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January 12, 2006 7:45:55 PM

Hi. How can i clean my computer cuz there a LOT of dust and i dont wanna broke anything so i dont wanna remove my cpu fan and heatsink for cleaning. How can i do without removing things? I wanna clean cuz i get overheating problems.

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January 12, 2006 8:05:59 PM

ok, compressed air will get rid of the dust bunnies in the dificult places aka HSF, and i would use a cloth on the bottom and sides(not on any of the components though).

for everything else you gotta use compressed air.

may i ask what are your system specs? and how many fans are there in your system and where are they placed?

more fans on the front and back with dust filters will help cooling and any future dust problem.
January 12, 2006 8:34:03 PM

Alright. My specs is:
CPU Pentium4 2.0 GHZ
Videocard Geforce3 TI 200 256 mb
512 MB RAM
80GB hard disk 7200 RPM
SB live! sound card
unknow network card.
Motherboard: ASUS P4S8X-X

I got 5 fans.
CPU fan (stock) 2700 RPM MAX
PS fan (no sensor)
GPU fan (very small fan)
a kind of black fan between graphic card and sound card(no sensor)
a big desktop fan pointing at hard disk and CPU (i always keep my chasis open cuz it overheat)

all my cards are backward.
here a screenshot of temps and things:

http://tinypic.com/k2micn.png
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January 12, 2006 8:43:35 PM

erm looking at that screenie those temperatures are perfect quite low actually. im guessing that the overheating occurs in games and is giving you problems?

if not then the temps there are fine, the high CPU utilization at certain points is probably just the system starting to show its age, i would recommend backing everything up and doing a fresh windows install, that will get rid of any spyware/adware and give you a fresh start.

that black fan between the GFX and sound card does it extract air to the outside of the case? i would recommend removing it unless its a mini atx system those fans have been proven to make temps worse in full size cases but better in the smaller cases...but like ive already stated your temperatures look fine. if you have a fan space on the back i would recommend a fan be placed there to extract the hot air. and remove the pci fan, and cover the space back up with the pci cover.

my AMD idles at 38, and on load goes to 45.... with stock cooling.

also see if theres a fan space at the front bottom of the case and install a fan there, 1 fan at front bringing in cold air and one at back getting rid off the hot air...
January 12, 2006 8:48:45 PM

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erm looking at that screenie those temperatures are perfect quite low actually. im guessing that the overheating occurs in games and is giving you problems?

if not then the temps there are fine, the high CPU utilization at certain points is probably just the system starting to show its age, i would recommend backing everything up and doing a fresh windows install, that will get rid of any spyware/adware and give you a fresh start.

that black fan between the GFX and sound card does it extract air to the outside of the case? i would recommend removing it unless its a mini atx system those fans have been proven to make temps worse in full size cases but better in the smaller cases...but like ive already stated your temperatures look fine. if you have a fan space on the back i would recommend a fan be placed there to extract the hot air. and remove the pci fan, and cover the space back up with the pci cover.

my AMD idles at 38, and on load goes to 45.... with stock cooling.


i know my temps is fine but when i put the chasis on idle is 35 - 40 and when i run a game, with open it go to 45 but when i run a game with chasis closed, it goes to 65 and my comp shut down.
January 12, 2006 8:53:21 PM

and for the fan between GFX and sound card, its a kind of blower because its open on side of GFX card but closed at sound card. i think its a blower.
Sry for double post
January 12, 2006 10:42:06 PM

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Hi. How can i clean my computer cuz there a LOT of dust and i dont wanna broke anything so i dont wanna remove my cpu fan and heatsink for cleaning. How can i do without removing things? I wanna clean cuz i get overheating problems.


Once you get it clean, I suggest you take a look at the airflow path through your case, and maybe change your fans around to improve it. You should not have to have your case open (Most cases are designed to be cooler closed than open, because of airflow paths). This is why you are getting dust problems and having to worry about cleaning so much. You should make sure that your fans move air in a clean flow either from front to back, or back to front depending on your case design. You should also make sure that no fan is working against the overall air flow of your system. You should not have any problem keeping your case within tolerable temps with the case closed.

