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Blizzard Announces Paragon Levels for Diablo III Endgame

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August 21, 2012 2:08:08 AM

Looks like this game has become a gold farmer/bot farmer paradise.
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August 21, 2012 2:09:02 AM

so you just replay the same levels over and over and over???
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August 21, 2012 2:16:12 AM

no i wont go back, my annual pass ends in november and i pre purchased GW 2 :p 
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August 21, 2012 2:22:48 AM

So, over time, with all the extra stats with paragon... the end game will get easier and easier. Not only this, but a lvl 60 with full paragon will be completely broken for PVP. Basically, if you want to PvP with a char, you need to be maxed Paragon. This also makes you unable to PvP with 2 chars successfully. Thanks blizzard, I see no reason to come back to this sh!t game.
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August 21, 2012 2:38:08 AM

Bad Ideas blizzard seems to be making them at a alarming rate. Like others said bot paradise now which adds funds to the RMAH.... PVP we broke it before it released since now paragons will gank you. Talk about continuing to make a bad situation worse.
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August 21, 2012 2:39:47 AM

This really doesn't make players return to the game. The ppl that quit over being bored already have tons of MF and can farm Act 3 and 4 with ease. They might return for a few days then quit again after they see nothing really changed.
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August 21, 2012 2:45:45 AM

Blizzard is trying to fix every fail they made with this game.
They are trying to bandaid this game at an alarming rate.
It's discouraging to see how they are trying to hard to make this failed game playable.
They know they botched this game so bad and can never make it comparable to Diablo 2.

I am beginning to think these patches and ridiculous add ons are thought up on the fly by a team of people who are all facepalming themselves saying, "How did we screw this game up so bad!"
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August 21, 2012 2:47:57 AM

Imagine how hard they are working now to try to make a non failure expansion pack
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August 21, 2012 2:50:47 AM

This was just done so people can farm more, thus allowing Blizzard to rake in the millions from the RMAH. They've gone full greedy people
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August 21, 2012 3:02:01 AM

Obviously Blizzard isn't stupid they know that they make a profit from RMAH so the more people sell the more money they make.
What a failure this game is
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August 21, 2012 3:05:00 AM

schnitterSo, over time, with all the extra stats with paragon... the end game will get easier and easier. Not only this, but a lvl 60 with full paragon will be completely broken for PVP. Basically, if you want to PvP with a char, you need to be maxed Paragon. This also makes you unable to PvP with 2 chars successfully. Thanks blizzard, I see no reason to come back to this sh!t game.

Blizzard could just not allow Paragon levels to apply in PvP. They have a history of having different rules in PvP than in PvE.
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August 21, 2012 3:07:05 AM

audi911Blizzard is trying to fix every fail they made with this game.They are trying to bandaid this game at an alarming rate.It's discouraging to see how they are trying to hard to make this failed game playable.They know they botched this game so bad and can never make it comparable to Diablo 2. I am beginning to think these patches and ridiculous add ons are thought up on the fly by a team of people who are all facepalming themselves saying, "How did we screw this game up so bad!"

There is a lot of truth to that. Though not all new ideas will be bad, but a lot of damage has already been done and how do you overhaul the game after so many invested real money into items in the game? Not that I ever did, but I'm sure a bunch of people will feel screwed, if they aren't already with the new Legendary changes.
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August 21, 2012 3:12:09 AM

It's too bad Blizzard employees don't read these things and admit their failure.
(But what company would admit a total botch on a game)
It would be nice to see them come out of the hole they dug, but I really doubt it.
It's too bad, this game was so highly anticipated and it failed so miserably.
They did this to themselves
And yes they did get very greedy with the RMAH
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August 21, 2012 3:18:11 AM

Yeah blizzard screwed themselves over with diablo 3 but at least they are will to try and fix it. Let's see the issues in mass effect 3 get fixed anytime soon. Diablo 3 will have support for at least 10 years so I would imagine that by then the issues will be gone. Also it would be cool if the paragon levels unlock new runes.
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August 21, 2012 3:42:38 AM

thor220Yeah blizzard screwed themselves over with diablo 3 but at least they are will to try and fix it. Let's see the issues in mass effect 3 get fixed anytime soon. Diablo 3 will have support for at least 10 years so I would imagine that by then the issues will be gone. Also it would be cool if the paragon levels unlock new runes.


