something they say, think, write, sing, or put in a movie.

    Burn all the American flags you want if it makes you feel better.


    Freedom is not the point but lie is. The movie state some lie about prophet Muhammad(saw). Why? The movie show that He is as a womanizer, a homosexual and a child abuser which is very lie.

    And lie make easier to make someone terrorist and can be hunt down easily.

    When a non-Muslim do bad thing, you called crime and when a Muslim do crime you called terrorism.

    Thats how you criticize.

    Even big star or people case against their disrespect in society. They protect their respect. So why cant we protect our prophet's respect from lie? US government should also protect from lie. Lie brings war.

    Lie is not tolerable. Make anything with true but not with lie.
  10. mubin said:
    Freedom is not the point but lie is. The movie state some lie about prophet Muhammad(saw). Why? The movie show that He is as a womanizer, a homosexual and a child abuser which is very lie.

    And lie make easier to make someone terrorist and can be hunt down easily.

    When a non-Muslim do bad thing, you called crime and when a Muslim do crime you called terrorism.

    Thats how you criticize.

    Even big star or people case against their disrespect in society. They protect their respect. So why cant we protect our prophet's respect from lie? US government should also protect from lie. Lie brings war.

    Lie is not tolerable. Make anything with true but not with lie.

    What lies?
    I have not stated any lies have I?

    I do not know the back story of Muhammad himself, so I cannot say anything is true or not.

    All I know about they guy is that he claims to have heard Gabriel saying to write what God said. That is it. Oh, and the fact he used violence to convert people of the Arab and Persian lands.

    If anyone has lied about your faith, say so. Do not go out in the streets and attack a nation because of an international event!

    Terrorism is a political term. It no longer has meaning. There are Christan terrorist, and even Atheist terrorists.

    A terrorist is a person who commits an act that provokes a feeling of terror on a person or group.

    I agree, as humans we are not to lie. It is a civic, social, and spiritual duty to be truthful; but acting out in violence does not lessen falsehood: It provokes animosity to others.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    I think atheists are wing-nuts...but I do not hate them, I do not threaten them when they insult my God.

    You claim to be a religion of peace. I do not see this in your people. I do not need the US government to tell me your ways, you do them in the eyes of your brothers.

    Ishmael and Issac will always be at odds.
  11. dogman_1234 said:
    I don't think I quite understand?
    Explain?

    I like to think of it this way.
    If your brother or sister is doing wrong, you hope and pray they learn and stop doing this.
    Same as taking the Lords name in vain, or any other sin, big or small.

    I too understand the lack of understanding, and also the lack of faith many have.
    I can only say to this, he who is without sin, cast the first stone
  12. I'm leaving this loonworthy ranting thread open just to show the extremists that we are happy to cop a bit of abuse.

    I checked and baby jesus is not crying.

    :)
  13. Yes

    Religious fanaticism is not true

    This is a result of anger
    But

    There is no freedom of speech in insulting the prophets and messengers


    Responsible must be punished


    Only
    And all assistants

    For that movie
    And not to repeat this again
    If you want a peaceful coexistence

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_XpOeNtfVQ

    -----Defense of the prophets and apostles
    The duty of every Muslim

    All are equal

    285. . The Messenger (Muhammad ) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)."
    It ought to punish any person who speaks bad verbal or picture the Holy Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

    Because it is from God
    God says in the Holy Qur'an
    (33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
    (34) Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

    Talk about the extent of the limits of God, and put Sharia means the process of criminal crucial during her talk about the limits of Allah Almighty, as in this verse, in order to maintain security and prevent the evil souls of the rush away from Noazaaha own deviant, which pushes toward killing and looting, banditry and scheming of Islam and Muslims, and spread chaos and destruction, and corruption in the lives of the people, and so on ... To clarify the issue for the punishment of Allah and His Messenger

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_d-vgk1F0g
    This is violence and intolerance

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mba1tpDxJ78

    You are in this way
    Put yourself in the base against Allah and His Messenger

    Can you endurance
    And
    fights God?
  14. eninn said:
    Yes

    Religious fanaticism is not true

    This is a result of anger
    But

    There is no freedom of speech in insulting the prophets and messengers


    Responsible must be punished



    Only
    And all assistants

    For that movie
    And not to repeat this again
    If you want a peaceful coexistence



    Not going to happen, that is absolutely off the table. There will be no restrictions on free speech even when dealing with Muhammed and negative criticisms. That is the western worlds philosophy.

    Now the real question is what are you (Islam) going to do about it? Promote violence? Or act like adults?
  15. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    Terrorist vs. Criminal

    A criminal is a person who engages in illegal activity for personal gain.