Also, are you sure the thermal compound between your processor and HSF is applied correctly and still good? This can make a large difference.
January 12, 2006 10:51:37 PM

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Hi. How can i clean my computer cuz there a LOT of dust and i dont wanna broke anything so i dont wanna remove my cpu fan and heatsink for cleaning. How can i do without removing things? I wanna clean cuz i get overheating problems.


Also, are you sure the thermal compound between your processor and HSF is applied correctly and still good? This can make a large difference.

I dont know because i dint't build my computer. I buyed with stock pentium and motherboard and i send it to a small buisness to get upgraded videocard, motherboard, PCI card slots USB slots and SPS.
I dont wanna check if there is any paste cuz i dont wanna broke anything.
Cotton swambs are good to clean all?
January 12, 2006 11:13:19 PM

If you are going to use cotton swabs, I would dip them in high purity (80-90%) rubbing alcohol first. It will keep the fibers down while acting as a cleaning fluid that will not harm the PC. If you have to, you can use normal household (70%) rubbing alcohol.
January 13, 2006 1:46:58 AM

but liquid dont harm the system?
January 13, 2006 1:07:15 PM

On the topic of cleaning..what is the best way to clean old thermal paste to reapply more?
January 13, 2006 4:03:52 PM

Same way as above, high purity rubbing alcohol and cotton swabs.
January 13, 2006 8:00:34 PM

But i don't have alcohol so can i use normal cotton swambs?

Do i need to clean the right-down corner? there is no PC things but a lot of dust.
January 13, 2006 9:20:51 PM

vacuum cleaner!
works wonderful in extreme cases.

you can slso take the cards out of your system, dust them off with a towel or something.. blow the dust out yourself & re-insert.

personally I preferr to take eveything out, clean it off good.. wipe out the bottom of my case, remove heat sinks from CPUs and wash them. new thermal paste and away you go.

Also for the overheating.. also make sure your case as enough room outside it for air to get in and out. close against a wall, or inside of a closed up computer desk are bad places.
January 13, 2006 10:16:02 PM

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vacuum cleaner!
works wonderful in extreme cases.

you can slso take the cards out of your system, dust them off with a towel or something.. blow the dust out yourself & re-insert.

personally I preferr to take eveything out, clean it off good.. wipe out the bottom of my case, remove heat sinks from CPUs and wash them. new thermal paste and away you go.

Also for the overheating.. also make sure your case as enough room outside it for air to get in and out. close against a wall, or inside of a closed up computer desk are bad places.


i dont want to take off anything because i dont wanna broke anything
and my computer is case opened with a big desktop fan
January 14, 2006 3:33:09 PM

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That makes sense why you get so much dust.
Get a better case! :idea:

i got a pretty big case with a lot of holes in it.
January 14, 2006 10:18:49 PM

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But i don't have alcohol so can i use normal cotton swambs?


Only if you use 70%+ alcohol. Otherwise static might build between the fibres and short your system.
January 15, 2006 2:48:57 AM

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But i don't have alcohol so can i use normal cotton swambs?


Only if you use 70%+ alcohol. Otherwise static might build between the fibres and short your system.
static? but i don't have alcool. exept beer :wink:
January 15, 2006 3:42:45 AM

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But i don't have alcohol so can i use normal cotton swambs?


Only if you use 70%+ alcohol. Otherwise static might build between the fibres and short your system.
static? but i don't have alcool. exept beer :wink:

The cheap stuff it like $2 at the local drug store. Spring for it, its better than frying a component and being out maybe a couple hundred. Plus it cleans better.
January 15, 2006 5:07:01 AM

I just cleaned my computer and my CPU temp reducted by 5 celcius!
its now at 25 celcius. I clean dust in fans with cotton swabs.
January 15, 2006 11:50:01 AM

NOTE :!: when using a vacuum cleaner ,it is recommended that you use the plastic mouthpiece and carefully keep a good distance from the mobo components to avoid a sudden static discharge (very little it cant be seen of felt) that can fry something n damage it.
January 15, 2006 7:54:29 PM

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NOTE :!: when using a vacuum cleaner ,it is recommended that you use the plastic mouthpiece and carefully keep a good distance from the mobo components to avoid a sudden static discharge (very little it cant be seen of felt) that can fry something n damage it.

how can i fry something with static? It need a REALLY BIG discharge to fry...
January 15, 2006 9:33:46 PM

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how can i fry something with static? It need a REALLY BIG discharge to fry...


