don't laugh, looking for Athlon XP 3400 Barton...

[V8VENOM]

I've done the standard google search and nobody seems to actually have this mysterious CPU (for a Socket A motherboard). Does this CPU actually exist? If so, does anyone know where I can buy one?

My reason - I have a Socket A PC (running AMD Athlon XP 2200) that has a lot of software on it that has complicated license issues (i.e. complete re-install of OS on a new CPU/motherboard is not an option) associated with it, so I want to make it as fast as I can in the existing Socket A motherboard I have.

Unless someone knows how to change CPU/motherboard without having to reinstall my OS along with all my licensed software?? I've tried this before and rarely has WinXP been able to deal with a CPU/motherboard change and has almost always resulted in a complete wipe & reinstall of XP. But if you know of a way please inform me.

Thanks, Rob.

 

[phonicsmonkey]

I've never heard of that. I thought the last one made was an XP 3200.

 

[V8VENOM]

http://www.amdboard.com/barton3400.html

I guess it never materialized?

 

[bourgeoisdude]

I've done the standard google search and nobody seems to actually have this mysterious CPU (for a Socket A motherboard). Does this CPU actually exist? If so, does anyone know where I can buy one?

My reason - I have a Socket A PC (running AMD Athlon XP 2200) that has a lot of software on it that has complicated license issues (i.e. complete re-install of OS on a new CPU/motherboard is not an option) associated with it, so I want to make it as fast as I can in the existing Socket A motherboard I have.

Unless someone knows how to change CPU/motherboard without having to reinstall my OS along with all my licensed software?? I've tried this before and rarely has WinXP been able to deal with a CPU/motherboard change and has almost always resulted in a complete wipe & reinstall of XP. But if you know of a way please inform me.

Thanks, Rob.

If you currently have a 2200+ then you likely only have a 266MHz FSB, correct? If so, sadley the max. cpu you can use would be the 266FSB version of the Athlon XP 2800+. The 3000+ and 3200+ feature only 333MHz FSB and 400MHz FSB versions. No 266MHz FSB processors are available beyond the 2800+, and they are quite rare (most 2800+ feature the 333MHz FSB--I'd recommend just getting the 266FSB Athlon XP 2600+ as it is much cheaper and only negligable difference from the 2800+). Sorry man.

 

[V8VENOM]

The motherboard supports FSB 266/333/400 (it is a DFI LanParty UltraII) and the BIOS has been updated to support Barton's.

But I think you're right as far as the 3400 being rare, I've found 3200 barton's for $150 or so, but the 3400 barton either never really existed (just someone selling a 3200 as overclocked) or it was a very limited production run from AMD.

Wonder how overclockable the 3200 is and how well my motherboard can handle overclocking...

 

[slvr_phoenix]

If you're going to overclock then why bother getting a 3200? Get something with a lower FSB and overclock it to 200FSB.

 

[V8VENOM]

How well do the Barton's overclock vs. the Standard XPs in a watercooled setup?

 

[slvr_phoenix]

I thought that the Bartons were meant to be very good overclockers. I seem to remember they were rather the holy grail, along with the T-Bred Bs.

 

[utaka95]

Get a 2600 mobile - you can run it at whatever fsb you want. I've got one on an NF7-s running at 200 fsb x 10 (2 gig) and it has gone as high as 230 on the fsb.

 

[Tattysnuc]

My limited experience with 3200 Bartons were that they ran VERY hot.

I know that the mobile cpu's were the same core as the Barton, and so if you get a 2500M or 2600M you were effectively buying a 3200 barton underclocked, but running on a lower voltage. I'm told that the same is true in reverse - mobiles overclock wonderfully to Barton speeds, but I dont know how much faster you will go than the 3200XP. ....

 

[krazyIvan]

Just over a year ago I bought an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ Barton 333MHz FSB Socket A Processor Model AXDL2600DLV4D that is UNLOCKED! It’s a rare "Low Power Desktop" model that was unlocked up and down and only needs 1.4v and unlike the mobiles it has a 333 fsb. I had the thing running at 2300mhz, that’s 100mhz over the 3200+ with a Vcore of only 1.6v. I had it up to 2400mhz @ 1.7 but my good (but not great) aftermarket heatsink was at its limit. If you can find one, it’s a great deal, especially if you have a MB that can run a 200mhz fsb with DDR400 ram. My fsb topped out at 180mhz with DDR333

 

[woodchuk]

I agree, the fastest mobile you can find is the way to go. With your MB and
some lo latency PC3700 you should be able to get at least 2.4 on air.
AN7 v.2/XP2500 Barton (not mobile)@2.2
The only thing that keeps me from going faster is CPU temps, now in the hi 40's under load. Cooler than Pentium, hotter than the thin core CPU's.
I'm suspicious of some of the Barton PC3200's listed on eBay or I would upgrade.