What does Mass Effect 3 have anything to do with a Diablo 3 article?
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August 21, 2012 3:46:58 AM

They need to say F it, and give the players the helm. Cut off that online DRM crapola, Let us mod it, include a PVP that is online for FUN which as a system to check your game like Punk Buster, and ditch the paying AH and they need to ADD Lan. Stopped playing this game after 2 weeks. It really is a crap game. Boring as hell and repeditave.
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August 21, 2012 4:23:06 AM

There are still people out there who keep playing Diablo III even after so much fails from Blizzard's side? Really?
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August 21, 2012 4:26:18 AM

I like my ending better. I used the wizard exploit to beat inferno, then started using a bot to farm gold, sold it on the RMAH and got banned. GG.
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August 21, 2012 4:29:01 AM

When are we getting an offline option Blizzard?
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August 21, 2012 4:42:22 AM

magnetiteWhat does Mass Effect 3 have anything to do with a Diablo 3 article?


Because both games were a large disappointment for their respective franchises. You can see that each game is very flawed and that blizzard is trying to fix their's. But in comparison, Bioware spends much less time fixing their game after release than blizzard does. At least they are trying to do something positive, albeit, for their own reasons.
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August 21, 2012 5:11:44 AM

as soon as people starts playing diablo 3 back, blizzard will start to nerf things again. pfffff
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August 21, 2012 5:49:59 AM

ct1615so you just replay the same levels over and over and over???


There was a reason why the original(s) had so much randomization in the levels. Because it never would feel like playing over the same levels over and over again.
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August 21, 2012 7:03:06 AM

ct1615so you just replay the same levels over and over and over???


same with diablo 1 and diablo 2, you complaint is kind of stupid when you consider that.

schnitterSo, over time, with all the extra stats with paragon... the end game will get easier and easier. Not only this, but a lvl 60 with full paragon will be completely broken for PVP. Basically, if you want to PvP with a char, you need to be maxed Paragon. This also makes you unable to PvP with 2 chars successfully. Thanks blizzard, I see no reason to come back to this sh!t game.


my level 60 character isnt as high a level as his 99 and that just isnt fair to me, thats what your argument comes to.

HotRoderxBad Ideas blizzard seems to be making them at a alarming rate. Like others said bot paradise now which adds funds to the RMAH.... PVP we broke it before it released since now paragons will gank you. Talk about continuing to make a bad situation worse.


so after 100 levels you are basically at 300% item find, 300% gold.
in diablo 1 and 2, correct me if im wrong, but wasn't gold you found on the ground a joke? i dont know about diablo 3, but in 2 most of my gold came from selling...

and what, item rarities in this game can exceed 100000000 to 1, 300% makes that 33000000 to 1 odds, its better but not by much realistically.

audi911Blizzard is trying to fix every fail they made with this game.They are trying to bandaid this game at an alarming rate.It's discouraging to see how they are trying to hard to make this failed game playable.They know they botched this game so bad and can never make it comparable to Diablo 2. I am beginning to think these patches and ridiculous add ons are thought up on the fly by a team of people who are all facepalming themselves saying, "How did we screw this game up so bad!"


cant recapture the same magic... is anyone from diablo 1 and 2 still working for them? this is a serious question... i know one of the main people heads runic games.

bystanderBlizzard could just not allow Paragon levels to apply in PvP. They have a history of having different rules in PvP than in PvE.


or they could make them apply, because everyone has the ability to level up, you sink time into a character why not have all the benefits of your character?

why kowtow to whiney puke who got to level 60 and 60 alone quit the game, came back later and found out there are over 100 more levels to get. its their fault for quitting the game they aren't prepared.

thor220Yeah blizzard screwed themselves over with diablo 3 but at least they are will to try and fix it. Let's see the issues in mass effect 3 get fixed anytime soon. Diablo 3 will have support for at least 10 years so I would imagine that by then the issues will be gone. Also it would be cool if the paragon levels unlock new runes.


while they did fix most of the issues with the ending, i still dont like it.

master_chenThere are still people out there who keep playing Diablo III even after so much fails from Blizzard's side? Really?


the game isnt god like most people wanted, but its far from a bad game... at worst you can call it annoying.

thor220Because both games were a large disappointment for their respective franchises. You can see that each game is very flawed and that blizzard is trying to fix their's. But in comparison, Bioware spends much less time fixing their game after release than blizzard does. At least they are trying to do something positive, albeit, for their own reasons.


they did half (dont want sanction) it, but really, there is nothing they could do short of the indoctrination theory is correct, and kill off all of the galaxy, while shepard is either indoctrinated, or overcomes that to just watch everything they worked for fail... seeing that game with 3 "good" (galaxy wins) endings and the a spit in the eye to everyone who said their shepard would have shot the god child was just the last thing that made me never want to finish that series.

joe nateThere was a reason why the original(s) had so much randomization in the levels. Because it never would feel like playing over the same levels over and over again.


lets be honest, it always felt the same, you just couldn't brease through it.
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August 21, 2012 7:29:14 AM

I think its pretty much dead in the ground. Lets hope the rest of there game releases aren't incomplete and completely dysfunctional like DB3.
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August 21, 2012 7:29:29 AM

Pure AH game...unistalled it after act1 on inferno.
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August 21, 2012 8:10:06 AM

Articleothers still felt a staggering lack of purpose for logging into the game.