thats not true my friend,.............YES YOU CAN!! (simple Physics)

when handling components it is advised to ground yourself ,machine and wear a static band round your wrist. This is not only "really big" discharges but for the tiney unfelt ones that also cause damage.
see- http://homepages.pavilion.co.uk/jeremys/

@ wusy
Most people unplug their Power units when opening thier PCs.
January 16, 2006 10:30:31 AM

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Then people should be educated to only switch off the PSU at the back before opening a PC like I do. Eliminates the need for crappy wrist band.


erm no people unplug them cause there still electricity in the transistors, which hold enough to eltrocute you even when turned off. personnally i dont wear a wrist band waste of time just hold everything by the corners most chipsets have enough space at the corners to prevent you frying anything.

also you should know that sweaty or damp or hands you just washed can killl boards, just the oil on your fingers can slowly corrode the components.

if your really worried then use one of those wrist bands that has the socket that earths you through the main socket.
January 16, 2006 7:11:29 PM

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erm no people unplug them cause there still electricity in the transistors, which hold enough to eltrocute you even when turned off. personnally i dont wear a wrist band waste of time just hold everything by the corners most chipsets have enough space at the corners to prevent you frying anything


Just to clear things up, the PSU acts the same from a current standpoint whether you turn it off, or unplug it. It still holds electricity that can electrocute you. And it is the capacitors that hold the residual electrical charge, not the transistors.

For the record, I don't use the wristband either. In most houses, if you leave the PSU plugged in, you can ground yourself on the side of your case first if it is metal.
January 16, 2006 10:11:58 PM

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And it is the capacitors that hold the residual electrical charge, not the transistors.


thought so just couldnt remember which at the time. yes it still does hold electricity but if you leave it for awhile that electricity will discharge eventually, its still safer unplugging it and grounding yourself but like i said before i dont see the point in those wrist bands.
January 16, 2006 10:20:22 PM

Be aware that some of the larger caps in PSUs and Monitors can hold their charge for close to a year or more (at least sometimes).
January 16, 2006 11:13:17 PM

A solution to further enhance your cooling efficency of your case fans..

http://overclockers.com/tips1187/

I did this on my A64-3000 Newcastle and the results were significant:D  !

Benchmarks were done with Prime95 and a Stock HSF(1800rpm)

Before
Idle - 45C+/-
Load - 55+/- (and during the summer, sometimes 60C+ !!!)

After
Idle - 25C+/-
Load - 35-40C
January 17, 2006 1:32:12 AM

When i clean my computer, i turn off my PSU behind my computer and the light on my MB turn off. When it turn off, it means no more electricity remaining. And now my idle is 25-30C and on load: 35-40C but i always need a big fan beside my comp and it blow some shit like dust and papers. I found a large paper sheet in my computer yesterday.
But now i worry about my hard disk. My hard disk is at 36 C and when i touch it, its really hot!
January 17, 2006 2:46:51 AM

35C is fine for your HD. You really should consider closing your case. If the air is blowing all around and sucking up papers, you have an airflow problem. You will have less problems with a closed case, and less cleaning.

Your temps look good now by the way.

The light on the motherboard going out means no active connection, however, I gaurantee there is still power in a few of the caps in your PSU. If you were to bridge the two polls on a large one (DON"T!!), you would get electricuted. Just warning you so you don't have a false sense of security.
January 17, 2006 5:39:18 AM

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ok, compressed air will get rid of the dust bunnies in the dificult places aka HSF, and i would use a cloth on the bottom and sides(not on any of the components though).

for everything else you gotta use compressed air.

may i ask what are your system specs? and how many fans are there in your system and where are they placed?

more fans on the front and back with dust filters will help cooling and any future dust problem.


I have a case with 5 fans. I think the front fans have dust filters but no the rest. 2 up front blows in air and 2 in the back and 1 on top blows out. So where can you get some dust filters and how do you install them? Fairly simple I assume? :twisted:
January 17, 2006 5:44:00 AM

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High purity alcohol evapourates so quickly you wouldn't even know it.
Alcohol does not equal water so it can't help oxygen to oxidise anything.


How about using a swift duster? not whiping the mobo part but other parts like the HD or inside the bottom of the case???? :twisted:
January 17, 2006 11:31:44 AM

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High purity alcohol evapourates so quickly you wouldn't even know it.
Alcohol does not equal water so it can't help oxygen to oxidise anything.


