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Anonymous
April 20, 2004 11:51:05 PM

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the pc I have is running windows 95 I do not have the windows 95 disc the pc is an old one that was given to me ,my children are currentley using it to play games on.I do have a startup disc win 95 (a) and win 95 (b) (as Im not sure which version is running on the pc) that I downloaded from boot disc.com The first of the problems is when pc is turned on and begins to boot i get a message "conflicts I/O port :2f8.....press F1 to continue" the next issue is after the message windows 95 is starting then 3 other messages display"cannot find a device file that may or may not be needed to run windows or windows applications...............The windows registry or system.ini file refers to this device file ,but the device file no longer exists................if you deleted this file on purpose try re uninstalling the associated application using its uninstall or setup program................If you still want to use the application with this device file ,try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file" then the file names after each one are nwlink.vxd , nwredir.vxd and nscl.vxd "press any key to continue" Then after the windows 95 flash screen and the desktop begins loading another message box for windows networking says"unable to load the dynamic link library.....nwnp32.dll.........the system cannot find the file specified......some or all of the following feature is not available.................Netware. what i need to know is what steps and in what orded to i need to do to fix this .i would like to set the pc up to access the internet but now cant. I have also considered reformatting the hard drive and installing WIN 98 or ME scince I have the program discs for each.So Im not sure if I should even continue to fix this or to go ahead and do that.

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Anonymous
April 21, 2004 5:05:17 PM

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The first message refers to the hardware configuration. For instance, you
have a serial port on the motherboard and another port on a plug-in card, or
you have installed another device that has taken the address of one of the
serial ports. You need to disable or remove one of the devices, or
reconfigure it to use a different address.
http://www.techadvice.com/tech/C/ComPort_TS.htm

The three files you mention are associated with networking. You can
uninstall any network components, or you can hunt for references to these
files (for instance in the registry or in the file SYSTEM.INI) and remove
them.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"BR&Y" <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:A0E64C98-AA41-42DB-9143-73E096D3831F@microsoft.com...
> the pc I have is running windows 95 I do not have the windows 95 disc the
pc is an old one that was given to me ,my children are currentley using it
to play games on.I do have a startup disc win 95 (a) and win 95 (b) (as Im
not sure which version is running on the pc) that I downloaded from boot
disc.com The first of the problems is when pc is turned on and begins to
boot i get a message "conflicts I/O port :2f8.....press F1 to continue" the
next issue is after the message windows 95 is starting then 3 other messages
display"cannot find a device file that may or may not be needed to run
windows or windows applications...............The windows registry or
system.ini file refers to this device file ,but the device file no longer
exists................if you deleted this file on purpose try re
uninstalling the associated application using its uninstall or setup
program................If you still want to use the application with this
device file ,try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file"
then the file names after each one are nwlink.vxd , nwredir.vxd and nscl.vxd
"press any key to continue" Then after the windows 95 flash screen and the
desktop begins loading another message box for windows networking
says"unable to load the dynamic link library.....nwnp32.dll.........the
system cannot find the file specified......some or all of the following
feature is not available.................Netware. what i need to know is
what steps and in what orded to i need to do to fix this .i would like to
set the pc up to access the internet but now cant. I have also considered
reformatting the hard drive and installing WIN 98 or ME scince I have the
program discs for each.So Im not sure if I should even continue to fix this
or to go ahead and do that.
>
Anonymous
April 21, 2004 5:05:18 PM

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thank u for answereing back I have another ? now though, Once I remove the components in the reg or system.ini what di I do to reinstall the needed files to access the internet scince I do not have the 95 program disc?
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Anonymous
April 21, 2004 5:05:19 PM

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BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5E769204-E26D-4ECB-A68D-99535AFD0EF4@microsoft.com...
> thank u for answereing back I have another ? now though, Once I remove the components in the reg or system.ini what di I do to
reinstall the needed files to access the internet scince I do not have the 95 program disc?
>
Run a search of your hard drive for *.CAB files.

If you have the Windows CAB files, you can point the install
to that folder instead of to the CD-ROM drive.
Anonymous
April 21, 2004 5:05:20 PM

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----- Hugh Candlin wrote: -----


BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5E769204-E26D-4ECB-A68D-99535AFD0EF4@microsoft.com...
> thank u for answereing back I have another ? now though, Once I remove the components in the reg or system.ini what di I do to
reinstall the needed files to access the internet scince I do not have the 95 program disc?
>
Run a search of your hard drive for *.CAB files.

If you have the Windows CAB files, you can point the install
to that folder instead of to the CD-ROM drive.