    A terroritst is a person or persons, who engage in violent, deadly acts to affect wide sweeping political or cultural change.

    @ mubin

    Who determines what a lie is? You? Me? God? See my point? It is not up to man to determine what is and what is not a lie and what the punishment should be. You mubin and other Muslims that are calling for the hanging of this film producer are usurping God's judgement in my opinion.

    You would be better off, forgiving this film producer and praying for his soul rather than killing him.


    Terrorist is a person who do some terrifying thing to make us fear, so they gain control over us easily.

    No, we cant determine which is lie but also cant make story about someone as our wish. Do we?

    For generations Muslim follow His character and our Muslim ancestor saw Muhammad (saw) what He did. And we are the descendants know the truth about Muhammad (saw)

    My point is show us prove that is shown in the film. Where does the film producer know about Muhammad (saw) is homosexual, He has hypersex?

    He can share with us about evidence.

    If film producer realize that he did mistake, say sorry and stop this lie against prophet Muhammad (saw) then it will dismiss. We will pray for him, no doubt.

    He may produce anti-Islam or Anti-Muslim film for his freedom of speech but cannot lie about Prophet Muhammad (saw).

    Quote:

    dogman_1234 said:

    What lies?
    I have not stated any lies have I?

    I do not know the back story of Muhammad himself, so I cannot say anything is true or not.


    I am not talking about you but about the film producer. If he dont know the back story about Muhammad(saw) as you then why he produce this film? He dont even know about Muhammad's (saw) character, so the content of the film is totally lie.
  16. I swear unlimited times that film producer is wrong...
    MUHAMMAD was the best mankind that is why ALLAH send him to the earth
  17. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    Here's the problem. The film producer may believe the film to be the truth. You say it is lies but the producer says its the truth. Who decides who is correct?

    See the problem here?

    Now we are at the point where the alleged film producer is claiming he didn't make the movie at all. If that turns out to be the case, and this guy is 'punished', won't the punishers feel kind of stupid?


    But my point is why he thinks that the film is truth? Based on what? His garbage head?

    We believe film is lie because we knows from our Muslim ancestor, by the book, by the history.

    I want to see the proof of film content so i can believe too. Tell him to show us from where he get those lie.

    I or we Muslim dont decides but believes in proof, in evidence. We dont imagine like the film producer.
  18. I got 26 seconds into it befor wanting to puke.

    I've had feedback from others who say I did pretty well...

    Nevertheless ... if someone wants to make a bad movie we just need to avoid watching it ... life is only so long.

    Just imagine watching Expendibles 2 and everyone has a fish instead of a gun and it is dubbed over with the sountrack from a Kagagoogoo album.

    My 26 seconds was that bad.

    I fail to see why they got so upset when they should have know how upset we got watching something that bad.

    I would have rather have watched Charles and Diannas Wedding ...
  19. wanamingo said:
    Not going to happen, that is absolutely off the table. There will be no restrictions on free speech even when dealing with Muhammed and negative criticisms. That is the western worlds philosophy.

    Now the real question is what are you (Islam) going to do about it? Promote violence? Or act like adults?


    ------Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
    115. "Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?"

    116. So Exalted be Allah, the True King, La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Lord of the Supreme Throne!

    117. And whoever invokes (or worships), besides Allah, any other ilah (god), of whom he has no proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord. Surely! Al-Kafirun (the disbelievers in Allah and in the Oneness of Allah, polytheists, pagans, idolaters, etc.) Will not be successful.

    118. And say (O Muhammad): "My Lord! Forgive and have mercy, for You are the Best of those who show mercy!"
    The only solution to all
    The Oneness of God
    And follow the path of the prophets and messengers

    Because it is the right way

    This is the goal of human existence on earth

    And finally
    Everyone will die
    Must be good and do good deeds in this world

    You are responsible for the all your actions
    allah will ask you about all what you did
    Both small and large
    Must be prepared

    Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
    (12) Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind, and all things We have enumerated in a clear register


    (13) And [for] every person We have imposed his fate upon his neck, and We will produce for him on the Day of Resurrection a record which he will encounter spread open

    (49) And the record [of deeds] will be placed [open], and you will see the criminals fearful of that within it, and they will say, "Oh, woe to us! What is this book that leaves nothing small or great except that it has enumerated it? "And they will find what they did present [before them]. And your Lord does injustice to no one


    ----Allah alone is the creator and manufacturer of mankind
    Knows either useful for us and bad for us

    Adam and Eve, peace be upon them

    Knows by
    Should not be eating from the tree
    God warned them of doing this
    Because it is a sin


