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Is GPS a one way street? By that I mean is it possible to configure it
so that it will not only tell me where I am but report back to a
desktop--or some other device--that same information? I don't mean
doing it surreptitiously, I mean I wonder if the PDA, GPS or other
device/software can be setup so my PDA can be tracked?
>Is GPS a one way street? By that I mean is it possible to configure it
>so that it will not only tell me where I am but report back to a
>desktop--or some other device--that same information? I don't mean
>doing it surreptitiously, I mean I wonder if the PDA, GPS or other
>device/software can be setup so my PDA can be tracked?
>
>Help, anyone?
>
>Tim
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but you can get devices that can ? we have GPS tracking of early release
prisoners in the UK (I think) ?
david
"Bright Light" <Bright.NOSPAM.light@hccnet.nl> wrote in message
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> no, it's nothing like a mobile phone - it doesn't use any broadcast
> whatsoever.
> So, no, this cannot be done, ever!
>
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:50:33 -0300, TS Mathews <nospam@nospam.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>Is GPS a one way street? By that I mean is it possible to configure it
>>so that it will not only tell me where I am but report back to a
>>desktop--or some other device--that same information? I don't mean
>>doing it surreptitiously, I mean I wonder if the PDA, GPS or other
>>device/software can be setup so my PDA can be tracked?
>>
>>Help, anyone?
>>
>>Tim
>
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in general, the signal reporting your position (and perhaps other info) is
sent out over a cell-phone link, which is separate from the GPS. The GPS
provides the raw info, and the device "dials up" a cell phone connection (or
other radio link) and reports back.....
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And doesn't have to be a cell phone. Any other transmission system would
work, it's just not going back over the GPS system. Garmin even makes some
little handheld GPS and personal radio combos that can show your buddy's
location on your handset. http://www.garmin.com/products/rino/.
--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"Otto Mobile" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
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> in general, the signal reporting your position (and perhaps other info) is
> sent out over a cell-phone link, which is separate from the GPS. The GPS
> provides the raw info, and the device "dials up" a cell phone connection
(or
> other radio link) and reports back.....
>
>
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The route you take can be saved as a track after you've done your
travelling- at least on my garmin. I would expect this could be saved, but
I've not tried- and I'm sure if this would be suitable for your needs.
"Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> And doesn't have to be a cell phone. Any other transmission system would
> work, it's just not going back over the GPS system. Garmin even makes some
> little handheld GPS and personal radio combos that can show your buddy's
> location on your handset. http://www.garmin.com/products/rino/. >
> --
> Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> "Otto Mobile" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
> news:10jou1dpe40nee6@corp.supernews.com...
> > in general, the signal reporting your position (and perhaps other info)
is
> > sent out over a cell-phone link, which is separate from the GPS. The GPS
> > provides the raw info, and the device "dials up" a cell phone connection
> (or
> > other radio link) and reports back.....
> >
> >
>
>
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TS Mathews wrote:
> Is GPS a one way street? By that I mean is it possible to configure
> it so that it will not only tell me where I am but report back to a
> desktop--or some other device--that same information? I don't mean
> doing it surreptitiously, I mean I wonder if the PDA, GPS or other
> device/software can be setup so my PDA can be tracked?
>
> Help, anyone?
>
> Tim
As has already been pointed out, a GPS receiver is just that, a receiver.
To do what you wish you need another device to transmit the position such as
a cellphone.
FWIW, CoPilot Live, a PocketPC GPS Nav System has the ability when coupled
with a GPRS enabled cellphone to report it's position to a PC client.
--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.pocketgpsworld.com The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
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This response makes me think of another possibility. If you are just wanting
to know where your GPS has been, and don't need the real time update that
the radio would give you, there are some logging GPSs out there. One pretty
reasonable one is the Blue Logger by DeLorme. Unfortunately you need a PC to
read the stored track from it. (Works fine as a regular BT GPS with PPCs
though). There is one out there that has PPC software to read the tracks, if
this interests you.
--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"AlanS" <news@remove.abyz.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The route you take can be saved as a track after you've done your
> travelling- at least on my garmin. I would expect this could be saved, but
> I've not tried- and I'm sure if this would be suitable for your needs.
>
>
> "Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> newsJDtYjClEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > And doesn't have to be a cell phone. Any other transmission system would
> > work, it's just not going back over the GPS system. Garmin even makes
some
> > little handheld GPS and personal radio combos that can show your buddy's
> > location on your handset. http://www.garmin.com/products/rino/. > >
> > --
> > Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
> > "Otto Mobile" <nobody@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:10jou1dpe40nee6@corp.supernews.com...
> > > in general, the signal reporting your position (and perhaps other
info)
> is
> > > sent out over a cell-phone link, which is separate from the GPS. The
GPS
> > > provides the raw info, and the device "dials up" a cell phone
connection
> > (or
> > > other radio link) and reports back.....
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>This response makes me think of another possibility. If you are just wanting
>to know where your GPS has been, and don't need the real time update that
>the radio would give you, there are some logging GPSs out there. One pretty
>reasonable one is the Blue Logger by DeLorme. Unfortunately you need a PC to
>read the stored track from it. (Works fine as a regular BT GPS with PPCs
>though). There is one out there that has PPC software to read the tracks, if
>this interests you.
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Apparently this guy used GPS to 'stalk' his ex-girlfriend :
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/06/gps_stalker/ >
> Another (though less advisable!) possibility.