Would I save myself alot of time and stress by just reformatting and installing windows 98 or ME instead of doing all this?I have 4 children and 2 of them are 2 yr old twins so I have alot on my plate as it is!! preety sure the sytem requirements will accomadate for 98 or ME?
Anonymous
April 21, 2004 5:05:21 PM

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BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:489CF769-9803-45CA-828F-CFAD3CE616CB@microsoft.com...
>
>
> ----- Hugh Candlin wrote: -----
>
>
> BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5E769204-E26D-4ECB-A68D-99535AFD0EF4@microsoft.com...
> > thank u for answereing back I have another ? now though, Once I remove the components in the reg or system.ini what di I
do to
> reinstall the needed files to access the internet scince I do not have the 95 program disc?
> >
> Run a search of your hard drive for *.CAB files.
>
> If you have the Windows CAB files, you can point the install
> to that folder instead of to the CD-ROM drive.
>
> Would I save myself alot of time and stress by just reformatting and installing windows 98 or ME instead of doing all this?I
have 4 children and 2 of them are 2 yr old twins so I have alot on my plate as it is!! preety sure the sytem requirements will
accomadate for 98 or ME?

Yes.
Anonymous
April 21, 2004 6:16:10 PM

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If you access the Internet at the moment then adjusting the registry or
system files by removing these entries will not affect your internet
access - the system is currently unable to locate these files, so you can
assume that they aren't important for iternet access.

If you can't currently access the internet then you may need access to the
Windows installation files to do this - the files might be on your hard
drive as Hugh has suggested.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP W95/W98
"BR&Y" <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5E769204-E26D-4ECB-A68D-99535AFD0EF4@microsoft.com...
> thank u for answereing back I have another ? now though, Once I remove the
components in the reg or system.ini what di I do to reinstall the needed
files to access the internet scince I do not have the 95 program disc?
>
Anonymous
April 22, 2004 5:00:51 AM

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:54:54 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com>
>BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Would I save myself alot of time and stress by just reformatting and installing windows 98 or ME instead of doing all this?I
>have 4 children and 2 of them are 2 yr old twins so I have alot on my plate as it is!! preety sure the sytem requirements will
>accomadate for 98 or ME?

>Yes.

More likely "maybe" - and that's best-case.

If you are too lazy / can't be bothered / unable to troubleshoot the
original problem, you won't be better off when it comes again.

In fact, you may well find you aren't able to complete the process of
rebuilding the software installation, setting up the required device
drivers, finding and applying patches, etc.

"Just format and re-install" is hardly EVER a shortcut...



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Anonymous
April 22, 2004 5:00:52 AM

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cquirke (MVP Win9x) <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message news:84vd80582pbrp9jh1aqv1ihfjh2d9el8r7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:54:54 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com>
> >BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> >> Would I save myself alot of time and stress by just reformatting and installing windows 98 or ME instead of doing all
this?I
> >have 4 children and 2 of them are 2 yr old twins so I have alot on my plate as it is!! preety sure the sytem requirements will
> >accomadate for 98 or ME?
>
> >Yes.
>
> More likely "maybe" - and that's best-case.
>
> If you are too lazy / can't be bothered / unable to troubleshoot the
> original problem, you won't be better off when it comes again.

I am not lazy. I can be bothered to troubleshoot the problem.
I am able to troubleshoot the problem.
>
> In fact, you may well find you aren't able to complete the process of
> rebuilding the software installation, setting up the required device
> drivers, finding and applying patches, etc.

I covered all of that in a prior post in another thread.
>
> "Just format and re-install" is hardly EVER a shortcut...

She isn't doing a re-install. That is the salient point.
She proposed an alternative, which I concurred with.
She is switching from 95 to a better OS, namely 98.

She, by the way, not me. You are addressing me
A As if it was my original problem
B As if I do not know what I am doing
Anonymous
April 22, 2004 3:47:36 PM

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:01:51 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com>
>cquirke (MVP Win9x) <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote
>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:54:54 -0700, "Hugh Candlin" <no@spam.com>
>> >BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote

>> >> Would I save myself alot of time and stress by just reformatting
>> >> and installing windows 98 or ME instead of doing all this? I
>> >have 4 children and 2 of them are 2 yr old twins so I have alot on
>> my plate as it is!! preety sure the sytem requirements will accomadate
>> for 98 or ME?

>> >Yes.

>> More likely "maybe" - and that's best-case.

>> If you are too lazy / can't be bothered / unable to troubleshoot the
>> original problem, you won't be better off when it comes again.

>I am not lazy. I can be bothered to troubleshoot the problem.
>I am able to troubleshoot the problem.