How about using a swift duster? not whiping the mobo part but other parts like the HD or inside the bottom of the case???? :twisted:

Compressed air or vacumn still works better.
January 17, 2006 7:37:30 PM

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High purity alcohol evapourates so quickly you wouldn't even know it.
Alcohol does not equal water so it can't help oxygen to oxidise anything.


How about using a swift duster? not whiping the mobo part but other parts like the HD or inside the bottom of the case???? :twisted:

Compressed air or vacumn still works better.

vacumn dont damage my computer parts?
January 17, 2006 9:15:49 PM

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ok, compressed air will get rid of the dust bunnies in the dificult places aka HSF, and i would use a cloth on the bottom and sides(not on any of the components though).

for everything else you gotta use compressed air.

may i ask what are your system specs? and how many fans are there in your system and where are they placed?

more fans on the front and back with dust filters will help cooling and any future dust problem.


I have a case with 5 fans. I think the front fans have dust filters but no the rest. 2 up front blows in air and 2 in the back and 1 on top blows out. So where can you get some dust filters and how do you install them? Fairly simple I assume? :twisted:

the dust filters just go over the fan and then you install the fan with slightly longer screws, ive heard people use things like old tights as dust filters but you can buy proper ones in a shop. just use them on the fans that bring in air.
January 18, 2006 1:33:34 AM

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ok, compressed air will get rid of the dust bunnies in the dificult places aka HSF, and i would use a cloth on the bottom and sides(not on any of the components though).

for everything else you gotta use compressed air.

may i ask what are your system specs? and how many fans are there in your system and where are they placed?

more fans on the front and back with dust filters will help cooling and any future dust problem.


I have a case with 5 fans. I think the front fans have dust filters but no the rest. 2 up front blows in air and 2 in the back and 1 on top blows out. So where can you get some dust filters and how do you install them? Fairly simple I assume? :twisted:

the dust filters just go over the fan and then you install the fan with slightly longer screws, ive heard people use things like old tights as dust filters but you can buy proper ones in a shop. just use them on the fans that bring in air.

Do you mean we can make home made dust filter?
January 18, 2006 6:30:53 AM

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ok, compressed air will get rid of the dust bunnies in the dificult places aka HSF, and i would use a cloth on the bottom and sides(not on any of the components though).

for everything else you gotta use compressed air.

may i ask what are your system specs? and how many fans are there in your system and where are they placed?

more fans on the front and back with dust filters will help cooling and any future dust problem.


I have a case with 5 fans. I think the front fans have dust filters but no the rest. 2 up front blows in air and 2 in the back and 1 on top blows out. So where can you get some dust filters and how do you install them? Fairly simple I assume? :twisted:

the dust filters just go over the fan and then you install the fan with slightly longer screws, ive heard people use things like old tights as dust filters but you can buy proper ones in a shop. just use them on the fans that bring in air.

I have 2 fan blowing air in. Is that good enough to cool a case? they are 80mm. What is the recommended? :twisted:
January 18, 2006 7:38:49 AM

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Stop making excuses. People don't poke their finger into the PSU unless your hand was made in Japan.


Ummm...OK. :roll: :twisted:
January 18, 2006 9:49:49 AM

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Stop making excuses. People don't poke their finger into the PSU unless your hand was made in Japan.


lol.

normally recommend one bringing in air and one taking it out, at the moment i have a 120 at the front and two 80 at the back, and then the fans on the PSU also. what you have should be fine.
January 18, 2006 7:50:14 PM

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Stop making excuses. People don't poke their finger into the PSU unless your hand was made in Japan.


lol.

normally recommend one bringing in air and one taking it out, at the moment i have a 120 at the front and two 80 at the back, and then the fans on the PSU also. what you have should be fine.

Like you your rig set up. What does it mean when people say SIG??? :twisted:
January 18, 2006 9:04:45 PM

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Stop making excuses. People don't poke their finger into the PSU unless your hand was made in Japan.

I can touch the PSU when the power is on but not IN the PSU.
March 2, 2006 7:49:02 AM

Maybe just leave the vacuum cleaner on and sticking into the case. That will suck out the excess hot air while you play games.
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