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Razor CopperHead, Laser Mouse!! Beware

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January 13, 2006 12:33:15 AM

I bought this mouse 2 weeks ago. I had a gift card for Best Buy ($20). Read several reviews on it after I bought it. None the less, the reviews I read up on after I bought it were right on the nose.

Yes, Laser mouse's are the way to go for a complete gamer as myself. But listen, this Copperhead Laser, sometimes would not turn on with the computer, thus you would have to unplug the USB, and plug back in. As well as, the Lens would easily get dirty on a brand new mouse pad. Which if you don't know this will stop your movements, or make them jumpy at times.

I've taken it back, now I'm trying Microsoft’s 6000 laser. If you have big hands, like myself, not the mouse for you. I'm 6'2, 210, with above average size hands. The mouse is too low to give you comfort, since your palm has no resting spot. Your upper palm will start to ache after an hour of game play. In all though, still much better then my old Logitech 510. Laser mice are just so smooth, and accurate.

Tomorrow though, I am taken this Laser mouse back, since I was trying to go the cheap way to have a laser. I'm exchanging it for a Logitech G5.

I will edit my review later in the weekend after I've tried it for a couple days.

Just wanted to let you gamers know, the Copperhead, is not a mouse a gamer needs!!
January 13, 2006 3:40:39 PM

the g5 is a nice choice. i have the g7, the switch between optical and laser was like night and day. i used a belkin optical(unsure of the model) and the dpi was probably only 800 or so, the 2000 dpi on the g5/g7 is amazing. this thing is so much more sensitive and accurate, which means a lot in gaming.
January 14, 2006 7:03:14 AM

Honestly, i wouldn't recommend a Razer mouse to anybody.. unless you want diformed fingers lol!

I'm using a Razer Diamondback atm. (for 1,5 years.. over 8 hours a day use..) Keep index on left button, middle finger on right button, ring finger and teh pinky on the side.. During gaming i tend to push the ring finger and pinky a lil against the side.. so now both fingers turned abit clockwise..

So... Logitech G5 silver edition will be something i'll be buying in 2 weeks..
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January 14, 2006 7:25:46 AM

Yes, the Logitech G5 is a very nice laser mouse.. Don't know why I just didn't go with it from the start... Well, I know, my computer lighting is blue, and so was the Copperhead I bought!! LOL... STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!! :roll:

Used the G5 for hours now, can't complain one bit!! Love the texture of the mouse too!!

So, yes, go Logitech, if going to a gaming laser mouse!!
January 14, 2006 8:37:48 AM

Go for G5 for no diformed fingers! (its 59,99 euro here tho.. expensive @_@)
January 15, 2006 9:26:15 PM

go with the MX1000 its perfect for games, it doesnt have the fancy dpi options but you dont need them, and b4 anyone says something ive tried other mice and dont like them the bigger size of the MX1000 makes it very comfortable on my hands and lets me play longer. btw im also 6 foot 2.
January 16, 2006 5:52:04 AM

Now that I've looked at the MX1000, yeah, doesn't look like a bad mouse, actually, looks like the same thing as the G5. So, looks like it's just a choice of corded, or cordless, lol. But still, laser is the way to go any way you look at it. I will never go back! Cordless always got me scared, because of battery life, and lag. But, from what it says, there is no difference. So, maybe by the time this G5 is crap, I'll invest in a cordless.

Really, I had a cordless once, 2yrs. ago. It took AA batteries. Well, it hit a wall going about 90mph. She didn't make it, lol. So said I would never get cordless again. lol.

Lith. Ion battery, how many hours before it does dead, and how long before it fully recharges?

Hmm, just read here that the G7, give you a secondary battery, recharges in 2hrs. Wow, Mice coming out the woodwork. http://reviews.designtechnica.com/review3352.html
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a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2006 7:51:58 AM

Go for the G5 or G7. I had the MX 1000 and it's just too heavy.

