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You do not have to buy additional Terminal Services CALS, as long
as all of your clients run XP Pro or W2K Pro. They will receive a
free TS CAL from the TS Licensing Server.
Regarding the use of the Access database, that's a different
story:
normal Office license requirements apply here, that means that you
will need an Office license for every client that uses your Access
database. This is per client device, not concurrent. Check here
for details:
Licensing Microsoft Office in a Windows Terminal Server
Environment
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licen
soffice.asp
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Vera Noest
MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
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"Andy Levy" <andy underscore levy at hotmail dot com> wrote in
news:unNj410IEHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
> Thank you for your explanation - that does clear things up a lot
> for me.
>
> Ive just downloaded the 180 day trial version of 2000 server
> supplied by Microsoft - and will hopefully be able to test it
> thoroughly.
>
> So - if i am running an MS Access2k database which has a
> frontend with quite a few forms - i could place the frontend
> (MDE File) on the 2000 server and have several winXP Pro
> computers on a WAN accessing that database front end without any
> extra Terminal Services Licence purchases? From what you are
> saying - it seems as if i grant my own licences to people who
> are running the application on my server. Is that correct?
> Surely the client computer must pay some licence fee to MS for
> the use of MS Access on t he server - 'No' ?
>
>
>
>
> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote
> in message
> news:Xns94CCE578BB0E7veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...
>> You are already in the best place
>>
>> If you want multiple users to run your application from a
>> Terminal Server, you will need to set up a Terminal Server in
>> what is called "Application Server mode" (on Windows 2000), or
>> just "Terminal Services" (On Windows 2003).
>> When you buy Windows 2000, including 5 CALs, those are normal
>> server CAL, meaning that 5 clients (concurrent) are allowed to
>> contact this server for authorisation, file and print services,
>> and soforth. If you install Terminal Services in Application
>> mode on this Windows 2000 server (this in itself is without
>> extra costs), then you also need to install and activate a TS
>> Licensing Server (also free of costs, included in the W2K
>> Operating System).
>>
>> Then you need a Terminal Server CAL for every client that
>> starts a Terminal Services session on that server. BUT: if the
>> client runs Windows 2000 Pro or XP Pro, these clients get a
>> free TS CAL from the TS Licensing Server, so that doesn't cost
>> youi anything either. Only if you have clients running other OS
>> (NT4, W95, W98, unix, Macintosh), then you must purchase
>> additional TS CALs.
>>
>> Terminal Servies on XP Pro is only meant for Remote
>> Administration purposes, you have only one remote connection,
>> which takes over the current desktop connection. This doesn't
>> seem to be what you want.
>>
>> One final point: installing applications on a Terminal Server
>> is done in a special way, while the server is in "install
>> mode". Despite this, not all applications run error-free on a
>> Terminal Server. So if you go this way, be sure to use the 90
>> days grace period (in which you don't need a TS Licensing
>> Server or TS CALs) to test your application!
>>
>> Further reading:
>>
>> Terminal Services Programming Guidelines
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
>>
us/termserv/termserv/terminal_services_programming_guidelines.as
>> p
>>
>> Windows 2000 Terminal Services Licensing FAQ
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/tsf
>> aq .asp
>>
>> Microsofts Terminal Services FAQ
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/ter
>> mi nal/terminal_faq.asp
>>
>> --
>> Vera Noest
>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>
http://hem.fyristorg.com/vera/IT
>> --- please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ---
>>
>> "Andy Levy" <andy underscore levy at hotmail dot com> wrote in
>> news:OaT11owIEHA.3820@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
>>
>> > Do you know any good places for asking questions on microsoft
>> > licensing. Ive troed emailing MS but not haerd back in a
>> > week.
>> >
>> >
>> > <dpuryear@usa.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rm6t70picjgibbardb9dufnp25sid2sib1@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:55:41 +0100, "Andy Levy" <andy
>> >> underscore levy at hotmail dot com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I am looking at setting up terminal sevices for an
>> >> >application i wrote
>> > so
>> >> >it can be accessed from other computers. I am confused
>> >> >about the
>> > terminal
>> >> >services licensing.
>> >> >
>> >> >If i install win2k server i get 5 CALs for about $700
>> >>
>> >> Those are not terminal server CALs.
>> >>
>> >> >However if i get WinXP professional which also has terminal
>> >> >services installed i can have multiple clients for what
>> >> >seems to be free, is this
>> > the
>> >> >case?
>> >> >
>> >> >How do the terminal services on each OS compare?
>> >>
>> >> Apples and oranges. Win2k TS offers multi-user access while
>> >> XP does not.
>> >>
>> >> P.S. Yes, terminal services licensing, and Microsoft
>> >> licensing in general, can be confusing.
>> >>
>> >> ---
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>> >> Baton Rouge, LA
>> >> 225-343-3056
>> >>
http://www.puryear-it.com
>> >>
>> >> Author of "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX
>> >> Servers" Download your free copy:
>> >>
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