I was "writing to" the questioner (original poster) rather than
replier, in this case. Perhaps I should be less lazy myself, and use
name-explicit rather than generic "you" in such cases :-)

>> In fact, you may well find you aren't able to complete the process of
>> rebuilding the software installation, setting up the required device
>> drivers, finding and applying patches, etc.

>> "Just format and re-install" is hardly EVER a shortcut...

>She isn't doing a re-install. That is the salient point.
>She proposed an alternative, which I concurred with.
>She is switching from 95 to a better OS, namely 98.

She isn't installing the new OS over the old, in the hope of fixing
instabilities in the old; that's the best news. If the cause is known
to be related to the older OS, then you'd both be spot on.

But if the cause is unknown, you'd lose forensics that could have
helped figure it out. Ungood if the problem recurs.

>She, by the way, not me. You are addressing me
>A As if it was my original problem
>B As if I do not know what I am doing

Apologies; I don't really write "to" anyone in particular, and often
have the original poster rather than replier in mind. In this case I
was writing to the original poster who posed the question that I read
as "I can't be bothered with this, gimmie an easy out".



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Anonymous
April 22, 2004 4:20:12 PM

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:51:05 -0700, "BR&Y" <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com>

Having just replied to Hugh, I thort I'd revisit the original post.
As it's one long run-on sentence that doesn't wrap when quoted, I
passed it up as not worth the effort the first time round - sorry!

(yeah, I'm lazy too <g> )

>the pc I have is running windows 95 I do not have the windows 95 disc
>the pc is an old one that was given to me ,my children are currentley using
>it to play games on.I do have a startup disc win 95 (a) and win 95 (b) (as
>Im not sure which version is running on the pc)

OK. To tell what Windows you have, do this:

Start, Settings, Control Panel, System icon
- if it says "Windows 95 ...B" it's Win95 SR2.x (B)
- if it says "Windows 95 ...C" it's a later Win95 SR2.x
- if it says "Windows 95 ...A" it's Win95 SP1
- if it says "Windows 95", no letters, it's original Win95 release

The other clue is the time stamp on OS code files like Command.com:
- 09:50 is original Win95, ?SP1 too
- 11:11 is Win95B, i.e. SR2.xx
- 19:98 is Win98 original, AFAIK
- 22:22 is Win98 SE

>that I downloaded from boot disc.com The first of the problems is when pc
>is turned on and begins to boot i get a message "conflicts I/O port :2f8.....
>press F1 to continue"

That message is from BIOS (the hardware set of programs that start the
computer before any Operating System is loaded). Installing a new
version of Windows will not make that go away; though improved
Plug-n-Play (PnP) capabilities *may* handle it more gracefully, it
can't change the BIOS's message unless the setting is such that can be
changed in the BIOS's PnP Non-Volatile RAM.

IO Port 02F8 is one of the serial (COM) ports; COM2, to be exact.
It's likely to be conflicting with an internal modem that's set to use
the same port as the system's built-in COM2:.

If your PC's date is old and clock loses time when the PC is switched
off, then it's likely the CMOS battery has gone flat, thus losing any
non-standard settings that may have relocated or disabled the system's
own COM2: to keep it from conflicting.

If OTOH someone added the modem card without first setting the jumpers
on it to use a different port, then that's the problem.

>the next issue is after the message windows 95 is starting then 3
>other messages display"cannot find a device file that may or may
>not be needed to run windows or windows applications.

AFAIK, those arise from one of two places:
- the registry, usually deep within .DLL and .VXD entries
- the System.ini file's [386Enh] section

RegEdit is what you use to troubleshoot the registry, and it's the one
part of Windows that won't "hold your hand" so careful there!

>..The windows registry or system.ini file refers to this device file
>,but the device file no longer exists...

Yeah, as above. Ballpoint the names of the files it wants and post
back - if it's three .VXDs with names like Netsupp.vxd or Vredir, then
the PC may have (had) Client for Novell Networks installed as per
Start, Settings, Control Panel, Networking.

As a stand-alone PC with no LAN, you want to be rid of that, but if
you make any changes in that dialog box, the system will nag for the
Windows CD that you don't have.

The version of CD you use has to be *exactly* correct, else you will
end up with version soup; see answer to first question.

>...then the file names after each one are nwlink.vxd , nwredir.vxd
>and nscl.vxd

Yeah, that looks like a networking screwup alright.

>says"unable to load the dynamic link library.....nwnp32.dll.....

Also networking-related

>Netware.

As I suspected! <barf>

>I have also considered reformatting the hard drive and installing WIN 98
>or ME scince I have the program discs for each.