As for the Razors: HANDS OFF. I had two razors in my career and the were both faulty from the start. I would never buy one again.
January 16, 2006 10:25:13 AM

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Go for the G5 or G7. I had the MX 1000 and it's just too heavy.

As for the Razors: HANDS OFF. I had two razors in my career and the were both faulty from the start. I would never buy one again.


i suppose the the weight is personal preference, i dont think the MX1000 feels heavy at all. as for battery life it depends how much you use it i use mine every day heavily and it'll last about 3 days before a recharge, i dont normally wait that long i leave it on charge everynight, the nice thing bout this mouse is there is no lag which was my biggest concern at the time going from wired to wireless.
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a b K Overclocking
January 16, 2006 12:51:28 PM

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Go for the G5 or G7. I had the MX 1000 and it's just too heavy.

As for the Razors: HANDS OFF. I had two razors in my career and the were both faulty from the start. I would never buy one again.


i suppose the the weight is personal preference, i dont think the MX1000 feels heavy at all. as for battery life it depends how much you use it i use mine every day heavily and it'll last about 3 days before a recharge, i dont normally wait that long i leave it on charge everynight, the nice thing bout this mouse is there is no lag which was my biggest concern at the time going from wired to wireless.


You don't think it's heavy? I haven't had a heavier mouse ever. But if you like it...
January 19, 2006 8:03:27 PM

I couldn't agree more. I wound up with my g7 cos the copperhead I bought didn't like my new PC.

The G7 is awesome except that the battery life is a little low. However, it comes with 2 large batteries so you can swap them in and out in a flash.

it's wireless and extremely responsive. Unfortunately, I bought mine @ best buy (yeah, yeah. I should have known better) for $100...Newegg has it for $60
January 27, 2006 6:32:04 PM

I might recommend you go with the mx1000 if you like a bigger mouse but still want laser. It's only good for about a year or two, but it's an awesome mouse while it lasts. My battery wigged out on me a few days ago, and can't be replaced. I have the G5 now, and its a little smaller. That said, they're two completely different mice...the placement of the lens in the G5 is much better for stable movement IMHO. I miss having all the buttons that the mx1000 had though... The G5 just has 1 extra.
March 6, 2006 12:27:07 PM

Another G5 fan here! :D 

I've had a few mice in my gaming time like many of us have and I can agree that the G5 has been the best so far. Razor mice have never been comfortable for me at all and wouldn't buy another without testing them first.

I think one of the best features of the G5 is the cartridge for the weights, as this makes getting the mouse to the perfect weight for you a breeze.

For me it does have one downfall and that is that it only has one side button. This button defaults as a "back page" facility in IE but it would be nice to have a "forward" button as well.

In games, being able to change the dpi settings whilst in game is fantastic because sometimes the full 2000 dpi is a bit too sensitive for me.
March 6, 2006 12:52:25 PM

Quote:
Go for the G5 or G7. I had the MX 1000 and it's just too heavy.

As for the Razors: HANDS OFF. I had two razors in my career and the were both faulty from the start. I would never buy one again.


i suppose the the weight is personal preference, i dont think the MX1000 feels heavy at all. as for battery life it depends how much you use it i use mine every day heavily and it'll last about 3 days before a recharge, i dont normally wait that long i leave it on charge everynight, the nice thing bout this mouse is there is no lag which was my biggest concern at the time going from wired to wireless.
Yes, u gotta love the mx1000, great cordless mouse, and about being heavy, it helps on the accuracy. Not to mention the full hand support...
Cons: €80
March 6, 2006 12:54:56 PM

Ahh, the MX1000 :D 
Had this mouse for nearly a year and it rocks! Love the response and feel of the mouse. Very nice button placement, even for us big hand types. Recommended.
March 6, 2006 2:25:40 PM

yeah im an mx1000 user, also, as we all see to be sharing this information 6 foot 2 lol, im 6 foot 2, not the mouse, just want to make that clear

that would be a sodding big mouse

anywayyy

mx1000 lovely, and the vertical charger stand thing is ace
March 6, 2006 2:48:33 PM

I too experienced the dissapointment in the Copperhead.