    After God created Adam and ordered the angels to prostrate to him and happened Kafr Satan and sin - God Almighty wanted to exercise Adam his mission on earth. But before the exercise of his mission insert God in practical experience from the curriculum, which will be followed by man on earth, and seduction that would be inflicted by the devil. God Almighty's mercy him he did not want Adam begins his mission to exist on a theoretical basis, because there is a difference between talking theory and experiment

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxLScsoYyY


    ----If I traveled to France
    Must be committed to the laws of the French
    In order to protect myself from punishment

    Therefore

    Foreign countries dealing with Muslims
    And violate the most important red line

    You do not want to achieve justice and punishment was wrong

    So
    Mistakes in you

    You want chaos and hatred
    And not calm things down and end it
    And apologize


    You are in this way
    Put yourself in the base against Allah and His Messenger

    Can you endurance
    And
    fights Allah?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_d-vgk1F0g
  20. I honestly dont know how to respond because I have no idea what you are saying.

    If anything you should leave me to Allah, he (according to you) will send me to hell. Isnt that punishment enough already? Knowing that I will end up in hell? Why does anyone have to be murdered?
  21. eninn said:
    ------Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
    115. "Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?"

    116. So Exalted be Allah, the True King, La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Lord of the Supreme Throne!

    117. And whoever invokes (or worships), besides Allah, any other ilah (god), of whom he has no proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord. Surely! Al-Kafirun (the disbelievers in Allah and in the Oneness of Allah, polytheists, pagans, idolaters, etc.) Will not be successful.

    118. And say (O Muhammad): "My Lord! Forgive and have mercy, for You are the Best of those who show mercy!"
    The only solution to all
    The Oneness of God
    And follow the path of the prophets and messengers

    Because it is the right way

    This is the goal of human existence on earth

    And finally
    Everyone will die
    Must be good and do good deeds in this world

    You are responsible for the all your actions
    allah will ask you about all what you did
    Both small and large
    Must be prepared

    Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
    (12) Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind, and all things We have enumerated in a clear register


    (13) And [for] every person We have imposed his fate upon his neck, and We will produce for him on the Day of Resurrection a record which he will encounter spread open

    (49) And the record [of deeds] will be placed [open], and you will see the criminals fearful of that within it, and they will say, "Oh, woe to us! What is this book that leaves nothing small or great except that it has enumerated it? "And they will find what they did present [before them]. And your Lord does injustice to no one


    ----Allah alone is the creator and manufacturer of mankind
    Knows either useful for us and bad for us

    Adam and Eve, peace be upon them

    Knows by
    Should not be eating from the tree
    God warned them of doing this
    Because it is a sin


    After God created Adam and ordered the angels to prostrate to him and happened Kafr Satan and sin - God Almighty wanted to exercise Adam his mission on earth. But before the exercise of his mission insert God in practical experience from the curriculum, which will be followed by man on earth, and seduction that would be inflicted by the devil. God Almighty's mercy him he did not want Adam begins his mission to exist on a theoretical basis, because there is a difference between talking theory and experiment

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxLScsoYyY


    ----If I traveled to France
    Must be committed to the laws of the French
    In order to protect myself from punishment

    Therefore

    Foreign countries dealing with Muslims
    And violate the most important red line

    You do not want to achieve justice and punishment was wrong

    So
    Mistakes in you

    You want chaos and hatred
    And not calm things down and end it
    And apologize


    You are in this way
    Put yourself in the base against Allah and His Messenger

    Can you endurance
    And
    fights Allah?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_d-vgk1F0g

    GREAT words my sweet brother, We know there are many religions but ISLAM is the most valueable, true and respectful religion.
    eninn where you are from?

    According to Saudi Arabia there people are exactly following MUHAMMAD (S.A.W.W) what he done! That is why ALLAH gift them most luxurious country, arabia people are the only who are the most HAPPIEST people in the world because they are the true muslims and ALLAH keep people like those much happy.

    Did america police arrest the film producer or not?
  22. Micheal jackson is the best example why did he converted to islam? Was he wrong? He was american too.

    Mike Tyson is another one example were they wrong to converted to islam han?
  23. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    No, he was not arrested. He committed no crime.

    Then you are with HIM hmm, am i right.
    He commited no crime rather he commited A BBIIIGGGESSTT crime you are still not getting my question why did he make this movie he has nothing to do with MUHAMMAD. If MUHAMMAD was wrong ALLAH will punish him but no he was absolutely right.
  24. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    Michael Jackson converted to Islam? That's news to me.

    Mike Tyson converted to Islam while he was in prison to save his cornhole from being reemed on a daily basis.

