Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Opinions on Ilyama 4431, 4315? Specs inside...

Last response: in Computer Peripherals
Share
January 18, 2002 12:14:38 PM

Hello,

I was wondering how this stacked up against the other top monitors, like the Compaq 7020 and 8030. I know these are 17" and the 8030 is 18", but the one Ilyama is 17.4", so I think it's close enough to compare with. It looks like they have similar specs, a little less in some areas, but better in other areas. I've read many good things about Ilyama on their CRT monitors, but not much about LCD's. Any thoughts?

Ilyama ProLite AS4431DT/ AS4431UT-BK
Pixel 0.27mm 17.4 ”TFT color LCD
Digital Linear smoothing function
Auto Size Adjustment function
Analog, DVI ,AV i(S-video and composit video)=total 4 input connectors
TCO '99
90 Dgrees-Rotating screen

Specification
-----------------------------------------------------------
LCD 17.4 "TFT LCD
Pixel : 0.27mm(H)x0.27mm(V)
View angle: Horizontal 160 degrees ,Vertical 160 degrees
Response Time 25ms
Luminance 220cd/m2
Contrast Ratio 400:1
-----------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO Bandwidth: 135MHz
Horizontal Frequency: 24.8-80KHz
Vertical Frequency: 56-85Hz
Max. Resolution: 1280 x 1024 (SXGA)
Signal Input: Analog /D-SUB mini 15pin,DVI-D ,Composite-Video,S-Video
Color: Full Color
-----------------------------------------------------------
POWER Input voltage: AC90-230V 50/60Hz
Consumption: MAX 40w
Energy Saving: EPA/VESA DPMS
-----------------------------------------------------------
REGULATION TCO' 99 /TCO'95 (-BK model)
FCC-B,UL/C-UL
-----------------------------------------------------------
OTHER VESA DDC 2B(TM)
1W x 2 Speakers/Phone mini-Jack(3.5mm stereo)
USB : 1xUpstream,4xDownstream(Rev 1.1)
90 Dgrees-Rotating screen
VESA FPMPMI Compliant(Arm Mount)
-----------------------------------------------------------
DIMENSION W16.8" x H16.8" x D8.3"
-----------------------------------------------------------WEIGHT 16.5 Lbs (inc. Stand)
-----------------------------------------------------------WARRANTY 3 Years Parts ,labor, Back light


Model Number : AS4315UT/ AS4315UT-BK
Pixel 0.26mm 17 ”TFT color LCD
Analog D-Sub +DVI-I

Specifications
-----------------------------------------------------------
LCD 17 "TFT LCD
Pixel : 0.264mm(H)x0.264mm(V)
View angle: Horizontal 150 degrees ,Vertical 125 degrees
Response Time 25ms
Luminance 250cd/m2
Contrast Ratio 350:1
-----------------------------------------------------------
VIDEO Bandwidth: 135MHz
Horizontal Frequency: 24.8-80KHz
Vertical Frequency: 56-85Hz
Max. Resolution: 1280 x 1024 (SXGA)
Signal Input: Analog D-SUB mini 15pin +DVI-I(29 pin)
Color: Full Color
-----------------------------------------------------------
POWER Input voltage: AC90-230V 50/60Hz
Consumption: MAX 60w
Energy Saving: EPA/VESA DPMS
-----------------------------------------------------------
REGULATION TCO' 99 /TCO'95 (-BK model)
FCC-B,UL/C-UL
-----------------------------------------------------------
OTHER VESA DDC 2B(TM)
Speakers (Option)
Security lock: Compatible with KensingtonR security systems
VESA FPMPMI Compliant(Arm Mount :Screw Pitch 100mm)
Cables : Power code,DVI-D-DVI-D,VGA
-----------------------------------------------------------
DIMENSION W15.6" x H14.4" (3.3" adjustable ) x D8.4"
-----------------------------------------------------------
WEIGHT 13.7 Lbs (inc. Stand)
-----------------------------------------------------------
WARRANTY 3 Years Parts ,labor, Back light
Anonymous
January 18, 2002 12:38:07 PM

There are only a few manufg. that make the actual LCD screens so by the looks of the specs it's the same one on the planar pv174 and the VG175 from Viewsonic. Maybee other 17.4 as well with similar specs.
January 24, 2002 3:40:04 AM

Thanks for the info. In researching this more, I've found what you mean.

Now,my question is, how do these monitors compare with the Compaq 7020? With a brightness of 220, good contrast at 400, and a 35ms response time, these seem like pretty good monitors(Planar PV174, Princeteon SENergy 750). They can be found for $700 or so, which is fairly inexpensive relatively.

What makes the Compaq's better? I am pairing this monitor to a new PC, Athlon XP 1900+, 1024MB RAM, GF3 Ti500 card, so I want to try and get the best monitor I can...

Thanks!
Related resources
Can't find your answer ? Ask !
January 24, 2002 4:04:52 PM

the TFT7020 has a 25ms response time, which is deffinitly important. I play all kinds of games, and watch DVDs and DivX movies on my screen and its simply awesome. So far I havn't gotten a DVI video card yet and I'm still amazed with the quality.

Trusting every aspect of our lives to a giant computer was the greatest thing we ever did -Homer
January 24, 2002 4:18:06 PM

Oops, I made a typo...both the Planar PV-174 and Princeton SENergy 750 have 25ms response times(I mistakenly typed 35). So, they are even in that regard. They use the same screen, so they have a 220n brightness and 400:1 contrast ratio and they also have a USB port which is convenient. At $699 shipped for a Planar, it seems like a very nice deal. Is there something I am missing?

