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I'm bombed. Does that help?

Reply to KingLoftusXII

Guarantee, that missle is launched, it won't get very far. . . we (or Japan) will shoot it down.

Reply to dwellman

Bacon and beer? No that wont work. Damn what would work agianst a communist government?

Reply to dvdpiddy

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we (or Japan) will shoot it down.



I hope they don't. It's only Cali, Disneyworld trumps Disneyland and I don't drink wine.

Reply to KingLoftusXII

Listened to first few chapters of Nothing's Sacred (as read by the author). . . not funny-- witty, but not funny. I was expecting funny.

Reply to dwellman

Try drinking. It helps. Really. :wink:

Reply to KingLoftusXII

No. . . that would make me more like. . . you.

8)

If something like that were to happen, I'd rather not be around to witness it.

Reply to dwellman

Why don't you drink? [/serious Q, trying not to sound like a drunk]

Reply to KingLoftusXII

Never was an "option" i.e. was never presented to me as a behavior to adopt (no one in family or authority figure exhibits). While concurrently surrounded by a host of Mr. Mackey types ("drugs are bad, mkay?" ). Not to mention I was never in a situation where peer preassures could be brought to bear.

I do use spirits and other sundry distilliates in recipies (bananas Foster) from time to time, and I am not opposed to the consumption of alcoholic beverages (by others), per se. I also have and do buy such items as presents and tokens of appreciation.

Another part of the explanation, I guess, is: water is cheaper. Seriously. (When out, I rarely order a beverage with my meal, unless the establisment has an interesting tea.). I come from a long and glorious tradition of cheapskates.


No alcohol, no drugs. . . for that matter no-- well, that's another story.

Reply to dwellman

Logical. I was just curious and wasn't looking to rip ya'.

I actually enjoy the taste of a good beer. Sorry RC. ( :wink: ) The buzz is simply a
side (and welcome) benefit.

Generally I only have a couple on Fri and Sun nights. (work Tues-Fri)

Reply to KingLoftusXII

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Logical. I was just curious and wasn't looking to rip ya'



No apologies or clarifications necessary. I never had to answer that question before.

With the wife its a theology thing, mostly.

Reply to dwellman

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No alcohol, no drugs. . . for that matter no-- well, that's another story.


Do we get another story now?

Reply to JustPlainJef

You want Paul Harvey, not me

Reply to dwellman

No, that's "And now you know the rest of the story", not another story...

Reply to JustPlainJef

Damn. . .

I tried.

Reply to dwellman

You're into moonshine and selling it. Good idea. Never use your own product.

Reply to Riser

Yep. So spill. Why you get no sex?

:twisted:

Reply to JustPlainJef

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Guarantee, that missle is launched, it won't get very far. . . we (or Japan) will shoot it down.



Ahh... um.. It'll get far as long as they don't have any problems wi th it.

The Missile Shield is designed to only intercept missiles in their final stage. The US is currently experimenting with shooting one down shortly after launch.

The two Aegis Destroyers out there right now are there to track and get the final destination figured out long before we have to launch an interceptor (Patriot-III).

Reply to Riser

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The two Aegis Destroyers out there right now are there to track and get the final destination figured out long before we have to launch an interceptor (Patriot-III).



Although it's never been stated (that I've seen) this is the most likely use for the ugly stealth ships Iv'e seen in development...Subs would be perfect, if they weren't allways submerged...An effective "Missle shield" requires on station un-detectable surface ships loaded with "E"lint....

I've yet to see any effective way to hide them from good ole' fashioned binoc's though...The third worlds prying eyes of choice,Fishing trawlers which we can't just board & inspect willy nilly on the high seas...Or in their territorial waters for that matter...Simply blowing them out of the water isn't an option either :(

Alas it's not a perfect world....

Reply to AilingBlackLab

US subs can launch their missiles from 250 ft under water from what I was told. At around 75-100 feet under water, you can't see anything, even the sub, from the air.

Though the problem still remains that you have to have visibility to see the missile.. I believe it's some form of GPS tracking used, meaning triangulation needs to be involved. Thus, 2 Aegis Detroyers, plus the base in Alaska or the other one, giving at least 4 locations. Add in Japan, we have many more locations for tracking.

It wouldn't make sense to launch the missile from a sub.

I think those Aegis destroyers are equipped with that Aussie made machine gun that shoots like 1 million rounds a minute of shrapnel.. so if an incoming cruise missile is heading at it, it throws so much crap out there that it shreds missiles coming. Not sure how it works on torpedos though.

My coworker who spent some time on a US sub said that they were tracking a ship for 30 days at see and their job was to remain unnoticed. After their 30 days, he said they launched a green flare. Immediately following that, another green flare went up. He said another hi-tech US sub had been tracking them for the past 15 days and had to remain undetected.

Scary stuff, considering he said their sub was still hi-tech.. apparently this other one was far more advanced.

Reply to Riser

I still like what Ronbo had us do in the eighties...While he & Gorby were in a summit meeting. Which led to Gorbys quote "Its your Submarines that are the problem!"

We had a Los Angeles class attack sub assigned to every one of The Soviets Ballistic missile subs (which are only effective only if un-detected)
at a pre-determined time Ron Let Gorby supposedly back him into a corner....Then one of Gorbys aides whispers in his ear that every one of their "Boomers" (SSBN's) had just been "Pinged" simultaneously all over the globe. Basicly stating we can see you but you can't see us.