    It is only new to you not to the whole america cause your mind is negetive to islam.
    mike tyson is still a true muslim yes he was a prisoner but later he realize the fear of ALLAH and after that AL-HAMDULILLAH he perform HAJJ and UMRAH in saudi Arabia. More than half of hollywood actors/actress has been converted to islam and you are still sleeping.
  25. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    Sorry, I don't know the guy. I can't tell him anything.

    He has every right to make whatever movie he wants. Whether it be truth or fiction.


    Well, then what is his point? Lie against Muhammad(saw) to show the world that the Muslims are terrorist?

    This kind of lie makes Islam warlike and violent. And your country did many war based on this kind of lie.

    Look at the Burmese Muslim how they are hunted down and no one cares. Why? Because they believe in lie. I didnt hear any single word from your country against it. But USA always try to intrude in Muslim country for humanity. Now where is there humanity? Everything is lie.

    And why the producer choose prophet of Islam in the time of anti-Islam aggression? In the time where people like you believes Muslims are terrorist? To inspire it?

    Whats his intention? Making people believes in more lie? So people will hate Muslim more?
  26. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    I couldn't begin to tell you why he made the film. Maybe it's because of the persecution of the Coptic Christians in Egypt. Maybe his sister was stoned to death by Muslims, who knows?

    Apparently he has a big beef with Islam.

    Or......Oh I know! It was The Mossad who made the film to incite the Muslims in the region to bring about World War III. How about that?


    Then why bring Muhammad (saw) in the film? He can insult Muslims but why prophet? Prophet Muhammad (saw) loved everyone of us. Including Muslim and non-Muslim. Every human living in this planet is His ummat. He was always neutral to non-Muslim and never want us to dis-respect to non-Muslim. Why some people just insult Him with lie? So people get wrong information about Muhammad (saw).

    Muslim dont need oil like USA. They have more than enough. They dont need a war against non-Muslim.
  27. xtreme5 said:
    MUHAMMAD was the best mankind that is why ALLAH send him to the earth

    Nope, Jesus was the best man who ever lived.

    He was the Saviour of the World. He died for my sins as well as yours.
    He was the Son of God. He was Him.

    Jesus teaches this to us all:

    'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' (Matthew 22:37-39)

    For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

    He, the Christ, teaches us a message of love, not war.
    To turn the other cheek. Love one another.

    We are all brothers in Christ, who died for us all.

    To bring hate is sin, to wage war is unholy.

    I love you all. I wish we would all be together in peace.
  28. Oldmangamer_73 said:

    My answer: It was made to 'help' incite the violence that was already planned for the 9/11 anniversary; sparking outrage throughout the Middle East which has now spread in to parts of Europe. In my opinion this obscure film was used as propaganda to incite thousands of ignorant masses to commit acts of violence. This violence will not end soon. Just as I said last year, the violence will grow. 1400 years of history prove me correct.


    Thats the thing i am talking. Whatever there is violence planned or not for 9/11 anniversary but the producer choose prophet instead of Osama Bin Laden for incite. Original movie was named as Innocence of Osama Bin Laden where Laden had to be shown. But producer intentionally choose Muhammad (saw) to insult Him. Because he knows we hate lie and insulting our respectful prophet.

    He made this lie for inciting and thats why lie is a sin and not tolerable. Isnt this clear he is spreading lie against prophet Muhammad (saw) in purpose? Do you think it is his opinion spread lie on purpose?

    Even a movie star/honorable person ask for justice against his/her disrespect. So why cant we ask for justice for our beloved prophet Muhammad's (saw) insult?

    Quote:
    My answer: To be cotinued. Friday night and all. ;)


    Guess you are missing Rebecca Black's Friday. :)
  29. dogman_1234 said:
    Nope, Jesus was the best man who ever lived.

    He was the Saviour of the World. He died for my sins as well as yours.
    He was the Son of God. He was Him.

    Jesus teaches this to us all:

    'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' (Matthew 22:37-39)

    For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

    He, the Christ, teaches us a message of love, not war.
    To turn the other cheek. Love one another.

    We are all brothers in Christ, who died for us all.

    To bring hate is sin, to wage war is unholy.

    I love you all. I wish we would all be together in peace.


    We are not arguing about your believes for Jesus was the best human and never going to insult Him to hurt you. Cause we know about Jesus, who is prophet of Christianity. But some of you criticize Islam ans its prophet badly. No reason to insult prophet for us.

    Do you think it is a good idea to insult Jesus for the crime commit in Iraq by Christean US Marine? Of course no.

    And same in Islam. Not to war, its unholy. Try to make peace and help others even to non-Muslim. No matter if he/she is believer or not. Everyone is brother as everyone is child of Adam, the first human.

