Opinions on XP SP2

[kline]

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hi

What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number of
security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates I
wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9 and
already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?

And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list I
can't see why it would be that size?

regards

Kline

 

[Guest]

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SP2 is considered a "Critical Update" and updates over
5 million lines of code in Windows XP. You'll experience
stronger security and a bit more performance by installing SP2.
If you are relying on some negative information about SP2
found in newsgroups, remember that only folks with issues
tend to post and many issues are not even related to SP2.
Additionally, future critical updates will require that SP2 be
installed as a prerequisite.

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2

Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"kline" wrote:

| hi
|
| What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
| Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number of
| security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates I
| wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9 and
| already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?
|
| And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list I
| can't see why it would be that size?
|
| regards
|
| Kline

 

[Guest]

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Sp2 must be installed as a requisite to a requisite (a prerequisite) ?

That's like saying preloaded. It's either loaded or it isn't! You can't load
it before it's loaded, which would equal a preload!

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O2u7BtvhEHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> SP2 is considered a "Critical Update" and updates over
> 5 million lines of code in Windows XP. You'll experience
> stronger security and a bit more performance by installing SP2.
> If you are relying on some negative information about SP2
> found in newsgroups, remember that only folks with issues
> tend to post and many issues are not even related to SP2.
> Additionally, future critical updates will require that SP2 be
> installed as a prerequisite.
>
> List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2
>
> Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "kline" wrote:
>
> | hi
> |
> | What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
> | Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number
> of
> | security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates
> I
> | wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9 and
> | already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?
> |
> | And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list I
> | can't see why it would be that size?
> |
> | regards
> |
> | Kline
>

 

[Tom]

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Well, if you'd read correctly, that isn't what the basis is behind that term. Carey stated nothing about SP2 being "prerequisite", only the "prerequisite" for future fixes after the fact if it is installed. All you did was take out of context words to mean what you want it to mean!


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OgbTL$vhEHA.1344@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Sp2 must be installed as a requisite to a requisite (a prerequisite) ?
>
> That's like saying preloaded. It's either loaded or it isn't! You can't load
> it before it's loaded, which would equal a preload!
>
> --
> Regards:
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:O2u7BtvhEHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> SP2 is considered a "Critical Update" and updates over
>> 5 million lines of code in Windows XP. You'll experience
>> stronger security and a bit more performance by installing SP2.
>> If you are relying on some negative information about SP2
>> found in newsgroups, remember that only folks with issues
>> tend to post and many issues are not even related to SP2.
>> Additionally, future critical updates will require that SP2 be
>> installed as a prerequisite.
>>
>> List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2
>>
>> Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "kline" wrote:
>>
>> | hi
>> |
>> | What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
>> | Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number
>> of
>> | security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates
>> I
>> | wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9 and
>> | already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?
>> |
>> | And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list I
>> | can't see why it would be that size?
>> |
>> | regards
>> |
>> | Kline
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

English a second language?

future (not now later) critical updates will require
(need) that SP2 be installed (reside on your computer) as
a prerequisite. (beforehand)

pre·req·ui·site

adj.
Required or necessary as a prior condition: Competence is
prerequisite to promotion. (apparently not to posting in
Newsgroups however)

n.
Something that is prerequisite, as a course that is
required prior to taking an advanced course.

Perhaps they can bring you a nice English dictionary at
the home.



>-----Original Message-----
>Sp2 must be installed as a requisite to a requisite (a
prerequisite) ?
>
>That's like saying preloaded. It's either loaded or it
isn't! You can't load
>it before it's loaded, which would equal a preload!
>
>--
>Regards:
>
>Richard Urban
>
>aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard
>
>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in
message
>news:O2u7BtvhEHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> SP2 is considered a "Critical Update" and updates over
>> 5 million lines of code in Windows XP. You'll
experience
>> stronger security and a bit more performance by
installing SP2.
>> If you are relying on some negative information about
SP2
>> found in newsgroups, remember that only folks with
issues
>> tend to post and many issues are not even related to
SP2.
>> Additionally, future critical updates will require
that SP2 be
>> installed as a prerequisite.
>>
>> List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2
>>
>> Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.a
spx
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
>>
>> "kline" wrote:
>>
>> | hi
>> |
>> | What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not
wanting to use the XP
>> | Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS,
but given the number
>> of
>> | security flaws that have been exploited in previous
MS products/updates
>> I
>> | wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use
Windows Media Player 9 and
>> | already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in
installing it?
>> |
>> | And does anyone know why it's such a huge file -
from the feature list I
>> | can't see why it would be that size?
>> |
>> | regards
>> |
>> | Kline
>>
>
>
>.
>

 

[Guest]

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A pre-requisite to having future updates installed is owning a computer.
Having SP2 installed is a "requisite"!

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:ujeDNOwhEHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Well, if you'd read correctly, that isn't what the basis is behind that
term. Carey stated nothing about SP2 being "prerequisite", only the
"prerequisite" for future fixes after the fact if it is installed. All you
did was take out of context words to mean what you want it to mean!