Glasnost & the fall of the the Berlin wall soon followed :wink:

Reply to AilingBlackLab

Yeah.. he was a true President. When I hear President, he's the guy that pops into my head first. Even though I was young, I still remember seeing him on TV, giving his speeches and what not. I remember sitting there watching the elections on TV and states turning blue and red.

Reply to Riser

what the second time?

i dont think you were alive for his first election were you?

Reply to mrface

Yeah, I was born in '81. I was old enough to remember his second election.

Reply to Riser

yeah thats what i figured, you and I are the same age. 8)

Reply to mrface

Damn. I thought you were an old stuck up geezer.

:twisted:

Reply to Riser

Takes one to know one!

Reply to CHEEZball

edit: double post

Reply to mrface

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Yep. So spill. Why you get no sex?

:twisted:



Sick kids. . .
7 week old has had a cold for 8 days past (as have I). Now the 2 year old, who just got over it has some new unknown ailment.

No time for sex. Those with multiple young kids understand.

Reply to dwellman

Both my kids have had recent multiple battles with strep throat. Very mild fever
and low appetite were only signs, which happens with colds with them too.
Strep. Strep again 2 weeks later. 2 weeks later an ear infection...

...thank god for benefits! :wink:

Reply to KingLoftusXII

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...thank god for benefits! :wink:



Damn straight. Although I can barely afford mine. . . employer only pays 40% of the premium.

Reply to dwellman

Damn. for me $20 co-pay per visit, $5/15 for meds. $100 for ER visits, waved if
admitted. My 5 year old was a preemie, 3 months early, almost 3 months in
the hospital. Cost? $76,000! 8O I payed $0...I forever won't rip on FedEx. :wink:

$47 a week.

Reply to KingLoftusXII

$20 copay. . . not sure about meds, probably the same. Includes maternity, too. $1000 per anum deductible.

$130 week. . . :cry:

Reply to dwellman

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$130 week. . . :cry:



That's a BMW! 8O

It'll get worse when RC chimes in on the GM benefits and what little he paid.

Reply to KingLoftusXII

ER usage = $0
Hospital Stay = $0
Doctor Checkups = $0
Anything Medical aside medicine = $0

Muahahha

Reply to CHEEZball

.....living in Canada = worthless. For everything else, there's Mastercard.

Reply to Auburn9698

All qualified Canadian schooled & trained doctors working over the border in the U.S. where they can make a killing ...

Your left with ...What??

Reply to AilingBlackLab

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ER usage = $0
Hospital Stay = $0
Doctor Checkups = $0
Anything Medical aside medicine = $0
Waiting time for Medical attention: 3 months, optimistic.

Muahahha

Reply to Riser

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Damn. for me $20 co-pay per visit, $5/15 for meds. $100 for ER visits, waved if
admitted. My 5 year old was a preemie, 3 months early, almost 3 months in
the hospital. Cost? $76,000! 8O I payed $0...I forever won't rip on FedEx. :wink:

$47 a week.



Trivia..did you know FedEx is the 3rd largest Aircraft fleet in the world? :!:

Reply to Riser

Well, I've never needed a new heart, or kidney or something like that, nor have I known anyone too either, and I can understand those wait times being long. But for regular admittance they're pretty speedy.

Think the longest I waited in the ER for something that was fairly minor was 1 hour, which is ok with me :P rather wait a little longer than get the evil eyes from someone with a 5 inch gash on their forehead *shivers

Reply to CHEEZball

Hospitals around here promise 30 minutes or less. :wink:

Reply to Riser

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Hospitals around here promise 30 minutes or less. :wink:



Key word

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promise



Not live up to :wink:

Reply to AilingBlackLab

again, I can handle waiting that little bit longer when they take priority cases first :P Medical care should not be a first come first serve basis I don't think, it should be based on who is in more imminent danger.

Reply to CHEEZball

Sorry, wrong choice of word. Guarentee 30 minutes or less.

Average wait time is around 5 minutes. My collarbone I walked in and straight into see a doctor.

Other times I've been to the ER, taking someone there for treatment, they get in normally within 5 minutes still. It's rare that it takes longer then 10-15 minutes to get in.

Though, for 300,000 people in the city and 550,000 all encompassing, we have like 7 or 8 hospitals al within 15 minutes of at least 2 others.

Reply to Riser

Good point, my city has 3, only 2 with ER's

Reply to CHEEZball

He He He ... Jersey city or Newark ...

Unless;

A: Your heart is stopped

B: Your holding a severed limb

C: Your sporting a bullet in your chest or head

Good luck getting out of the waiting room within an hour...

Reply to AilingBlackLab

And while we're at it might as well take a leak when you take a dump.

Reply to zpyrd

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Well, I've never needed a new heart, or kidney or something like that, nor have I known anyone too either, and I can understand those wait times being long. But for regular admittance they're pretty speedy.

Think the longest I waited in the ER for something that was fairly minor was 1 hour, which is ok with me :P rather wait a little longer than get the evil eyes from someone with a 5 inch gash on their forehead *shivers



ask RC, he might be in need of a few change of parts soon. [/uncalled for , lowblow]

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