    I wish your hopes comes true. We will be in peace by not hating each other.

    Once in city of Ta'if, prophet Muhammad (saw) gone to spread Islam for peace. The citizen to ta'if throw stone at Him and blood came out of His holy body. Angels of mountain comes to aid Muhammad(saw) and asked Him to destroy Ta'if by mixing two mountain situated in two side of Ta'if. So the Ta'if will be smash under mountain-bed. But the kind prophet Muhammad (saw) show His kindness. He said, "If i letting you destroy them, then whom do i teach Islam." He pray to kind creator Allah for mercy instead on Ta'if and now the whole Ta'if is a land of peaceful Muslim. All love Muhammad (saw) for what He did for us.

    If we were asked to destroy our enemy, by angel, we would be very happy to took such offer cause we like destruction. No?
  30. Another possibility here
    God may have truth in many writings, but man has misinterpreted them from the beginning of their writing.
    If this is so, God will not forget, regardless of who owns the truth, as God is the truth.
    So, tho an evil man (not saying this movie maker was evil) may get away with wrongdoing, he wont escape God
  31. mubin said:
    We are not arguing about your believes for Jesus was the best human and never going to insult Him to hurt you. Cause we know about Jesus, who is prophet of Christianity. But some of you criticize Islam ans its prophet badly. No reason to insult prophet for us.

    Do you think it is a good idea to insult Jesus for the crime commit in Iraq by Christean US Marine? Of course no.

    And same in Islam. Not to war, its unholy. Try to make peace and help others even to non-Muslim. No matter if he/she is believer or not. Everyone is brother as everyone is child of Adam, the first human.

    I wish your hopes comes true. We will be in peace by not hating each other.

    Once in city of Ta'if, prophet Muhammad (saw) gone to spread Islam for peace. The citizen to ta'if throw stone at Him and blood came out of His holy body. Angels of mountain comes to aid Muhammad(saw) and asked Him to destroy Ta'if by mixing two mountain situated in two side of Ta'if. So the Ta'if will be smash under mountain-bed. But the kind prophet Muhammad (saw) show His kindness. He said, "If i letting you destroy them, then whom do i teach Islam." He pray to kind creator Allah for mercy instead on Ta'if and now the whole Ta'if is a land of peaceful Muslim. All love Muhammad (saw) for what He did for us.

    If we were asked to destroy our enemy, by angel, we would be very happy to took such offer cause we like destruction. No?

    Jesus was/is the Christ. He is God. He is the father.

    You fail to understand that you claim to be a religion of peace, yet all I see and hear is death to those who disown Islam.

    You guys get worked up about Muhammad being some great god. He is a mortal man as you and I are.

    We here in the US have Atheists. They criticize us and our Christ. Mostly us. They make fun of Jesus, say things that our hurtful, yet we do not have Christians who go around the world to protest that anyone against the Lord should be put down.

    I would also like to point out that your Muhammad also killed people who did not convert to Islam.

    What did Christ say to the 12 Apostles before and after He died?

    To tell of the good news, that is what...not to go out and murder innocent people for not being Christian. In fact the opposite happened. Many died converting to Christianity.

    Look, I know you are trying to shine a light on the goodness of your faith, but as long as you let your religious leader corrupt you and control your emotions, you will never evolve as a religion of peace.
  32. mubin said:
    Then why bring Muhammad (saw) in the film? He can insult Muslims but why prophet? Prophet Muhammad (saw) loved everyone of us. Including Muslim and non-Muslim. Every human living in this planet is His ummat. He was always neutral to non-Muslim and never want us to dis-respect to non-Muslim. Why some people just insult Him with lie? So people get wrong information about Muhammad (saw).

    Muslim dont need oil like USA. They have more than enough. They dont need a war against non-Muslim.

    +10
  33. This is not a first time that americans insulting MUHAMMAD it is approximately 20 time they are doing this, WHY? why are they not against jesus,christ,buddha these are also religions WHY are they always against ISLAM? We muslims countries are higher in numbers as compared to non-muslims countries.

    As I stated above there are alot native american muslims why does they not got action on that movie here in pakistan condition is going bad day by day due to strike.

    oldmangamer do you know the building in which that movie was introduced it destroyed with earthquake google it. Because ALLAH knows better.
  34. dogman_1234 said:
    Jesus was/is the Christ. He is God. He is the father.

    You fail to understand that you claim to be a religion of peace, yet all I see and hear is death to those who disown Islam.

    You guys get worked up about Muhammad being some great god. He is a mortal man as you and I are.