Comparison:

TFT-7020 PV-174
Size 17" 17.4"
Brightness 250 nits 220 nits
Contrast 400:1 400:1
Response Time 25ms 25ms
Viewing Angle 150 160
Dot Pitch .264mm .270mm

Is there something I am missing that makes the Compaq better? I just want to make sure I am making the correct decision. I appreciate any help...

Thanks,
Frank
Anonymous
January 24, 2002 5:00:43 PM

VERY interesting about the Planar PV174 and Princeton SENergy 750. I've seen the Planar going for $700, but the Princeton is going for around $800. The specs are very very similar between the three monitors, so the question is are there any downsides? Off the the internet for more info. ;) 

*EDIT*
BTW, I just found that the Princeton also has:

- 1600 x 1200 Maximum Resolution.
- Sleek One Touch Control Dial
- Positional High Resolution On-Screen Display
- Four-Way Ergonomic Adjustment: Tilt, Swivel, Height and Pivot
- Pivot® Enabled (Portrait Display Pivot® software included)
- VESA® Wall/Arm Mount Ready
- Built-in USB Hub
- Advanced Digital Zooming and Panning
- Plug and Play Ready
- TCO'99 Compliant
- Full 3-Year Limited Warranty

I also found that CDW will honor a replacement on either of these monitors if there is even 1 dead pixel. I'm leaning....my wallet is opening....my wife is yelling....

Ron

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by computerboy on 01/24/02 02:15 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
January 24, 2002 5:03:26 PM

Exactly what I'm thinking. The Planar seems to have similar specs and features, and a couple extras as well. The Planar also allows you to pivot the screen 90 degrees if you wish. If it's going to save me $100-$150, I'll jump on it. I have no way of seeing them in person though. The only thing is a brightness of 220. I don't know how that relates, but some have said they get too bright too...

Thanks
Anonymous
January 24, 2002 5:17:25 PM

220nits of brightness is plenty enough most CRT screens hardly do around 170nits.
January 24, 2002 5:37:22 PM

Thanks, that was the assumption I was going under, so 220 was going to be plenty. The Solaris is like 800, that seems like it would be blinding...
Anonymous
January 24, 2002 6:16:54 PM

There is one thing I would watch out for. Manufacturer rated specs are questionable at best, and of course seeing all three panels with your own eyes would be ideal, while not likely. There have been many reports of the Compaq TFT7020s and TFT8030s from owners that state almost zero ghosting in games (even at high framerates). On the other hand, I've seen quite a few reports from Planar 17.4" owners (CT & PV models) of very noticeable ghosting at high framerates.

Now, it could be that all of the Planar, Viewsonic, Princeton owners, etc simply have better eyes and perception, but I'm betting my money that the Compaq displays ARE actually better in the pixel response department.

I guess I'll see for myself when the TFT7020 arrives.
January 24, 2002 6:30:50 PM

Yes, I have a hard time believing the PV174 is 25ms. The ghosting was very noticeable. However, I may just be picky, I would really like to actually SEE a non-MVA 17" with a 25ms response to say for sure (like the Compaq).
January 24, 2002 6:31:04 PM

Thanks for the info. This is the exact reason I'm spending more time researching and not rushing. I might see if I can get out to CDW to look, but that may be difficult...

Thanks
January 24, 2002 8:43:23 PM

Ghost-ing?? Is it that thing I DON'T see on my TFT7020:)  Yeah, there definetly is no ghosting in games, and it just looks awesome. Oh, and that thing about teh owner's eyes not being good, well, I have better than perfect vision, and notice refresh rates of 100Hz, so my eyes are VERY picky. Ghosting is gone in my TFT7020.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.
January 24, 2002 9:33:57 PM

There's your proof that what the specs say don't necessarily mean jack. Two different monitors with 25ms response yet one shows more ghosting than the other. Again, either try to find one in a store or make sure there's a good return policy. ;) 
January 24, 2002 9:48:45 PM

What u say is VERY true. The L365, which is a sweet ass monitor shows some ghosting in things that are 25FPS+, where as say TFT7020 doesn't. There are....shortcuts....one can take when measuring the response time.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.
January 25, 2002 1:18:28 AM

Thanks everyone for the information. If I can't get to the store to put these through the test, I think the many positive comments(here and other places I've looked) on the 7020 have me picking that one up.

Thanks again for the help!
January 25, 2002 1:20:03 AM

Enjoy!

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.
Anonymous
January 25, 2002 11:33:27 PM

Hey Frankjp,

If you do find a store that has them (CDW does, but has a restricted return policy on them), post here. I also live in the Chicago area and would rather buy one from a store that fully guarantees them than doing it mailorder (although mailorder from Compaq is really fine). Just a personal preference.

Ron
January 28, 2002 4:41:58 AM

I've found some smaller places just by using the locate retailer link on Compaq's site, but it doesn't look too promising. I will likely order in 2-3 weeks or so, if I can hold off :)  I'll post here if I find something...

Thanks!
Anonymous
January 28, 2002 11:23:53 AM

buy.com has the TFT8030 in stock and ready to be shipped and the price is cheaper than on compaq site.
Anonymous
January 28, 2002 11:25:56 AM

Compaq's site lists the TFT7020 as 25ms typical while the TFT8030 is listed at 20ms.

I doubt TFT8030 is really 20ms unless Compaq can verify the claim.
January 28, 2002 2:13:54 PM

It could happen. Thing is that with a 300:1 contrast, the picture may not be too great.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.
!