> Cheers - Neil
>
> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:30:37 -0600, "Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices"
> <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This response makes me think of another possibility. If you are just
>>wanting
>>to know where your GPS has been, and don't need the real time update that
>>the radio would give you, there are some logging GPSs out there. One
>>pretty
>>reasonable one is the Blue Logger by DeLorme. Unfortunately you need a PC
>>to
>>read the stored track from it. (Works fine as a regular BT GPS with PPCs
>>though). There is one out there that has PPC software to read the tracks,
>>if
>>this interests you.
>
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Mapopolis has "GPS Data Logging" which is pretty cool. It replays the
navigation map screen of any rout. You can see the route, speed, time. auto-
scroll, auto-zoom, auto-rotate and center view forward. in real time or
faster.
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Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices wrote:
> This response makes me think of another possibility. If you are just
> wanting to know where your GPS has been, and don't need the real time
> update that the radio would give you, there are some logging GPSs out
> there. One pretty reasonable one is the Blue Logger by DeLorme.
> Unfortunately you need a PC to read the stored track from it. (Works
> fine as a regular BT GPS with PPCs though). There is one out there
> that has PPC software to read the tracks, if this interests you.
The datalogger GPS receiver with PPC Client Software is the Royaltek
RBT3000.
--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.pocketgpsworld.com The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
At least The Register got the technicalities correct, the other news pages
reporting this described a contraption that used a mobile phone to transmit
location information to a satellite! Utter rubbish but it does make it
sound more James Bond!
--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.pocketgpsworld.com The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums
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Darren Griffin - PocketGPS wrote:
> TS Mathews wrote:
>
>>Is GPS a one way street? By that I mean is it possible to configure
>>it so that it will not only tell me where I am but report back to a
>>desktop--or some other device--that same information? I don't mean
>>doing it surreptitiously, I mean I wonder if the PDA, GPS or other
>>device/software can be setup so my PDA can be tracked?
>>
>>Help, anyone?
>>
>>Tim
>
>
> As has already been pointed out, a GPS receiver is just that, a receiver.
> To do what you wish you need another device to transmit the position such as
> a cellphone.
>
> FWIW, CoPilot Live, a PocketPC GPS Nav System has the ability when coupled
> with a GPRS enabled cellphone to report it's position to a PC client.
>
I was all but positive that GPS was one way but am totally new to the
concept. A transit driver, I find myself wondering more and more as I
read about hot spots, wi fi, bluetooth etc, if some sort of combination
of the above couldn't easily replace the $2.5 million radio/bus tracking
system in use by my city. I was a total novice to pda's when I bought
my Dell a year ago--initially just to carry lots of books etc for
entertainment during down time--but, as I said, it occurs to me that a
pda with gps and some other software might replace our system, be much
more reliable and far more accurate. I've read enough to know that my
Dell Axim can easily tell me where I am at all times during my drive and
the more I think about it, it seems like there should be a way for me to
then retransmit that data back to a control centre. I'd think they
could also, transit necessary information to me like detours etc. So,
does this sound doable or am I really out there in left field somewhere?
>I was all but positive that GPS was one way but am totally new to the
>concept. A transit driver, I find myself wondering more and more as I
>read about hot spots, wi fi, bluetooth etc, if some sort of combination
>I've read enough to know that my
>Dell Axim can easily tell me where I am at all times during my drive and
<snip>
>I'd think they
>could also, transit necessary information to me like detours etc. So,
>does this sound doable or am I really out there in left field somewhere?
There's definitely software to tell you about detours, often it's
hooked in to a mobile phone (either IR or bluetooth or....) so you get
live-ish traffic reports. Just cant remember the name of it right now
;-)
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It's absolutely doable, but if you were going to use GPS as the basis and
you add up the PPCs, the accessories for power, the radio systems, be they
WiFi or cell based, the receiving system (city wide remember), the fact that
GPS does have more problems in an urban canyon environment, the
infrastructure to get it all back to a central location, the hardware and
software at the location, the development to make this easy to use for the
folks that would typically need to operate it, the logistics tail, etc.
$2.5M doesn't seem out of line, and I don't even know how big a city we are
talking about. Making a system for one guy to know where is car is (with
his teenager in it) doesn't scale linearly to a city wide bus tracking
system.
--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"TS Mathews" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
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> Darren Griffin - PocketGPS wrote:
> > TS Mathews wrote:
> >
> >>Is GPS a one way street? By that I mean is it possible to configure
> >>it so that it will not only tell me where I am but report back to a
> >>desktop--or some other device--that same information? I don't mean
> >>doing it surreptitiously, I mean I wonder if the PDA, GPS or other
> >>device/software can be setup so my PDA can be tracked?
> >>
> >>Help, anyone?
> >>
> >>Tim
> >
> >
> > As has already been pointed out, a GPS receiver is just that, a
receiver.
> > To do what you wish you need another device to transmit the position
such as
> > a cellphone.
> >
> > FWIW, CoPilot Live, a PocketPC GPS Nav System has the ability when
coupled
> > with a GPRS enabled cellphone to report it's position to a PC client.
> >
> I was all but positive that GPS was one way but am totally new to the
> concept. A transit driver, I find myself wondering more and more as I
> read about hot spots, wi fi, bluetooth etc, if some sort of combination
> of the above couldn't easily replace the $2.5 million radio/bus tracking
> system in use by my city. I was a total novice to pda's when I bought
> my Dell a year ago--initially just to carry lots of books etc for
> entertainment during down time--but, as I said, it occurs to me that a
> pda with gps and some other software might replace our system, be much
> more reliable and far more accurate. I've read enough to know that my
> Dell Axim can easily tell me where I am at all times during my drive and
> the more I think about it, it seems like there should be a way for me to
> then retransmit that data back to a control centre. I'd think they
> could also, transit necessary information to me like detours etc. So,
> does this sound doable or am I really out there in left field somewhere?
>
> Tim
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