I used a Diamondback for about a year and a half, the most amazing mouse I have ever (and now still) used. However, I didn't see any difference in performance from the lazer copperhead and 2000DPI LED based Diamonback.

So I took the cash I droped on the copperhead and bought a DVD burner. So my suggestion until Laser mice get cheap. Go with a diamonback they have identical performance, run great, they are comfortable and best of all they be much cheaper.
March 6, 2006 3:27:29 PM

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I might recommend you go with the mx1000 if you like a bigger mouse but still want laser. It's only good for about a year or two, but it's an awesome mouse while it lasts. My battery wigged out on me a few days ago, and can't be replaced. I have the G5 now, and its a little smaller. That said, they're two completely different mice...the placement of the lens in the G5 is much better for stable movement IMHO. I miss having all the buttons that the mx1000 had though... The G5 just has 1 extra.


i had a bit of a problem with the battery awhile back(wouldnt charge) turned out all i had to do was clean the gold contacts and it worked perfect again, had the mouse for about 2yr and a half...so its well worth the money.
March 6, 2006 11:23:01 PM

The Razer Copperhead Is the best mouse to date. If you don't know that, its because your a :roll: noob. Sorry :( 
March 9, 2006 10:02:38 AM

I got the Bluetooth MX1000 (Are they all?) with the MX5000 keyboard, and I love it. It was a bit of an adjustment from my MS Explorer, but it's nice, light for a wireless, accurate, and the battery lasts me a fairly long time (I get about a week out of it, and charge it at 1 bar).

My only real complaint about it is that the Setpoint software seems to have a problem. I'll have to reinstall it from the CD and see if that fixes the issue though.
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a b K Overclocking
March 9, 2006 10:34:18 AM

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The Razer Copperhead Is the best mouse to date. If you don't know that, its because your a :roll: noob. Sorry :( 



That's just crap. Firstly: If you like a mouse or not depends on your needs and preferences. Second: Just read the reviews of The Logi G5's and G7s. They are at least equal (in terms of performance) to the copperhead.

So much for you sloppy constructive remark about noobs.
March 9, 2006 10:35:17 AM

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I got the Bluetooth MX1000 (Are they all?) with the MX5000 keyboard, and I love it. It was a bit of an adjustment from my MS Explorer, but it's nice, light for a wireless, accurate, and the battery lasts me a fairly long time (I get about a week out of it, and charge it at 1 bar).

My only real complaint about it is that the Setpoint software seems to have a problem. I'll have to reinstall it from the CD and see if that fixes the issue though.


They work by rf @2.4 Ghz. mx900 used bluetooth.
March 9, 2006 11:43:38 AM

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The Razer Copperhead Is the best mouse to date. If you don't know that, its because your a :roll: noob. Sorry :( 



That's just crap. Firstly: If you like a mouse or not depends on your needs and preferences. Second: Just read the reviews of The Logi G5's and G7s. They are at least equal (in terms of performance) to the copperhead.

So much for you sloppy constructive remark about noobs.


hear hear, well said fluff, no place for jack asses like him in these forrums!!!
March 9, 2006 10:39:10 PM

Hey, look, here's a place :arrow:
If you want the fastest car. Buy what ever model that equals the definition of "the fastest car". If you want the most accurate mouse, buy a copperhead. Its that simple. Who cares if you think the interior looks better in the car that took 2nd, metaphorically speaking.
March 9, 2006 10:58:34 PM

yeah but you didnt say that, you said "the best mouse to date", and there are many things that might or indeed might not constitute something being the best


its all in the wording! :twisted:
March 10, 2006 6:39:54 AM

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yeah but you didnt say that, you said "the best mouse to date", and there are many things that might or indeed might not constitute something being the best


its all in the wording! :twisted:


