Which Graphic card for Athnlon XP 2000+

[Zoom77]

Hello,

I have pretty old system (planing to get a new one at the end of the year) with Athlon XP 2000+, 768MB RAM (not DDR) on the ASUS A7V333 Motherboard. The Graphics Card now is the ATI 8500 (plain) with 64MB RAM.

I want to get a new graphics cards to allow me to play games such as DOOM III better. However since the system is old I wouldn't like to spend a lot of money for a graphics that that would be bottle necked by the rest of the system.

Which would be the best (AGP) card for my system?

Thanks

 

[Zoom77]

The rest of the system would not be a bottleneck?

 

[Heyyou27]

If you get somethign like X850XT, or even 7800GT (for example) then yes, your system would bottleneck, but it shouldn't otherwise.

Which would be the best (AGP) card for my system?

 

[MrCommunistGen]

If you get somethign like X850XT, or even 7800GT (for example) then yes, your system would bottleneck, but it shouldn't otherwise.

I disagree. I had a Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB in my XP2200 system (with 512MB DDR) and a friend of mine (still) has a 9700 Pro but is running an Athlon 64 3200+. He beat me in almost every benchmark by a decent bit and gameplay was certainly much smoother with higher detail settings. Performing better with a slower graphics card means that my system was bottlenecked! A 6600gt is faster, and would probably still be faster than the same setup running the (more expensive) 9800 Pro, but it would certainly be held back by the processor, and probably the SDR too.

-mcg

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Don't you understand english? I said for example, I wasnt telling him to buy 7800.

HE's just pointing out, not an option for AGP, even as a suggestion. It's not english that's the issue, the interface is the problem. Perhaps that was the case with your post too and you meant to type 6800GT instead of 7800GT, but the keyboard erred.

DAMN Interfaces! :tongue:

Funny none the less. :mrgreen:

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

The rest of the system would not be a bottleneck?

Of course in some situations, however in others it means you can turn up the resolution or AA/AF and still benifiit. Why pass up a good deal, when even when system limited you can turn up the AA or additional features a bit, which will give you the most despite your limits in other areas.

 

[parlee]

id recommend a 9600 or a 9700... but since the 6600gt is not much more than those gpu's if you have the money to spend go for a 6600gt... or even a 6600...anything more is a waste of money, the most you should spend on a card is 150... even then the cpu is still bottlenecking the system

 

[pauldh]

That motherboard is a KT333, so it is DDR that you have. Most likely it's PC2100 (DDR266). I have a similar setup and a decent $100-$150 card can make a huge difference.

For sure in some games you will be cpu limited meaning detail levels will not be able to be cranked up all the way reguardless of the video card. (NFSu2 and NFSMW for example). But, a good used or new 9700 pro, 9800 pro, or 6600GT would be nice for that system, and like Grape said, you will be able to enable higher resoluion and FSAA making for a better looking game even if all the settings can't be maxed out. 1024x768 4XAA/16XAF and medium details would look far better than 800x600 no AA, no AF and medium details.

 

[hella-d]

If Only You Had Dual-Channel DDR, You Coul Simply Upgrade The CPU To A 2800+/333FSB w/512KB L2 And With That Better Video Card It Would Prolly Help

 

[parlee]

that wouldnt make a huge diff, my friend has that proc with 2gb ddr400 and a 6800gt, he runs hl2 at high with 0AA and AF and gets 50fps constant with spikes higher and lower.. whereas i have an x700pro (worse carD) and an amd3700 and get 100 in the same situations

 

[pauldh]

The best he could put in there is a 266 bus 2600+ (very rare) or a 2400+. Probably not worth it seeing the prices of AXP's lately. Maybe he should look into an overclock.

Mine is actually an unlocked XP1700+ that is running as an XP2000+(just multiplier overclocked, nothing extreme) at stock voltage with PC2100. It's my sons system, and even though it's a KT400, I doubt I'll be upgrading his CPU any time soon. Upgrading from a Ti4200 to a 9700 pro (refurb, which died) and now a 9800 pro, made a big difference in a few of our games.

 

[parlee]

so basically ur saying a 9800pro is prob the best choice?... im not sure but i doubt ull see much of a difference with a 6600gt... but i could be wrong, the 9800pro is only about 50 less than a 6600gt, so if ud like to spend 150 on a card get th 6600gt, if ud like to spend 100, get the 9800pro, less than 75, look for a 9700 if not go for a 9600...

 

[GeneticWeapon]

If Only You Had Dual-Channel DDR, You Coul Simply Upgrade The CPU To A 2800+/333FSB w/512KB L2 And With That Better Video Card It Would Prolly Help

Stop typing like that or we will all kill you......

 

[pauldh]

I actually wanted a 6600GT. Would it have been much better than a 9800 pro in that sytem? Not sure, but I would have tested it out to see. I Got an amazing deal(so I thought) on the refurb 9700 pro from Crucial. It died after 4 days, and I ended up getting a AIW X800XT and moved the 9800 pro from that system into his. Based on current new prices, I would not have bought a 9800 pro; 6600GT can be found for about the same.

I think they are all good choices, I just would put the 6600GT as the upper limit price/bottleneck wise. Seeing as down the road he'd want a PCI-e card in his next system, and the XP2000+ will be a bottleneck in many games, I don't see a need to spend over $100-140. If he could get a good used 9700 pro for $70, that would be good too.

 

[parlee]

nothing more to say but Agreed.

 

[hella-d]

Sorry Thats My Style Of Typing... It Defines Me

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Sorry Thats My Style Of Typing... It Defines Me

It makes you look like a tard

 

[hella-d]

Oh Well

 

[parlee]

lolz, what would make u want to type like that? what a hassle.

 

[hella-d]

Im Not Relly Sure... I Just Do. But It Dosent Slow Me Down Any, I Can Still Type 50wpm With Three Finers (Witch Is What And All I Alwayse Use)

 

[parlee]

50 wpm is kinda slow ... duno how many i can do but im sure its more than that... consider this post will prob end up being around 50 and took like 30 seconds to write..

 

[hella-d]

LOL, Its Fast Enuff

 

[linux_0]

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1841212

for about $400 you could upgrade to an Athlon 64 with a 6600GT

 

[hella-d]

Exactly

 

[GeneticWeapon]

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/WishShareShow.asp?ID=1841212

for about $400 you could upgrade to an Athlon 64 with a 6600GT

I would rather contract V.D. than buy a Jaton motherboard or graphics card.

...in fact, I would buy ECS before I'd buy Jaton :roll: