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Can anyone recommend the best socket A cooler on the market on a realistic price (like under $40).... I am thinking that with a bit of extra cooling I may get my barton 2800 to run at 2.5GHz, it runs ATM but crashed after 10 mins....
 

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You will need more than air cooling to pimp the mhz and volts than much. You will need to increase the vcrore to at least 1.85 to maintain a stable system.
 

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run speedfan[free] and check temps for nb, mb and cpu. If cpu under 60c should be fine. Try lapping heatsink and some artic silver, alot cheeper. You may need a nb hsf too if temps are over 50c, I'd worry. Over 400mhz oc 8O is that even stable on air with any hsf? ZALMAN CNPS7700-ALCU under 40$ and works on all amd cpu's and most intel's.
good luck
 

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I am writing this with the chip running at 2500MHz..... Downloading that speedfan thing to check temps...

All on the stock crummy cooler!


speedfan is telling me 77 deg with the overclock running.... PS I have no idea of the vcore voltage, the only option is to bump it up by 5 or 10%...
 

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So long as it fits with the fan with enough room not to impede the airflow it will work. Just make sure the pipes end up pointing higher then the base of the pipes and I would not see any problems.
 

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My bad :oops: wrong one meant this one CNPS7000A-AlCu. 77c!! whats your case temp? Do you have any case fans and is the side on or off the case. stock vcore is 1.65 I think. Your going to need more then a good hsf, air flow is a most. The SI-97a looks better than the zalman. Did you pick 2.5g as a goal? You may never get there even with low temps, every chip has it's limit. Start low and move up slow.
 

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My bad :oops: wrong one meant this one CNPS7000A-AlCu. 77c!! whats your case temp? Do you have any case fans and is the side on or off the case. stock vcore is 1.65 I think. Your going to need more then a good hsf, air flow is a most. The SI-97a looks better than the zalman. Did you pick 2.5g as a goal? You may never get there even with low temps, every chip has it's limit. Start low and move up slow.

speedfan gives me three temps, temp 1 is 27 deg - and temp 2 is 34 deg. Not sure what one is the case temp. temp 3 is the CPU for sure.....
 

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Did you pick 2.5g as a goal? You may never get there even with low temps, every chip has it's limit. Start low and move up slow.

The mobo only supports the stock fsb speeds of 100/133/166/200 thus the only upgrade for the 166 fsb barton is to 200 fsb.... This just happens to be 2500MHz....

It will run at 2500MHz now for extended periods of time now I have upped the Vcore to +10%, just I am worried that at 77deg I may fry it, and that was only at idle! I think the chip will be good for it, and if I can get the temp back to a normal ish level I will run the burn in to really test it.

I will get the new heatsink tommorow and see if it helps...
 

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Just a guess 34 northbridge and 27 system. those are good temps. when you get your new hsf your cpu will drop and the other temps will rise. this is do to the heat moving in to the case from the cpu. 77 at idle is way high, if you can get it in the low 60's at full load you should be in the safe zone. Other temps are safe in low 50's. Most people aim for under 40 system and nb and under 50 cpu. The barton's are oc champs so I'd say you have a shot. Clockgen[free] may let you adjust fsb and multipliers[down] in windows. There is a pin mod for some Socket A's that unlocks multipliers , if your brave[or crazy].
good luck and if it goes to 70 agian shut it off and fast!
 

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nice :D ! did you run prim95 yet? I was looking online, the best I seen was 2.4gh on air. There's alot of apps that will let OC in windows and fine tune your fsb.
 

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both, but mostly used for testing. It runs ram and cpu at 100% and checks for errors in the calculations. Run torture test for 24 hours if it passes your stable. Keep eye on temps for the first half hour, it will heat up more than running any other app. Most thermal paste take a few days to set[the good ones] so temps may still fall a few.
 

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My 2400+ @2.3 runs 46c load with 30c ambiant. It still sounds like you are running a bit warm.

I use a Thermaltake Polo...

edit: Voltage is 1.68 according to speedfan @ 2.3 full load
 

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My 2400+ @2.3 runs 46c load with 30c ambiant. It still sounds like you are running a bit warm.

I use a Thermaltake Polo...

edit: Voltage is 1.68 according to speedfan @ 2.3 full load

I have an extra 200mhz and an extra 0.12 volts over you - so the extra heat may be understandable
 

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both, but mostly used for testing. It runs ram and cpu at 100% and checks for errors in the calculations. Run torture test for 24 hours if it passes your stable. Keep eye on temps for the first half hour, it will heat up more than running any other app. Most thermal paste take a few days to set[the good ones] so temps may still fall a few.


Been running all night no problems so far
 

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I would call over night stable, now on to the gfx card! I realy like that Thermalright SI-97.

My GPU is looking very old tbh... A 9600 pro (has not aged as well as the CPU that I got at the same time). All I can do is OC the core from 400 to 420 before is all goes very wrong :(

And I do not want to shell out loads on a AGP card now when it will be of no use to future systems, when I get my M2 based system in the summer (fingers crossed)... But if I see a very cheap one I will go for it.