Exactly, it's all personal preference but when somebody calls everyone a noob for not agreeing with them, it's not very polite. Other people's comments where from owning several different kinds of mice, so a wider opinion is always good to see before choosing your mouse.
March 10, 2006 7:25:13 AM

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go with the MX1000 its perfect for games, it doesnt have the fancy dpi options but you dont need them, and b4 anyone says something ive tried other mice and dont like them the bigger size of the MX1000 makes it very comfortable on my hands and lets me play longer. btw im also 6 foot 2.


didnt the reviewers say it delays when you lift it and put it back down?

i got a G7 - woots great mouse

didnt razor also get caught putting in a crud sensor and state its more then what it actually was?
March 10, 2006 11:20:35 AM

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go with the MX1000 its perfect for games, it doesnt have the fancy dpi options but you dont need them, and b4 anyone says something ive tried other mice and dont like them the bigger size of the MX1000 makes it very comfortable on my hands and lets me play longer. btw im also 6 foot 2.


didnt the reviewers say it delays when you lift it and put it back down?

i got a G7 - woots great mouse

didnt razor also get caught putting in a crud sensor and state its more then what it actually was?

i nevver lift my mouse of the desk, infact i have it on quite a sensitive setting surprised if i move my hand anymore than a CM or 2.
March 10, 2006 11:52:00 AM

my mx1000 doesnt seem to delay when i lift it and put it down again, to be honest i never really do that but trying it now it doesnt seem to have any delay
March 10, 2006 9:54:25 PM

hmmm ok, review sample must have been an early one or something

anyhow its not like logitech to make crappy products
March 22, 2006 1:42:46 AM

i would have got the logitech but they are mostly right handed mice, so i got the razer

I've only used it for one night but it seems fine. Not sure what you guys are complaining about. the sensitivity and smoothness playing quake4 was great.
March 26, 2006 12:05:54 PM

The G5 and the Copperhead use the SAME laser sensor so they perform pretty much identically, the only major technical difference (affecting performance) that I can see is the razer can pump its USB rate up to 1000Hz over the G5's 500Hz, though it's debatable what effective difference that makes.

I think it's basically down to personal choice on what shape of mouse you prefer. I only use my fingertips on my current Logitech mouse when gaming, I don't rest my palm on the mouse anyway and I think the symmetrical Razer feels like I could move it a bit more accurately than the G5. Other people find it uncomfortable in extended use and prefer the G5. I don't know why people are getting so worked up, it's really down to how you personally use your mouse.

So far I haven't got one yet though. They're kinda pricey and there have been so many reports of problems. At least with Logitech you always get a quality product. So I'm waiting to see if the prices fall a bit and give them time to fix the problems before I consider getting one.
March 31, 2006 5:30:04 PM

i use the MX1000 mouse as well good mouse like the wight my self (fast post lol)
April 7, 2006 1:31:23 AM

I've ordered the G5 over the G7. Always hated the wireless mouse, plus I don't wanna shell out money for the batteries. Plus, it might interfere with the wireless network setup.
April 7, 2006 2:53:45 AM

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Hey, look, here's a place :arrow:
If you want the fastest car. Buy what ever model that equals the definition of "the fastest car". If you want the most accurate mouse, buy a copperhead. Its that simple. Who cares if you think the interior looks better in the car that took 2nd, metaphorically speaking.


Quite simply put.... you are a jackass. A mouse is very much about personal preference. A great mouse for me might be a crap mouse for someone else on this forum. The best thing to do is to test out the mouse first. I just got a G5 last night and must say it's a great step up from my Intellimouse Explorer V4 mainly because of the teflon feet. The only thing I don't like about it is that you lose one of the thumb buttons but tbh I only had it bound to doing screencaps in games so it's not a huge loss.
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