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December 27, 2005 6:21:04 PM

I have asus p5ld2 deluxe
p4 3.2 HT cpu
2 gigs pc 4200 ram
antek 480 watt ps
ati x1800xt

Only scoring 6000 on 3dmark05 and can't really play EQ2 past high performance settings. Anyone know what the problem could be or maybe some settings I could change to increase performance? I turned hyper threading off and added like 200 points to my 3dmark score but other than that i don't know what I could change.

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January 16, 2006 5:58:57 PM

Was this an entirely new computer? If not, did you format your Hard Drive when you installed the new components?
January 16, 2006 6:03:39 PM

This was an entirely new computer, my game of choice atm is EQ2 and I couldn't increase the settings at all and notice no performance increase over my old computer which is a

ati 9800 pro
asus p4p800
1 gig pc 3200
2.6 p4 ht

I talked to someone at ATI whcih told me I should be scoring 8500 minimum on 3dmark05 other than that he offered no help. I've updated my drivers and my bios and am just completely baffeled by what might be my problem. :( 
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January 16, 2006 6:46:10 PM

dang dude you should be scoring around 9500 on 05, i even score 8198 with my x1800xl card. Try reformating, then install the Mobo drivers first and restart after each driver like it says then networking and modem etc then the newest ATi catalyst 5.13 drivers. Try using xp sp2 also if you can. Then install 3dmark and see what you get. When you reformat make sure you select Non-quick format.
January 16, 2006 6:53:13 PM

ugh reformat? Could this be a software problem thats solved by a reformat? I'd hate to take 6 hours of my saturday but then again it sucks that I spent alot of money and am getting crappy performance. I've thought about reformatting a few times but then thought how pissed i'm gonna be if nothing changes lol.
January 16, 2006 6:56:41 PM

It could be that you have a problem with hyper threading, apparently if you don't have enough ram it can actually impair performance, something about full registers giving a problem, wll find out when my bro get back.
January 16, 2006 7:17:33 PM

You might have antialiasing or anisotropic filtering ON. Check the Display properties/Advanced or (Catalyst Control Center if using that one). If AA or AF is ON, change them to Application Preference.
January 16, 2006 7:30:55 PM

Running a game on full will just put those back on again, he should not have any problem running a game like that.
January 16, 2006 8:39:57 PM

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Only scoring 6000 on 3dmark05


Post a compare link.

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and can't really play EQ2 past high performance settings.


That seems a little low, balanced seems to be the setting of choice for [H];

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTMwLDg=

but really if they find 40-50FPS to be playable, but if you don't then that might be part of that problem.

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Anyone know what the problem could be or maybe some settings I could change to increase performance? I turned hyper threading off and added like 200 points to my 3dmark score but other than that i don't know what I could change.


Always difficult trouble shooting without good variety of benchmarks. Did you run a memtest program to check you ram? While you say this is a new computer, is that from the time you had the X1800 or did you add it afterwards? If it's been added after, could be old drivers, use driver cleaner pro and re-install catalysts.
Try running some other benchmarks like PCmark, and post a link to the compare results for both your 3Dmark and PCmark, also run the older versions of 3Dmark since their tests are more thorough.
January 18, 2006 3:04:44 PM

Uninstalled ati drivers and ran driver cleaner then re-installed and had little to no change in performance. Ran mem test for 30 minutes 0 errors. Chipsets updated and Bios is updated. Ran 3dmark05 again last night and got 6000, eq2 still runs like crap even in extreme performance. Anyone have any other ideas on why my computer sucks?
January 18, 2006 7:54:49 PM

Downloaded the new drivers that came out today...nothing improved ; ;
January 18, 2006 8:33:48 PM

your card may be faulty... try RMAing it... or mess around with bios and see if everything is set to what it should be what mobo do u have?
January 18, 2006 8:37:30 PM

Allready exchanged the card once and as far as bios ive changed it all around numerous times and nothings changed...the mobo is asus p5ld2 deluxe.