    We here in the US have Atheists. They criticize us and our Christ. Mostly us. They make fun of Jesus, say things that our hurtful, yet we do not have Christians who go around the world to protest that anyone against the Lord should be put down.

    I would also like to point out that your Muhammad also killed people who did not convert to Islam.

    What did Christ say to the 12 Apostles before and after He died?

    To tell of the good news, that is what...not to go out and murder innocent people for not being Christian. In fact the opposite happened. Many died converting to Christianity.

    Look, I know you are trying to shine a light on the goodness of your faith, but as long as you let your religious leader corrupt you and control your emotions, you will never evolve as a religion of peace.


    You make some good points.

    As an atheist I look at most religions with scorn and some anxiety, particularly those who cannot handle criticism.

    The Christians, Jews, and most of the rest don't bat an eyelid when someone puts a funny cartoon up about one of their saviours or prophets ... most people laugh ... and a few old ladies complain at most.

    Thats a mature response to criticism ... like I have said before - religion should be a personal thing.

    If someone else criticises your religion do you not turn the other cheek? Most do.

    Muslim extremists (note I clarify my point not to include mainstream muslims who by and large don't see what the fuss is all about) use any criticism as an excuse to go on a rampage.

    Frankly that's not good enough.

    I should add that here in Australia as a result of the riots last week in sydney all of the mainstream Muslim Imans have banded together to stop any further nonsense and have worked positively in their communities to stop this sort of rubbish ... commendable and a credit to them.

    Likewise in Lybia today a similar result ... the extremists are faring poorly.

    Enough is enough.

    If I see any posts recommending violence as an appropriate religious response the offender will be permabanned.
  35. dogman_1234 said:
    Jesus was/is the Christ. He is God. He is the father.

    You fail to understand that you claim to be a religion of peace, yet all I see and hear is death to those who disown Islam.

    You guys get worked up about Muhammad being some great god. He is a mortal man as you and I are.

    We here in the US have Atheists. They criticize us and our Christ. Mostly us. They make fun of Jesus, say things that our hurtful, yet we do not have Christians who go around the world to protest that anyone against the Lord should be put down.

    I would also like to point out that your Muhammad also killed people who did not convert to Islam.

    What did Christ say to the 12 Apostles before and after He died?

    To tell of the good news, that is what...not to go out and murder innocent people for not being Christian. In fact the opposite happened. Many died converting to Christianity.

    Look, I know you are trying to shine a light on the goodness of your faith, but as long as you let your religious leader corrupt you and control your emotions, you will never evolve as a religion of peace.


    Looks like you got lie about Islam and Muhammad (saw). How did you know Muhammad (saw) killed people for convert to Islam? From people like film producer who makes lie against Muhammad(saw)?

    And thats why we are against lie and insult about our prophet Muhammad (saw). We have to protect lie, so people like you will not believe in lie.

    Did you read about the city of Ta'if i posted?

    Quote:

    REYNOD said:

    If I see any posts recommending violence as an appropriate religious response the offender will be permabanned.


    Asking for justice from US government is consider as violence recommending to you? Looks like you are the only guy here who is extremely anti-Islam and believing in lie.
  36. Oldmangamer_73 said:
    No, I have no intention of watching this poorly made, idiotic film. And neither should you watch it. It's simply not worth my time.

    Hmm, so do you think USA government will remove that movie from youtube, look mate we are muslims same you are from other religion do you ever realize if someone making fun of your religion wouldn't you will be getting anger, So that is very bad idea to making fun of other religions, The guy who created that movie will be in HELL after death or if you guys not believing that time is coming soon and ALLAH knows better. :??:
  37. Ask from native american muslim and question him "why are you muslim" and listen him precisely rather America is not a muslim country besides there are majority if muslims in america, because they believe in ALLAH and MUHAMMAD.
  38. A minutes ago I watched a news in which IRAQ government stated that "if US government does not remove the video then 3rd world war should be start" think due to one PERSON the whole america is going to be in dangerous situation and muslims do anything for MUHAMMAD.
  39. you just gotta love a religion that says its tolerant then turns round and beheads any 1 who dare say anything that the believers think is ha-ram. the guy at the american embasy had nothing to do with the film. but i dodnt see any outcry for him being killed... oh yeah he's not a good muslim.... lol thats a laugh. 99.9999% of muslims aint good muslims.
    they want a world war where they think there religion will become the dominant religion of the new world... sorry thats not gonna happen if anything they will only get millions if not billions of there followers incinerated in a nuclear fire. oh look you you just managed to murder a 3rd of mankind in the name of your god... well done have 72 virgins...
    whats that? there all men.... ah well, we all make mistakes....
    after all we are only human... maybe next time you should learn to forgive instead of spouting hate....

