Hello this is my first post here. I figured I'd ask on this forum mainly because you all seem to have very high technical understandings of all things related to PCs and this place seems civil enough where I won't get snide remarks or lewd comments. I have several questions I will get to one way or another in this post.
First of all here is the log of CPU Z for my PC so you can see what my system is.
CPU-Z Report
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CPU-Z version 1.31.
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)
CPU#1 APIC ID = 0
Name Intel Pentium 4 560
Code Name Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 3 4
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Package LGA775
Core Stepping D0
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
CPU Clock Speed 3591.0 MHz
Clock multiplier x 18.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 199.5 MHz
Bus Speed 798.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 1024 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3591.0 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits
CPU#2 APIC ID = 1
CPU Name Intel Pentium 4 560 (logical unit)
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer Dell Inc.
Motherboard model 0J3492,
BIOS vendor Dell Inc.
BIOS revision A03
BIOS release date 10/11/2004
Chipset Intel i925X rev. B1
Southbridge Intel 82801FB (ICH6) rev. 03
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory
DRAM Type DDR2-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 266.0 MHz
FSBRAM 3:4
CAS# Latency 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge 4 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 11 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Samsung DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Samsung DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
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Here's my situation. I've got $400 to spend and I want to start upgrading my year old PC. I would like to buy a better video card (my current is an OC ATI Radeon X300SE) but many of the cards I want are expensive and would require a larger power supply than what I currently have. Also possibly installing more fans. I don't really want to be bothered with switching a power supply just to have a better video card -- maybe some time in the future though. Based on what I've read on the Internet over the years RAM is the best way to get your "bang for the buck" and increase performance if you're upgrading. Here's what I've narrowed it down to consider buying.
2 GB of the Corsair XMS 2 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit (I'm assuming its well over $400 though and I can't find the dual channel kit on Newegg or eBay so probably not this)
Corsair XMS2 2 GB 675 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit- $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145015
Patriot 2 GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit - $365.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220144
Patriot 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit - $189.99 - Many complaints about heat spreaders missing but much cheaper than Corsair
I could also get 2 of those to get 4 GB for approx $380. The Corsair below would be cheaper but not dual channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220064
I saw this and noticed the price - 2 GB CORSAIR Value Select 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM - Only $177!
I could just buy 2 orders of this and max out the RAM on my PC (Its a Dell Dimension 8400, supports up to 4GB dual channel DDR2 SDRAM).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145098
Ok now heres my questions:
1) How can I determine the maximum speed in MHz for RAM my motherboard supports?
I currently have 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM but like I mentioned I want to upgrade and at least double my current memory and with faster speeds if possible.
2) a) Does it matter if the memory is for dual channel or not?
b) If all 4 memory slots are occupied with the same size and speed RAM wouldn't it work as dual channel anyway?
3) a) What would you recommend I buy from those choices I listed?
b) Is the XMS2 series that much better than the Value Select series by Corsair?
c) Is Corsair that much better than Patriot or is just another case of paying for a name?
4) a) Why is my processor's clock speed at 3591 MHz and not its rated 3600 MHz? (A small difference I know, but I'm just curious)
b) Same thing -- Why is my FSB at 798 MHz and not 800 Mhz?
c) How can I increase both to their rated speeds? (It just annoys me lol)
5) a) What kind of performance increases can I expect going from 1 GB to 2 GB or from 1 GB to 4 GB of RAM?
b) Is it worth it?
Thats all I can think of right now.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you to anyone who spent the time to read this lengthy post and to anyone who actually answers.
First of all here is the log of CPU Z for my PC so you can see what my system is.
CPU-Z Report
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CPU-Z version 1.31.
CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)
CPU#1 APIC ID = 0
Name Intel Pentium 4 560
Code Name Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 3 4
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Package LGA775
Core Stepping D0
Technology 90 nm
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
CPU Clock Speed 3591.0 MHz
Clock multiplier x 18.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 199.5 MHz
Bus Speed 798.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 1024 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3591.0 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits
CPU#2 APIC ID = 1
CPU Name Intel Pentium 4 560 (logical unit)
Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer Dell Inc.
Motherboard model 0J3492,
BIOS vendor Dell Inc.
BIOS revision A03
BIOS release date 10/11/2004
Chipset Intel i925X rev. B1
Southbridge Intel 82801FB (ICH6) rev. 03
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory
DRAM Type DDR2-SDRAM
DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 266.0 MHz
FSBRAM 3:4
CAS# Latency 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge 4 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 11 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Samsung DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 512 MBytes
Module 1 Samsung DDR2-SDRAM PC4300 - 512 MBytes
Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
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Here's my situation. I've got $400 to spend and I want to start upgrading my year old PC. I would like to buy a better video card (my current is an OC ATI Radeon X300SE) but many of the cards I want are expensive and would require a larger power supply than what I currently have. Also possibly installing more fans. I don't really want to be bothered with switching a power supply just to have a better video card -- maybe some time in the future though. Based on what I've read on the Internet over the years RAM is the best way to get your "bang for the buck" and increase performance if you're upgrading. Here's what I've narrowed it down to consider buying.
2 GB of the Corsair XMS 2 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit (I'm assuming its well over $400 though and I can't find the dual channel kit on Newegg or eBay so probably not this)
Corsair XMS2 2 GB 675 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit- $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145015
Patriot 2 GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit - $365.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220144
Patriot 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit - $189.99 - Many complaints about heat spreaders missing but much cheaper than Corsair
I could also get 2 of those to get 4 GB for approx $380. The Corsair below would be cheaper but not dual channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220064
I saw this and noticed the price - 2 GB CORSAIR Value Select 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM - Only $177!
I could just buy 2 orders of this and max out the RAM on my PC (Its a Dell Dimension 8400, supports up to 4GB dual channel DDR2 SDRAM).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145098
Ok now heres my questions:
1) How can I determine the maximum speed in MHz for RAM my motherboard supports?
I currently have 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM but like I mentioned I want to upgrade and at least double my current memory and with faster speeds if possible.
2) a) Does it matter if the memory is for dual channel or not?
b) If all 4 memory slots are occupied with the same size and speed RAM wouldn't it work as dual channel anyway?
3) a) What would you recommend I buy from those choices I listed?
b) Is the XMS2 series that much better than the Value Select series by Corsair?
c) Is Corsair that much better than Patriot or is just another case of paying for a name?
4) a) Why is my processor's clock speed at 3591 MHz and not its rated 3600 MHz? (A small difference I know, but I'm just curious)
b) Same thing -- Why is my FSB at 798 MHz and not 800 Mhz?
c) How can I increase both to their rated speeds? (It just annoys me lol)
5) a) What kind of performance increases can I expect going from 1 GB to 2 GB or from 1 GB to 4 GB of RAM?
b) Is it worth it?
Thats all I can think of right now.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you to anyone who spent the time to read this lengthy post and to anyone who actually answers.