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Since the coolermaster forums, how shall I put this, suck for any kind of support I thought I would ask here.

I recently installed an aquagate into my PC. Very happy with it. But the Coolermaster coolant is a pain to get in Australia. But, apart from voiding warranty, is there really any reason why I couldnt just use straight tap water? Or car coolant?

Only issue I can think of for water is that it may eventually cause corrosion. But car radiator coolant doesnt so I cant really see a difference between them.

Thanks.

P.S. here is the actual aquagate:
http://www.coolermaster.com/index. [...] 1+AQUAGATE

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Distilled water plus a corrosive additive.
I prefer non-conductive coolants, in case of a leak.
How often do you have to fill it?

Reply to RichPLS

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Distilled water plus a corrosive additive.
I prefer non-conductive coolants, in case of a leak.
How often do you have to fill it?




You meant anti-corrosive ritght?

Reply to Anonymous
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1. Distilled water (100% - no additives)
Strengths:

* Excellent thermal properties
Weaknesses:

* No corrosion inhibition
* Various microorganisms may flourish

2. Distilled water and super coolant additive of your choice*
Strengths:

* Good/Excellent thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of
additive)
Weaknesses:

* May not provide any protection against microorganism growth

3. Distilled water, super coolant*, and biocide of your choice
Strengths:

* Good/Excellent thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of additive)
* Good protection against microorganism growth (depending on the additive)
Weaknesses:

* Added complexity and cost

4. Distilled water, 15% automotive antifreeze, super coolant*, and biocide of your choice
Strengths:

* Fair/Good thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of additive)
* Good protection against microorganism growth (depending on the additive)
* Sense of security - some people just feel better using this mix
Weaknesses:

* Added complexity and cost
* Higher viscosity - potentially lower flow rate
* Toxic to pets and humans

5. Distilled water, 30% Methanol, super coolant of your choice*
Strengths:

* Good thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of additive
* Good protection against microorganism growth
* Offers freeze protection down to -30ºC
Weaknesses:

* Added complexity and cost
* Toxic to pets and humans
* Flammable .

Just so you know :wink:

Reply to link75

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Been using water with Water Wetter(performance car coolant) for the past years with no corrosion/bio problems.



Thanks all. I am curious how long between top ups for you? I have only just installed it and have never had to refill yet.

Reply to solomanii
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Give link75 a :trophy:

:D

Very interesting stuff, thanks!

IIRC Some Crays were liquid cooled too ;-)

Semper Fi Linux on

Reply to linux_0
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Quote :

Been using water with Water Wetter(performance car coolant) for the past years with no corrosion/bio problems.



Thanks all. I am curious how long between top ups for you? I have only just installed it and have never had to refill yet.

Same situation here, I'd like to know too.
I suspect at least a year if no leaks, since it is a closed system.

Reply to RichPLS
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it depends on the type of cooling apparatus type of coolant you are using.
n a closed loop system, maintenance is minor. Maybe once a month make sure the water level is OK (should be no evaporation) and that's about it. Good pumps are designed for continuous running, are guaranteed for two years and require no maintenance.
Readymade coolants in closed systems last slightly longer than homemade ones.some ready made coolants are recommended to be changed every 6 months but generally there is no hard and fast rule.
Change should be undertaken if it becomes cloudy, fungal growth or cooling temps become unsatisfactory.

Note- almost all water setups have 2 seperate types of metals (usually copper in the heatspeader and aluminium in the radiator) this will essentially crate a kind of electrolytic cell and slowly ionise the water increasing its conductivity and(making it more dangerous if it spills) and also final reduction of its thermal properties.

Some simple facts- http://fredrik.hubbe.net/silence/w [...] nance.html

Reply to link75



You sir, have been very helpful. Thanks!

Reply to solomanii
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You sir, have been very helpful. Thanks!



You are welcome ,enjoy your cooling adventures :wink:

Reply to link75
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I once was told that some kinds of ethanols corroded metacrilate plastic.
Someone know anything??

BTW, I use 100% car coolant and does better than 50/50 water/coolant... 8O

Reply to Snale

Out of interest... what other components can be water cooled? and any recomendation on hardware to do it similiar to aquagate?

Thanks.

Reply to solomanii

well cars are liquid cooled lol but as far as electronics being liquid cooled i have heard of people liquid cooling home theater systems, xboxes,ps2s, xbox 360s, and of course pcs.

Reply to adamryer

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well cars are liquid cooled lol but as far as electronics being liquid cooled i have heard of people liquid cooling home theater systems, xboxes,ps2s, xbox 360s, and of course pcs.



Was more interested in finding out more info on liquid cooling components like hard-drives, graphic cards etc.

Reply to solomanii

6 months on I have to say I am very happy with the Aquagate and no refills needed so far.

I am interested in water cooling my nvidia 7800 now. Any recomendations from anyone on this?

Thanks.

Reply to solomanii
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i would go with coolant combo number 3 or 2.

for gfx card cooling, look at thermaltake.

Reply to pengwin

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i would go with coolant combo number 3 or 2.

for gfx card cooling, look at thermaltake.



2 and 3?

Will check thermal out. Thanks.

Reply to solomanii
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Quote :

1. Distilled water (100% - no additives)
Strengths:

* Excellent thermal properties
Weaknesses:

* No corrosion inhibition
* Various microorganisms may flourish

2. Distilled water and super coolant additive of your choice*
Strengths:

* Good/Excellent thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of
additive)
Weaknesses:

* May not provide any protection against microorganism growth

3. Distilled water, super coolant*, and biocide of your choice
Strengths:

* Good/Excellent thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of additive)
* Good protection against microorganism growth (depending on the additive)
Weaknesses:

* Added complexity and cost

4. Distilled water, 15% automotive antifreeze, super coolant*, and biocide of your choice
Strengths:

* Fair/Good thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of additive)
* Good protection against microorganism growth (depending on the additive)
* Sense of security - some people just feel better using this mix
Weaknesses:

* Added complexity and cost
* Higher viscosity - potentially lower flow rate
* Toxic to pets and humans

5. Distilled water, 30% Methanol, super coolant of your choice*
Strengths:

* Good thermal properties
* Good corrosion resistance (depending on the effectiveness of additive
* Good protection against microorganism growth
* Offers freeze protection down to -30ºC
Weaknesses:

* Added complexity and cost
* Toxic to pets and humans
* Flammable .

Just so you know :wink:



2 or 3 from that list. :)

Reply to pengwin

You can use coolant made especially for pc cooling like Fluid XP+ or PrimoChill ICE. You might be able to find some in your place. I doubt there's no pc coolant you buy online. That or pee on it.

Reply to chuckshissle
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You can use coolant made especially for pc cooling like Fluid XP+ or PrimoChill ICE. You might be able to find some in your place. I doubt there's no pc coolant you buy online. That or pee on it.



Pee would be warm :

Reply to pengwin

I have been using the green car coolent in my ZALMAN RESERATOR 1 for over a year now. I have not had a problem yet with corrosion or microorganisms yet. I used the 50/50 mix so that I would not have to worry about the water.

Has any one else out there done this with no problems?

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