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August 20, 2004 5:10:15 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Information about most KB searches are usually vague, if
you really want to understand a security patches actual
issue, get a shovel! After following several links, you
may find out. For example, I recently (i'm assuming that
there have been thousands of you tried same search) queried
KB [s/b dumb db] for the XP Pro Sp2 release date. Not to
get it yet, but to schedule myself time to review the
service packs fixes, paying attention to the compabitibilty
issues primarily. We're using legacy apps., intranet
clients w/ internet access are few enough to enable auto
updates, for our db on server. Short story long, I never
was able to find this info on
Microsoft.com/windows/xp/pro/sp2--Tree or within links
where any logical person would have posted this info. OR,
is that the problem itself, LOGIC?? I danderously 'assume'
that the shady game is a result of a lack in confidence on
behlf of MS. As you likely know, this XPsp2 release was
constantly pushed back. Again, lacking confidence seems
aparent. My opinion of the XPsp2 fixes, "this should be
called XP Pro sp0 (initial release of OS)!
Anonymous
August 20, 2004 6:59:20 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

vino wrote:
> Information about most KB searches are usually vague, if
> you really want to understand a security patches actual
> issue, get a shovel! After following several links, you
> may find out. For example, I recently (i'm assuming that
> there have been thousands of you tried same search) queried
> KB [s/b dumb db] for the XP Pro Sp2 release date. Not to
> get it yet, but to schedule myself time to review the
> service packs fixes, paying attention to the compabitibilty
> issues primarily. We're using legacy apps., intranet
> clients w/ internet access are few enough to enable auto
> updates, for our db on server. Short story long, I never
> was able to find this info on
> Microsoft.com/windows/xp/pro/sp2--Tree or within links
> where any logical person would have posted this info. OR,
> is that the problem itself, LOGIC?? I danderously 'assume'
> that the shady game is a result of a lack in confidence on
> behlf of MS. As you likely know, this XPsp2 release was
> constantly pushed back. Again, lacking confidence seems
> aparent. My opinion of the XPsp2 fixes, "this should be
> called XP Pro sp0 (initial release of OS)!

Here are a couple of articles that will teach you how to have a better
experience with both security updates and searching the MSKB.

Description of the format of Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for Microsoft
Security Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=824689


How to query the Microsoft Knowledge Base by using keywords and query words:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspxscid=http://su...


--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Anonymous
August 21, 2004 2:21:05 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

"vino" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:a1e101c486f1$b527c7e0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Information about most KB searches are usually vague, if
> you really want to understand a security patches actual
> issue, get a shovel! After following several links, you
> may find out. For example, I recently (i'm assuming that
> there have been thousands of you tried same search) queried
> KB [s/b dumb db] for the XP Pro Sp2 release date. Not to
> get it yet, but to schedule myself time to review the
> service packs fixes, paying attention to the compabitibilty
> issues primarily. We're using legacy apps., intranet
> clients w/ internet access are few enough to enable auto
> updates, for our db on server. Short story long, I never
> was able to find this info on

This is because
1. the release date for a product is not a Knowledgebase issue
2 we did not any public statements about the release date as it was quality
driven and was shipped when it was ready so the public information on the
release date was given at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks...
This would have been given as a answer if you had searched the entire
Microsoft site and not just the KB.,


> Microsoft.com/windows/xp/pro/sp2--Tree or within links
> where any logical person would have posted this info. OR,
> is that the problem itself, LOGIC?? I danderously 'assume'
> that the shady game is a result of a lack in confidence on
> behlf of MS. As you likely know, this XPsp2 release was
> constantly pushed back. Again, lacking confidence seems
> aparent. My opinion of the XPsp2 fixes, "this should be
> called XP Pro sp0 (initial release of OS)!

The page for the pre-release information on SP2 was easily accessible and
contained a wealth of information. This has now been replaced with another
page for information for IT Professionals which provides information that
would be relevant to your questions about preparation for SP2 (this
information was also on the Preview Release pages).
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/m...
As you should be aware - the release of SP2 was a quality driven release so
that any "push back" (from a date that was never announced) was to ensure
the highest possible quality bar was met for this important release.
There was no "lack of confidence" but a desire to do the best job we could
and produce the best release for you the end user.

--

Regards,

Mike
--
Mike Brannigan [Microsoft]

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"vino" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:a1e101c486f1$b527c7e0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Information about most KB searches are usually vague, if
> you really want to understand a security patches actual
> issue, get a shovel! After following several links, you
> may find out. For example, I recently (i'm assuming that
> there have been thousands of you tried same search) queried
> KB [s/b dumb db] for the XP Pro Sp2 release date. Not to
> get it yet, but to schedule myself time to review the
> service packs fixes, paying attention to the compabitibilty
> issues primarily. We're using legacy apps., intranet
> clients w/ internet access are few enough to enable auto
> updates, for our db on server. Short story long, I never
> was able to find this info on
> Microsoft.com/windows/xp/pro/sp2--Tree or within links
> where any logical person would have posted this info. OR,
> is that the problem itself, LOGIC?? I danderously 'assume'
> that the shady game is a result of a lack in confidence on
> behlf of MS. As you likely know, this XPsp2 release was
> constantly pushed back. Again, lacking confidence seems
> aparent. My opinion of the XPsp2 fixes, "this should be
> called XP Pro sp0 (initial release of OS)!
!