Got that right. I don't recall when I had the game started last. But I do recall the feeling of boredom that arose when I last played.
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August 21, 2012 8:18:46 AM

Diablo series is dead. Please move on Blizzard! What happened to innovation? Sounds to me Blizz Execs wanna ride the gravy train by milking all you blokes for what its worth... Not much if you ask me, just rehashed garbage
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August 21, 2012 8:19:02 AM

correct move. now bring pvp too, dont make that paragon bonus overpowered and you got a kinda similar playing experience like in d2. and more random levels. and teleport... . and, and, and...
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August 21, 2012 8:23:49 AM

I think blizzard is a victim of its own success.

First they created a market system culture in WOW that was very lucrative to then that they want to capitalize on in diablo3 but they also want to leave enough room for Diablo 3.2 or the expansion to Diablo so that they can redeem themselves by leveling players up to level 70 and then the third version to level 80 and so on.

I've play the starter version and it's a smooth gutsy game, that is relatively glitch free and very well balanced.

what blizzard should have done is given us a massive world to explore with a randomization engine, that generates fractured lands and insane beasts..... with no experience by any one player ever being the same... ie..... when was the last time you hauled ass to a portal to escape annihilation or called on about 40 of your buddies help you defeat a giga beast of note.

They should have also uncapped the skill acquisition level ..... ans maybe instead of selling items, then sell new moves.... aka check you character into a monastery of with level's to defeat and a grand master to destroy, before attaining a super kick ass move that equates to new move you can show off to you friends that other Diablo 3 users have never seen before and just charge a check in fee at the door for the pleasure of attaining a new skill.
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August 21, 2012 8:45:04 AM

Dear Bliz,
The level cap isn't the problem
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August 21, 2012 9:38:42 AM

paulbowringI think blizzard is a victim of its own success.

Sort of yes. It's hard to make a successful successor to an awesome product. But on the other hand they haven't invented anything new in this millenium! All their ip is from the 90s where anything slightly out of the box is new - now everything they can dream of has already been done by someone else.

If they'd make a sequel to someone elses game, it'd probably turn out much better than the original. Or they could try to make a new ip and hope it doesn't turn into Rage or something.

Either way, they'll get more credit for that - and their marketing department rivals of that of the rotten apple anyway, so they could create huge hype without lifting a finger.
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August 21, 2012 9:52:16 AM

you know, d3 is just an updated d2 and so i am not sure why so many thought it was gonna be any different . Honestly i personally feel the players lets themselves down by buying D3 and not demanding a better product from Blizzard. I mean i don't even blame Blizzard because if folk are gonna throw money at you while you change them into a legit gold farming clique then hey why not take advantage , it is not as if they are smart enough to realize that this was a 10 year old expansion pack...
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August 21, 2012 9:57:07 AM

Blizzard tries really hard to make Diablo a MMORPG what it is not
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August 21, 2012 10:17:09 AM

This kinda sucks. I don't mind the fact that you get stronger, but what I do mind is that now I'll have a 'Paragon Aura' around my character. The idea of the perfect endgame for me, in fact the reason I want a maxed-out character with most of the best items possible, is so that I can go back to hell difficulty and destroy mobs and bosses with ease, leaving my party members in awe at my power.

With the 'Paragon Aura' visible, they will notice immediately that I'm not a hell difficulty character but an inferno difficulty one, and all I'll hear is "lol go back to inferno".
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August 21, 2012 12:18:54 PM

IMO, the beta was amazing but the game sucks. I won't be going back. And good to see the DRM did nothing to help prevent dupes and bots. Can't wait to see posts about items with hacked stats...
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August 21, 2012 12:51:13 PM

audi911Imagine how hard they are working now to try to make a non failure expansion pack

Released in 10 years
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August 21, 2012 1:09:29 PM

The Call of Duty Prestige system all over again. I guess yeah for getting something for your effort but lame that they haven't really invested anything into making the game-play experience any better after 60.

C'est la vie
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August 21, 2012 1:37:52 PM

Blizzard mistakes:

1.Auction House
2.Real Money Auction House

You can tell they really went for $$$ with this one.
I'm convinced they learned from their mistake though. You can see they'll do ANYTHING to try and fix things, but in reality it's just a botched game with similarities to Diablo 2.
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August 21, 2012 2:06:17 PM

audi911Blizzard is trying to fix every fail they made with this game.They are trying to bandaid this game at an alarming rate.It's discouraging to see how they are trying to hard to make this failed game playable.They know they botched this game so bad and can never make it comparable to Diablo 2. I am beginning to think these patches and ridiculous add ons are thought up on the fly by a team of people who are all facepalming themselves saying, "How did we screw this game up so bad!"