    facts: the guy that made the film isnt even american he's egyptian.
    hes a coptic Christian that was self exiled from his own country for being a Christian.
    he left his home because muslims were and are crusifying burning and intimidating any 1 with a religion different to there own...
    the guys film although a poor attempt at film making is a direct response to the violence he was served up from muslims. for no other reason than he was christian...
    the blame for this move lies not with the film maker but the people who hounded the guy out of his home and country for nothing more than having a different opinion...
    oh whats that you dont like the fact you the muslim world are responsible for this film being made... well next time if your more tolerant maybe you wouldn't piss off so many people with your twisted interpretation of an ideology...
  40. xtreme5 said:
    A minutes ago I watched a news in which IRAQ government stated that "if US government does not remove the video then 3rd world war should be start" think due to one PERSON the whole america is going to be in dangerous situation and muslims do anything for MUHAMMAD.


    I can't let this one go by :)

    Who's going to start this so called 3rd world war? Some camel humping sheisthole of a third world country? Gimme a break. It'd be over sometime between breakfast and lunch and probably wouldn't take more than 2 (3 at most) carrier groups and a couple flights of Buf's, Spirits, & Bones. Might throw in a few sub launched Tomahawks for good measure. Then I say we pave over the whole thing, stripe it, and use it as a parking lot.
  41. HEXiT said:
    you just gotta love a religion that says its tolerant then turns round and beheads any 1 who dare say anything that the believers think is ha-ram. the guy at the american embasy had nothing to do with the film. but i dodnt see any outcry for him being killed... oh yeah he's not a good muslim.... lol thats a laugh. 99.9999% of muslims aint good muslims.
    they want a world war where they think there religion will become the dominant religion of the new world... sorry thats not gonna happen if anything they will only get millions if not billions of there followers incinerated in a nuclear fire. oh look you you just managed to murder a 3rd of mankind in the name of your god... well done have 72 virgins...
    whats that? there all men.... ah well, we all make mistakes....
    after all we are only human... maybe next time you should learn to forgive instead of spouting hate....

    facts: the guy that made the film isnt even american he's egyptian.
    hes a coptic Christian that was self exiled from his own country for being a Christian.
    he left his home because muslims were and are crusifying burning and intimidating any 1 with a religion different to there own...
    the guys film although a poor attempt at film making is a direct response to the violence he was served up from muslims. for no other reason than he was christian...
    the blame for this move lies not with the film maker but the people who hounded the guy out of his home and country for nothing more than having a different opinion...
    oh whats that you dont like the fact you the muslim world are responsible for this film being made... well next time if your more tolerant maybe you wouldn't piss off so many people with your twisted interpretation of an ideology...


    So you do asked 99.9999% of Muslim about world war and they answer yes. Do you? Who is doing the latest war and last time when did you see war is done by Muslim country against non-Muslim country?

    Please read the previous post about the film.
  42. lol thats the only point you pick up on not the fack people are getting burned alive stoned and crusified... thanx you just told me everything i needed to know about you and your beliefs...

    you really dont have any idea do you... its not who started it its who want to put a stop to it.
    Afghanistan america went there to find alquieda and binladen reason for going there 911 attacks on america...
    yes george bush used 911 to implement his own agenda to finish off iraq and sadam but he also put a stop to the persecution of the people in the north or iraq of which over 1 million had been gased with nerve and other agents.
    personally i never thought this was about freeing iraq but more about oil but if muslims hadnt strapped bombs to themselves and flew plains into buildings there would have been nor iraq invasion.

    the whole point is you are being lied to, binladen himself put it in words you can understand. the whole point of the 911 attacks wasnt to get america to fight alquaida but to fight islam.

    last time a muslim country attacked a none muslim 1. about 2 years ago.
    lebenon's missle attacks on israel a bit further back muslim uprisings in host countries because they wanted sharia law, countrys such a chechnia, croatia the list caan go on and on... the root of the problem isnt the fact that islam is a religion its the fact that islamic leaders are using it as a tool of power to increase there own wealth and power in there own countries. all pointing at america and saying that is the big evil when infact the biggest evil is themselves who abuse there position of infuence and convince people like you the the west is evil...
    we aint evil. we want to protect and educate our children, provide for our families and have the freedom to make our own choices in life.
    you on the other hand have the freedom to do as your told.
    you read what your allowed to read
    and you swallow it hook line and sinker... (fish on a line)...
  43. If your word is correct then why USA said nothing about Burmese Muslim hunt? Why they remain silence?

    Israel started this war first. They keep attacking Palestine without making peace. They dont even listen to USA for making peace with Palestine. Whole world knows it. No matter if Israel is attacked by Lebanon.