 

[woodchuk]

The highest Barton can go on stock voltage on air is 2.3Ghz and that's pushing it.

3200+ was the end of line, no further can e pushed.
Or you could buy a unlocked 2500+ Barton off me that can do 2.5Ghz.
Price negotiable. :twisted:

I agree, with stock voltages, pushing over 2.7 sends temps skyhigh. What would you like to trade for your 2500?

 

[DavidB]

I've had my 3200+ up to 2440ish. The Temp was hitting 63C though on the stock cooler. It was running stable though when I was maxing out the cpu running recode 2. Sadly I noticed that my temperatures at stock were at 55C with no load, so I'm waiting on my new cooler before seeing how far it can really go.

 

[woodchuk]

Don't have one of those, my friend has the 754 but won't part with it. I know what you mean, I have yet to sell an old CPU. In fact the XP2000 benches now exactly as it did 5 years ago and still runs in the hi 50's quite well.
I just saw one for sale new for $125, fifty more than I paid then. Sure wish I had bought the unlocked 266FSB mobile when it was still common.

 

[scoyle]

I had an Athlon XP 2600+ 333Mhz Barton, which overclocked decently on air. I attained 2.2 Ghz @ 400Mhz FSB, but I don't remember if I ever bothered to get it entirely stable (as it ran hot +/- 60C). The chip was unlocked, although multipliers over 12.5 wouldn't work. With a good water-cooling setup, I think I could have gotten 2.5Ghz out of that particular chip.

As always, your results may vary.

 

[ShortyNumber45]

you're talkin' about SCI-FI CPU.

 

[K8MAN]

The highest Barton can go on stock voltage on air is 2.3Ghz and that's pushing it. 3200+ was the end of line, no further can e pushed.

You'll be best off getting a XP-M 2400+/2600+ and overclock without any multiplier restriction unlike the normal Barton you buy now which are superlocked.

Or you could buy a unlocked 2500+ Barton off me that can do 2.5Ghz.
Price negotiable. :twisted:

AMD did release a 2.33ghz 3200+ 333FSB version for compaq so that was the highest binned chip ever

 

[endyen]

I've had a 100% success rate changing mobos that are by the same company, and with chipsets from the same maker, though I've only tried on XP pro, so I cant say about home. I also would not suggest going agp to pci-express.
If it's just that you "lost" your cd key, you can recover it by getting a copy of magic jellybean, then use a copy of xp to do a repair install.

 

[baracuda73]

if you use a tool called sysprep which is on the xp pro disk for sure you can wipe system info out to allow you to change mobo and cpu without the need to reload windows.

 

[liquidpaper007]

I've had a 100% success rate changing mobos that are by the same company, and with chipsets from the same maker, though I've only tried on XP pro, so I cant say about home. I also would not suggest going agp to pci-express.
If it's just that you "lost" your cd key, you can recover it by getting a copy of magic jellybean, then use a copy of xp to do a repair install.

I have been successful also. customers bring in e machines with dead mobo's all the time. so i just get an atx mobo pop it in then repair.

 

[INeedCache]

I would recommend liquidpaper007 and baracuda73's suggestion of simply putting whatever new board and processor you want, then boot to your XP installation disc and do a repair. Has always worked for us.

 

[noko]

My Barton XP2500+ would go up to 2.4ghz. I recommend the mobile Barton since they are not locked. My Barton wasn't a mobile but it wasn't locked either, older version.

 

[CallumN]

I did pretty much the same thing, went from an Athlon 1800+ to a 3200+ 400FSB, and stuck with a VIA chipset as i had heard that stay with the same chipset make and it will be fine.

Well it was, XP Home took fine to it, and the speed scared me. Will clock it on thursday when i get paid, some nice OCZ RAM.

 

[The_Krayze]

I have the same situation, per say. i have an XP 2900+ i bought as a combo deal. The 3400 might have been sold to a manufaturer, like HP/Compaq, Gateway etc.. The old all right to another company. In the end, It may exist, but be vary hard to get. My 2900 is actually an over glorified 2800. My 2900 should have a barton core, (I have CPU-Z, but have not ran it yet.) The 2800, I read, runs at 2.08 and my 2900 runs at 2Ghz, but my multipliers is 10 n@ 200, where the 2800 might be 10.5 @ 133. My CPU runs great, so keep looking for yours.