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OgbTL$vhEHA.1344@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Sp2 must be installed as a requisite to a requisite (a prerequisite) ?
>
> That's like saying preloaded. It's either loaded or it isn't! You can't
> load
> it before it's loaded, which would equal a preload!
>
> --
> Regards:
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:O2u7BtvhEHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> SP2 is considered a "Critical Update" and updates over
>> 5 million lines of code in Windows XP. You'll experience
>> stronger security and a bit more performance by installing SP2.
>> If you are relying on some negative information about SP2
>> found in newsgroups, remember that only folks with issues
>> tend to post and many issues are not even related to SP2.
>> Additionally, future critical updates will require that SP2 be
>> installed as a prerequisite.
>>
>> List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2
>>
>> Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "kline" wrote:
>>
>> | hi
>> |
>> | What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
>> | Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number
>> of
>> | security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates
>> I
>> | wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9
>> and
>> | already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?
>> |
>> | And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list
>> I
>> | can't see why it would be that size?
>> |
>> | regards
>> |
>> | Kline
>>
>
>

 

[Tom]

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Oh Dear!

I suggest taking an English remedial course, because you are totally wrong; just look up the definition and the usage of the word.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eYQ7BWwhEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>A pre-requisite to having future updates installed is owning a computer.
> Having SP2 installed is a "requisite"!
>
> --
> Regards:
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard
>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:ujeDNOwhEHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Well, if you'd read correctly, that isn't what the basis is behind that
> term. Carey stated nothing about SP2 being "prerequisite", only the
> "prerequisite" for future fixes after the fact if it is installed. All you
> did was take out of context words to mean what you want it to mean!
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OgbTL$vhEHA.1344@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Sp2 must be installed as a requisite to a requisite (a prerequisite) ?
>>
>> That's like saying preloaded. It's either loaded or it isn't! You can't
>> load
>> it before it's loaded, which would equal a preload!
>>
>> --
>> Regards:
>>
>> Richard Urban
>>
>> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:O2u7BtvhEHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> SP2 is considered a "Critical Update" and updates over
>>> 5 million lines of code in Windows XP. You'll experience
>>> stronger security and a bit more performance by installing SP2.
>>> If you are relying on some negative information about SP2
>>> found in newsgroups, remember that only folks with issues
>>> tend to post and many issues are not even related to SP2.
>>> Additionally, future critical updates will require that SP2 be
>>> installed as a prerequisite.
>>>
>>> List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2
>>>
>>> Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carey Frisch
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>>
>>> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "kline" wrote:
>>>
>>> | hi
>>> |
>>> | What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
>>> | Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number
>>> of
>>> | security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates
>>> I
>>> | wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9
>>> and
>>> | already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?
>>> |
>>> | And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list
>>> I
>>> | can't see why it would be that size?
>>> |
>>> | regards
>>> |
>>> | Kline
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:14:34 GMT, kline wrote:

> hi
>
> What are peoples opinions on SP2? If you're not wanting to use the XP
> Firewall (no offence to any here who work for MS, but given the number of
> security flaws that have been exploited in previous MS products/updates I
> wouldn't feel comfortable using it) don't use Windows Media Player 9 and
> already have a pop-up blocker is there much point in installing it?
>
> And does anyone know why it's such a huge file - from the feature list I
> can't see why it would be that size?
>
> regards
>
> Kline

Installed SP2 here over a week ago and have had no major problems. I do not
use the Windows firewall. Instead, I use Kerio 2.1.5 which I have used for
several years.
--
Michael B

 

[Guest]

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I installed SP2 on two computers Thurs. and do not have any problems at all.
I, too, agree with the earlier post which states that folks with problems
tend to post more than those of us fortunate enough to have no problems.
After reading some of these horror stories, I was hesitant to upgrade. Now
I am very glad I did so.

 

[Guest]

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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> ...
> Additionally, future critical updates will require that SP2 be
> installed. ...
>

Is there a Microsoft website that says that?

 

[tonys]

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Warren wrote:
: I installed SP2 on two computers Thurs. and do not have any problems
: at all. I, too, agree with the earlier post which states that folks
: with problems tend to post more than those of us fortunate enough to
: have no problems. After reading some of these horror stories, I was
: hesitant to upgrade. Now I am very glad I did so.
The change to windows messenger was the only thing to really bother me.
So far all is well.
TonyS

 

[Guest]

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I really enjoyed this post...requisite, prerequisite...all funny. Now, as
far as the original question...I put this on 2 computers and haven't had any
problems at all and I think that things may have even speeded up a bit. It's
unfortunate that even as we speak idiots/hackers are trying to thwart any
opening that MS left the tiny bit vulnerable. I would love to see these
people/a-holes put away for a very long time, versus the little slap on the
wrist that they mete out now. How do you think these dweebs would fare in a
real prison environment? Not too well. We wouldn't need to have these
continious 'critical updates' if they would just stay in their little Linux
world and leave the 'evil MS empire' alone.

My 2 cents

"TonyS" wrote:

> Warren wrote:
> : I installed SP2 on two computers Thurs. and do not have any problems
> : at all. I, too, agree with the earlier post which states that folks
> : with problems tend to post more than those of us fortunate enough to
> : have no problems. After reading some of these horror stories, I was
> : hesitant to upgrade. Now I am very glad I did so.
> The change to windows messenger was the only thing to really bother me.
> So far all is well.
> TonyS
>
>
>