I'm haveing a hard time thinking that 1 or 2 settings changes are gonna get me 2-3k more points on 3dmark05. The computer works fine just seeing poor performance in games, this is getting really frustrating. Next step is to just take a loss and order new mobo cpu and ram I guess.
January 18, 2006 8:43:21 PM

well this happened to me on my agp board... agp write wasnt on and that sped my computer up drastically... about 20k in aquamark so if ud rather spend another 800 dollars than mess around with ur bios for 30 min then be my guest... just a suggestion of course... how old is ur hd? have u defragged? (yes that impacts performance a lot) if all fails try running with 1gb memory just to see what happens... other than that im lost ask some1 with more knowledge
January 18, 2006 8:48:01 PM

Everything in the computer is less than 3 weeks old. I have defragged after each large install. I have also ran the computer with 1 stick of ram which only slowed the computer down. As far as the bios almost everything in it has an auto setting and maybe I don't know enough to change it so maybe thats my problem. I beleive its a amreican microtrends bios is anyone knows anything about that I'd love some advice.
January 18, 2006 8:56:32 PM

going from 2 gigs to 1 shouldnt have slowed u down enough to notice... download ATI tool and tell us what ur clock speeds are, also download cpu-z and see if all ur settings are what they should be.. if its noname brand the timings might be very bad but that wouldnt make u lose 2k performance in 3dmark.. i suggest going out and wasting all ur money on an amd dual core
January 18, 2006 8:59:22 PM

My plan was wasteing all my money on a pentium extreme :D . thing that scares me at this point is speding alot of money and finding out it was my internet connection or power suplly or something dumb like that. (i dont know how my internet connection could slow my graphics performance down btw)
January 18, 2006 9:02:13 PM

lolz it cant only download and ping... p4 EE = waste if u have all that to spend fx 60 is the way to go :) ... and if u do that il take that 3.2 off ur hands :D .... but like i said try out cpu-z and ati tools and tell us what it shows
January 18, 2006 9:41:51 PM

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lolz it cant only download and ping... p4 EE = waste if u have all that to spend fx 60 is the way to go :) ... and if u do that il take that 3.2 off ur hands :D .... but like i said try out cpu-z and ati tools and tell us what it shows



I ran cpu z but noway for me to link that here, tell me what to look for and i'll give you the data.


Pne thing I notice is the core speed goes from 2800-3200 and the multiplier goes from x14 to x16 alot
January 18, 2006 10:22:06 PM

lol wait wtf? the core speed of ur proc changes from 2.8 to 3.2? thats messed up.....
January 18, 2006 10:39:22 PM

Opteron also has a very fast 2.6ghz single core for the 939 pins for about $200 less than the FX, but it OC's nicely, runs cooler, and uses lower voltage than your typical 3500/ 3700, etc.

Same with X2 vs. opteron dual core.
January 19, 2006 2:20:07 AM

Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)

CPU#1 APIC ID = 0
Name Intel Pentium 4 640
Code Name Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 4 3
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Package LGA775
Core Stepping N0
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
CPU Clock Speed 2810.0 MHz
Clock multiplier x 14.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 200.7 MHz
Bus Speed 802.8 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 KĀµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2810.0 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

CPU#2 APIC ID = 1
CPU Name Intel Pentium 4 640 (logical unit)


Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Motherboard model P5LD2-Deluxe, Rev 1.xx
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision 0415
BIOS release date 10/30/2005
Chipset Intel i945P/G rev. 81
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7) rev. 01
Sensor chip Winbond W83627EHF
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16

Memory
DRAM Type DDR2-SDRAM
DRAM Size 2048 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 267.6 MHz
FSB:D RAM 3:4
CAS# Latency 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge 4 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 12 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Kingston DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 1024 MBytes
Module 1 Kingston DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 1024 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c


cpu clock speed on a 3.2 is showing 2.8 which goes up and down to 3.2 the clock multiplier also goes from 14x to 16x
January 19, 2006 2:05:46 PM

my guess is a mobo/temperature problem... is the cpu is throttling it slows itself down.. or it could even be a power problem... if u have a stock cooler i suggest buying a good one at a store and if it doesnt solve the problem return it.. if that isnt the problem look into a new mobo
January 19, 2006 2:22:47 PM

The power supply is a antec 480 which is brand new, it may be the power outlet im useing i've noticed the a lamp in the same outlet dim occasionaly lol. Could an old power strip also cause poor performance if the computer isn't getting as much power as it wants? i'm assuming yes.
January 19, 2006 2:39:13 PM

yea.. i think powerstrips have a max of like 200 watts... not sure thoso try plugging it into a good outlet
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