    I dont believes the whole America is evil but their politician are. They war on purpose. In 9/11 W. Bush planted bomb under twin-tower and two building collapsed. No mistake. Even without plane crashed, building would collapsed just like we saw.
  44. mubin said:
    If your word is correct then why USA said nothing about Burmese Muslim hunt? Why they remain silence?

    Israel started this war first. They keep attacking Palestine without making peace. They dont even listen to USA for making peace with Palestine. Whole world knows it. No matter if Israel is attacked by Lebanon.

    I dont believes the whole America is evil but their politician are. They war on purpose. In 9/11 W. Bush planted bomb under twin-tower and two building collapsed. No mistake. Even without plane crashed, building would collapsed just like we saw.

    That is a load of bullshit right there.

    The fact that Bush caused 9/11 is a complete fabrication by US conspiracy theorists.

    You lied about my president. What should I do to you?

    The fact you say that Bush had prior knowledge is absurd...

    Planes are not mead of titanium, they are mad of aluminium...and low melt point metal.

    Kerosene may burn, but try burning a huge pile of wood and you will see how hot it gets. Kerosene can combust and create a huge increase in ambient temperature...enough to ignite anything around it.

    Building 7 had weak fire retardant on the steel frames. Steel can be weakened by heat, but not melt.

    WTC 7 fell due to metal fatigue of the main support.


    Your baseless assumptions that the US itself is after the muslim community is also absurd. Read up on the First Barbary War. who provoked that war? Not the US.
  45. From Wikipedia:

    In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

    It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
  46. http://www.smh.com.au/world/pakistani-minister-puts-bounty-on-antiislam-filmmakers-head-20120923-26elx.html

    mubin:

    Quote :
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    REYNOD said:

    If I see any posts recommending violence as an appropriate religious response the offender will be permabanned.


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    Asking for justice from US government is consider as violence recommending to you? Looks like you are the only guy here who is extremely anti-Islam and believing in lie.

    I'd like to add I am in Australia and have no affiliation with the US Govt or their minions ... though I count many US citizens as friends. I just moderate here as a volunteer. The site is not even owned by a US company ... its multinational with offices in 8 countries and the CEO is a French dude with an impeccable haircut and suit ... and a good sense of humour.
  47. Theres a faction that believes certain things, allows for these things to be in print, on TV.
    These people make money on the backs of the witless, as they dupe them into believing such things as the government blasted the towers, never landed on the moon etc.
    Not, I propose to you, dont be duped, as an Egyptian makes a movie, Muslims hate it, and somehow the US is to change its laws and its also somehow their fault.
    Please see what Im saying, as both of these ideas are wrong, and certainly not to go to war over, kill over, or even hate about.

    And no, war is not good, no matter how well you do it
  48. dogman_1234 said:
    That is a load of bullshit right there.

    The fact that Bush caused 9/11 is a complete fabrication by US conspiracy theorists.

    You lied about my president. What should I do to you?

    The fact you say that Bush had prior knowledge is absurd...

    Planes are not mead of titanium, they are mad of aluminium...and low melt point metal.

    Kerosene may burn, but try burning a huge pile of wood and you will see how hot it gets. Kerosene can combust and create a huge increase in ambient temperature...enough to ignite anything around it.

    Building 7 had weak fire retardant on the steel frames. Steel can be weakened by heat, but not melt.

    WTC 7 fell due to metal fatigue of the main support.


    Your baseless assumptions that the US itself is after the muslim community is also absurd. Read up on the First Barbary War. who provoked that war? Not the US.


    You lied about about my prophet. And what should i do to you? When you lied, you say 'freedom of speech'. You making me laugh.

    Whatever, i didnt lie. Now see my point:

    If plane crashed caused WTC fell, what could happen? The plane hit between 93rd and 99th floor. So between these two floor everything was crushed. Then what would happen? The floor above 99th will collapse on 93rd/92nd floor. Then there will be a chain of collapse like, 92 on 91, 91 on 90, 90 on 89, 89 on 88.........10 on 9, 9 on 8.......the whole building eventually. Destruction from above. WTC should be collapse like this from plane crash.

    But i didnt see this on video. I see just the opposite. Destruction from below, 9th floor on 8th, 10 on 9, 11 on 10...........89 on 88, 90 on 89, 91 on 90, 92 on 91......eventually the whole building. This is what i see in video. Plane crash dont cause destruction from below unless there is plane crash on below or bomb plant below WTC. I consulted my civil engineer friend. No way plane crash caused destruction/collapse from below where it hit above. 6 billion people just swallow it.
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