Hm. I'd first want to check that the hardware's OK, as installing
wads of code through the lens of bad hardware will typically leave you
with porridge... you'd wish you could get back to a working Win95 that
can play games, marred only by a few startup error messages.

www.memtest86.com would be my first starting point, to download a free
RAM tester that will make a boot diskette that you should run
overnight; must be TOTALLY error-free before moving on. You can also
use www.simmtester.com in the same way, for same purpose.

Next, I'd check the HD, and the easiest way to do that is to run
Scandisk from DOS mode (press F8 at boot, choose Command Prompt Only,
enter the SCANDISK C: command, Yes to surface check). Any...
- existing B(ad) blocks on surface scan
- cluster counter pauses, indicating disk retries, on surface scan
- new errors on surface scan
....means the HD should be replaced. You may be VERY sorry later!

If you are going to format the HD, you will need to boot off a
correct-version diskette that can access the correct-version CD. Not
only must you be absolutely certain these materials are to hand, work,
and are free of viruses, you will also need driver disks for your
hardware, such as display, sound, modem etc.

If the PC's Windows 95 vintage, the driver disks may not have drivers
for Win98 or WinME - but these newer OSs may be able to recognise and
drive the hardware directly. You'll only know when it's too late to
back out, unfortunately. Although WinME is newer, its built-in driver
support was poorer than that on Win98.

>So Im not sure if I should even continue to fix this or to
>go ahead and do that.

I'd work in layers:
- first, check the hardware's OK
- as above, for RAM and HD tests
- also, make sure all fans are working
- next, make sure there are no malware ("viruses")
- boot from known-clean protected DOS diskette
- use free DOS-based av from:
www.f-prot.com
www.sophos.com
www.nod32.com
- scan all files and save (or ballpoint) a log of results
- also scan your:
- OS boot diskettes
- OS and driver CDs, especially any CDRs
- next, verify you have everything you need for software rebuild
- clean, correct-version boot diskette boots, drives CD
- correct-version OS CD that works
- any device drivers you need
- any application software install disks you need
- any product codes etc. required by these
- only now is time spent rebuilding the OS likely to be well spent!



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April 23, 2004 4:08:28 AM

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Install win 98.It is an old computer and it can't get any
worse.I have reformatted many times,and I have found that
my computer runs much better afterwards.
>-----Original Message-----
>On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:01:51 -0700, "Hugh Candlin"
<no@spam.com>
>>cquirke (MVP Win9x) <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote
>>> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:54:54 -0700, "Hugh Candlin"
<no@spam.com>
>>> >BR&Y <oxxbpxxo@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>> >> Would I save myself alot of time and stress by
just reformatting
>>> >> and installing windows 98 or ME instead of doing
all this? I
>>> >have 4 children and 2 of them are 2 yr old twins so I
have alot on
>>> my plate as it is!! preety sure the sytem requirements
will accomadate
>>> for 98 or ME?
>
>>> >Yes.
>
>>> More likely "maybe" - and that's best-case.
>
>>> If you are too lazy / can't be bothered / unable to
troubleshoot the
>>> original problem, you won't be better off when it
comes again.
>
>>I am not lazy. I can be bothered to troubleshoot the
problem.
>>I am able to troubleshoot the problem.
>
>I was "writing to" the questioner (original poster)
rather than
>replier, in this case. Perhaps I should be less lazy
myself, and use
>name-explicit rather than generic "you" in such cases :-
)
>
>>> In fact, you may well find you aren't able to complete
the process of
>>> rebuilding the software installation, setting up the
required device
>>> drivers, finding and applying patches, etc.
>
>>> "Just format and re-install" is hardly EVER a
shortcut...
>
>>She isn't doing a re-install. That is the salient point.
>>She proposed an alternative, which I concurred with.
>>She is switching from 95 to a better OS, namely 98.
>
>She isn't installing the new OS over the old, in the hope
of fixing
>instabilities in the old; that's the best news. If the
cause is known
>to be related to the older OS, then you'd both be spot
on.
>
>But if the cause is unknown, you'd lose forensics that
could have
>helped figure it out. Ungood if the problem recurs.
>
>>She, by the way, not me. You are addressing me
>>A As if it was my original problem
>>B As if I do not know what I am doing
>
>Apologies; I don't really write "to" anyone in
particular, and often
>have the original poster rather than replier in mind. In
this case I
>was writing to the original poster who posed the question
that I read
>as "I can't be bothered with this, gimmie an easy out".
>
>
>
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> 'Parade of New Products' with a shovel.
>>--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
>.
>
Anonymous
April 23, 2004 4:43:45 AM

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Brad <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:310001c42901$c6f7ef20$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Install win 98.It is an old computer and it can't get any
> worse.I have reformatted many times,and I have found that
> my computer runs much better afterwards.

Sumtimes I jest sitz-n-cries.
An' sumtimes I jest cries.......
!