How did they screw up so bad? They made sell records. Blizzard is just a bunch of arrogant drones. They're not facepalming, they're just trying to manipulate people into continuing to feed the scam they crafted over the years. They're just maybe disapointed people don't get much into the RMHA thing, but facepalming? No. Arogant ***Holes don't facepalm, cause they're always right.
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August 21, 2012 2:11:51 PM

reviewer889Blizzard mistakes:1.Auction House2.Real Money Auction HouseYou can tell they really went for $$$ with this one.I'm convinced they learned from their mistake though. You can see they'll do ANYTHING to try and fix things, but in reality it's just a botched game with similarities to Diablo 2.


1. RMHA

Things Non-Fanboys Care For:

2. Skill Change On-the-Fly
3. No Stats Placement
4. Subpar Graphical Technology (With bad performances on decent hardware at that)
5. Toned Down Artstyle
6. Being a game from a Studio so arrogant they even created a secret level to make fun of serious past Diablo fans who were concerned with the changes in style they were going for. Fanboys told them to shup up, turn out they were right. How arrogant you have to be to make actual in-game content to nag customers?
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August 21, 2012 2:26:07 PM

Big problem with this game is the randomization. It really sucks. I've played this game quite a few times and I'm still going into the same locations. D2 had it right. D3 really screwed the pooch on this one. Paragon system doesn't fix the flaws in this game. And Jay W. You can F*** Off. D1 and 2 creator interview is fill with truth. It's the arrogance of yourself and your company that destroyed the Diablo spirit.
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August 21, 2012 2:56:43 PM

Jay Wilson is the main problem. He is the reason I'll never buy another Blizzard product again.
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August 21, 2012 3:03:08 PM

To put it simply (Blizzard, I hope you're reading this): I'll stay with my GODLIKE Torchlight, thank you very much. Diablo III, you can go f*unk yourself, I don't care about you anymore.
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August 21, 2012 3:18:24 PM

thor220Because both games were a large disappointment for their respective franchises. You can see that each game is very flawed and that blizzard is trying to fix their's. But in comparison, Bioware spends much less time fixing their game after release than blizzard does. At least they are trying to do something positive, albeit, for their own reasons.


The only flaw ME3 had was its ending, everything else was ten times better than the previous game and the gameplay in ME3 reached a movie quality that the previous game lacked. So no, a comparison can't be made between the two games.
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August 21, 2012 3:23:14 PM

Any programmer worth a crap knows you do not change a season tested design. Improve on it yes but not totally white wash the crap out of it till nothing is left. Why blizzard put the low level cap and screwed up specialized character builds is beyond stupid. With any luck they may figure this out before all those who purchased the game stops playing. Once players hit the new cap again no reason to play as those players have the best build.
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August 21, 2012 3:27:46 PM

This isn't a very good system because it doesn't improve gameplay in any way, shape, or form. All it does is slightly decrease difficulty over time by giving you stats. This is a feature that targets achievement oriented players rather than gameplay oriented players, however in order for achievements to be worth anything, they have to establish some solid gameplay so that there is a player-base to worship people who are paragon level 100.

This idea was suggested by Kripp, and was widely supported by his youtube followers, so it would make sense for Blizzard to implement because it will either work, or they can say "hey, you guys wanted it, it's your fault." Although the idea had a lot of potential, I don't think Blizzard thought it through very well. Every time I gain a paragon level, I want to unlock something new, not gain an additional dex.
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August 21, 2012 3:36:53 PM

Bad move, I prefer rising level cap to 160 instead of 60 +100p
Also, no end game content...
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August 21, 2012 3:46:19 PM

schnitterSo, over time, with all the extra stats with paragon... the end game will get easier and easier. Not only this, but a lvl 60 with full paragon will be completely broken for PVP. Basically, if you want to PvP with a char, you need to be maxed Paragon. This also makes you unable to PvP with 2 chars successfully. Thanks blizzard, I see no reason to come back to this sh!t game.

Where did you read that, maybe they will match you with someone with your same paragon level....
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August 21, 2012 3:53:23 PM

reviewer889Blizzard mistakes:1.Auction House2.Real Money Auction HouseYou can tell they really went for $$$ with this one.I'm convinced they learned from their mistake though. You can see they'll do ANYTHING to try and fix things, but in reality it's just a botched game with similarities to Diablo 2.

Given they get no incentive for you to keep playing after the purchase, other than the RMAH, I'm sure if they could do it again, and try to fix everything wrong with the game, the AH and RMAH would remain.
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