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First time build-help on CPU,MB,Ram & PSU?

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January 5, 2006 6:33:58 PM

Looking for advice on my first build, done a fair amount of research and narrowed things down to the below.

Processor
Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2x512KB Manchester - $322
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2x512KB Manchester - $400
If I want good performance out of the box and maybe some mild OCing with stock cooler... thoughts?

MB
DFI nForce4 Ultra Infinity - $98 (worried that it is hard to troubleshoot and more likely to not like a component)
Epox 9NPA+ Ultra - $101 (worried about the USB 2.0 problems)
eVGA 133-K8-NF41 nForce 4 Athlon 64(FX) - $60 (free w/ 7800 GT, but 7800GT costs 60 more, so costs $60)... its a great price for an SLI board (don't expect to need SLI), but not sure how good the board is for OCing.

Ram
OCZ PC-4000 2x1024MB EL Gold - $210 (after rebate)
OCZ PC3200 2x1024MB 184-Pin DDR Platinum - $199.81 (after rebate)
Corsair PC-3200 2x1024MB ValueSelect - $164
Patriot PDC2G3200ELK 2GB Kit DDR400 PC3200 Eased Latency - $170

Graphics Card
7800 GT - ~300 (when I pull the trigger, will do a quick cost comp)
eVGA Geforce 6800GS - $184
Having trouble deciding if the performance boost is worth $116.

Hard Drive
Western Digital 3.0Gbps 250GB 7200RPM 8MB Caviar SE - $99

DVD drive
Will just pick, not a big concern.. maybe NEC DVDR ND-3550A or BenQ DVDR DQ60

Case
Antec P150 - $159

PSU
430-Watt ATX12V v2.2 Neo HE (comes w/P150) - know there are big problems with this PSU, but not looking at ASUS MBs and don't want to spend more than around 160 for my case/PSU. Am I making a big mistake? Suggested alternatives in the same budget?

I already have a Dell 2005FPW LCD. No specific budget, looking for good price/performance... I'm willing to spend money, but perfer not to :wink:
I plan to use it primarily for gaming, but also for std computer uses (web, email, mp3s, etc).

Thanks for any help!!

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January 5, 2006 7:21:53 PM

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I plan to use it primarily for gaming, but also for std computer uses (web, email, mp3s, etc).

Then get a single core CPU. Better performance for your usage.

I'd go:
1. CPU: 3700+ or 4000+
2. Mobo: 9NPA+ Ultra
3. RAM: OCZ Platinum
4. GPU: 7800GT - worth the extra $, especially for long term.
5. HDD: spend a few dollars more for a 16MB cache drive.
6. PSU: Enermax 535W Whisper II model EG565P
7. Case: Coolermaster RC-531
January 5, 2006 7:39:01 PM

Dual Core - From what I've read, the dual core seems more likely to stay useful in the medium/long term and will be helpful when doing a bunch of things at once (tendency not to focus on one thing at a time), although agree its probably not needed (then again, most games should be GPU limited, so even 3200+ vs 3700+, probably isn't a big deal for current performance).

RAM, any comment on PC3200 Platinum vs PC4000 Gold?
January 6, 2006 9:50:26 AM

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If you want to overclock, then you can't consider the value RAM.

Bullshit. Run it async with a minimal performance loss. :/  Also, I wouldn't really consider OCZ Plat to be a "value" series of RAM.
January 6, 2006 9:52:20 AM

It's your choice and your computer - I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever CPU you do get for the rig. :smile:
January 6, 2006 10:37:38 AM

I think prozac26 was talking about the Corsair PC-3200 2x1024MB ValueSelect or the Patriot PDC2G3200ELK 2GB Kit DDR400 PC3200 Eased Latency when he mentioned value RAM.

I'm torn between the eVGA motherboard (if it comes back in stock...) and the Epox.

Case, I'm also having trouble deciding if the P150 is worth it (both in cost and in chance of having a bad PSU) or if I should get a better PSU with a slightly less ideal case style (for me :wink: )

Processor, I'm torn between the X2 3800, X2 4200 and an opteron 170
January 6, 2006 11:59:46 AM

Could be...If so then I retract the derogatory intent on the value RAM statement. I still stand behind the running value RAM async with OCing.

I personally think you're throwing too much money on the PSU. JMHO. I'd still go with the 3700+ or 4000+ for your usage. Build for today - not tomorrow. There is no performance gain for the now and by the time there are games that support dual core, you will want a new gaming rig. [/shrug]

Case: It's a personal decision on style, but the RC-531 is a well-designed case at a good price and that Enermax is a great PSU.
January 6, 2006 1:45:38 PM

Quote:
Looking for advice on my first build, done a fair amount of research and narrowed things down to the below.

Processor
Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2x512KB Manchester - $322
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2x512KB Manchester - $400
If I want good performance out of the box and maybe some mild OCing with stock cooler... thoughts?

MB
DFI nForce4 Ultra Infinity - $98 (worried that it is hard to troubleshoot and more likely to not like a component)
Epox 9NPA+ Ultra - $101 (worried about the USB 2.0 problems)
eVGA 133-K8-NF41 nForce 4 Athlon 64(FX) - $60 (free w/ 7800 GT, but 7800GT costs 60 more, so costs $60)... its a great price for an SLI board (don't expect to need SLI), but not sure how good the board is for OCing.

Ram
OCZ PC-4000 2x1024MB EL Gold - $210 (after rebate)
OCZ PC3200 2x1024MB 184-Pin DDR Platinum - $199.81 (after rebate)
Corsair PC-3200 2x1024MB ValueSelect - $164
Patriot PDC2G3200ELK 2GB Kit DDR400 PC3200 Eased Latency - $170

Graphics Card
7800 GT - ~300 (when I pull the trigger, will do a quick cost comp)
eVGA Geforce 6800GS - $184
Having trouble deciding if the performance boost is worth $116.

Hard Drive
Western Digital 3.0Gbps 250GB 7200RPM 8MB Caviar SE - $99

DVD drive
Will just pick, not a big concern.. maybe NEC DVDR ND-3550A or BenQ DVDR DQ60

Case
Antec P150 - $159


for the CPU, the 939 opterons are worth looking... all 1mb cache x2 so pick the smallest you can find,
use a low latency ram running 400mhz cas 2-3-3-8 or best performing with slight overclock over 400 for a 220 fsb with a 166:200 divider will rainse your cpu fsb to 266 mhz X Multi. this will get the smallest opteron ( 1.8ghz 1mb cache to near 2.4ghz 1mb cache which is the 4800+ setting.

and set the ht multi ( will change for each board. ) almost every boards will have these options but if you care about having 1:1 ratio, you can go for a dfi board and vx ocz ram. but expect a flawless power supply to avoid troubles. but with 512mb dimm­. and hell... get a dual core, i've seen what they will be able to do with future games and it's worth it.
once the game will be released for new multi cores consoles, all incoming releases will HIGHLY RECOMMEND dual core cpu. a few months and single core will be like actual celerons for games
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