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Ummmm CPU runnin a lil too hot for a AMD 64 3200+

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February 2, 2006 6:55:10 PM

Overclocked at 2.4Ghz my vencie 3200+ is idle at 39~40 and load 47~48......I have a Zalman 7000B CNPS ALCU cooler....

http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/7000B-ALCU_AMD.html

It goes to 51 degrees C on prime95....is that fine or whast the best option without changing the heatsink.......i used Zalman thermal compund which is supposed to be very good?

thanks.
February 2, 2006 7:03:23 PM

With that cooler and overclocked, that is in the range of ok.
Might clean and reseat cooler for a couple of degrees...
But if you want it to stay around 41C or 42C, a water kit like the BigWaterSE will do that for about a hundred bucks.
February 2, 2006 7:17:05 PM

Wow, that things runs about 10 degrees hotter than my Intel 630. That is within normal range though man. Don't worry about it. :D 
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February 2, 2006 7:17:19 PM

man ims till not sure if my CPU is a venice or winchester cuz i ran the 3dmark and system info...says CPU capabilities....i dont see SSE3 anywhere but when i run CPU Z i see the SSE3..

what confusion is this ?
February 2, 2006 7:50:13 PM

its funny how people complain about there temps, u overclocked 400mhz and ur full load temp is lower than my idle temp (49 on amd64 3700+ stock settings) dont even post anything about temps until you hit 60's, die temps for most amd is in the 70's intels prescott doenst die until 80's i believe, but 49 full load and complaining is a joke.
February 3, 2006 12:58:18 AM

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Overclocked at 2.4Ghz my vencie 3200+ is idle at 39~40 and load 47~48......I have a Zalman 7000B CNPS ALCU cooler....


I overclocked my 3200+ Venice to 2.4Ghz with the stock HSF (No thermalpaste :p ) and it reached 55'C under load from 3DMark05. I overclocked to 2.5Ghz, but it up to 60'C and would crash halfway through 3Dmark05 test.

I think your system is running moderately good, I personally though the Zalman would have kept it a fraction cooler though :?
February 3, 2006 6:12:31 AM

Temps from a 25c sensor on the mobo, or built into the die, that have never been calabrated, should be taken with a grain of salt. If your temps get too high, your system will crash. If the air coming out of your case feels hot, add an intake fan.
Amd has been saying for years, they only endorse psus that have a bottom intake fan. If your psu doesn't have one, get one that does.
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February 3, 2006 12:32:30 PM

"die temps for most amd is in the 70's intels prescott doenst die until 80's i believe, but 49 full load and complaining is a joke."

My XP2000+, when it's thermal paste application was over a year old, started suffereing from freezes/lockups; a quick jump into the BIOS showed I had core temps of 98C!!!! (I'm surprised it survived...!)

Clean core/sink, new application of paste, good as new...
February 3, 2006 12:51:19 PM

dude it is really hot because mine is idle:32 load:39 but with default voltage settings loweer the voltage you don't need much to get 2.4
February 3, 2006 4:24:50 PM

ehem ehm....your coooler? I have a CNPS 7000B and u go the 9500 with the heatpipes

also if i put it at defaut voltage the computer restarts :roll:

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February 3, 2006 6:17:10 PM

ok.. you know the highest limit is 65 C (on the official site)venice 3200 can stand. if you can keep it maximum 55 C ı think there is nothing to be afraid of. if you have space add some case fans. (ı have 5)
February 3, 2006 6:43:50 PM

god, not every cpu is identical... u prob got a rejected 3800 (runs at 2.4 stock) and they just lowered the speeds because it has the same cache, if u have to raise the vcore to make it run stable and its under 60 at full load then theres nothing to complain about, ur mobo may have a faulty sensor too, touch the heatsink and see if its hot, if its only warm to the touch stop worrying until ur computer crashes, then clock it down to 2.2
February 3, 2006 8:16:33 PM

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u prob got a rejected 3800 (runs at 2.4 stock) and they just lowered the speeds because it has the same cache

sorry ı did not get it , isn't it normal that my cpu runs 2.4 without any voltage settings and idle:32 load:39 with a zalman cnps9500?
February 3, 2006 8:21:18 PM

i duno i dun have a 3200 and i dont overclock but since my 3700 754 (clocked at 2.4 stock) is running at 49 idle, im sure that 39 under full load is average, 32 idle is very cool as well... but the other kid here running at 49 under full load has higher temps because vcore was turned up a lil, and 1 of the reasons why his cpu wont clock at 2.4 under stock vcore and be stable is because it was a rejected 3800 cpu that didnt pass tests as the 1.35? vcore at 2.4 ghz, so it was slowed down to the 3200 speeds and sold as a 3200.... i duno if amd does this with there chips but nvidia does that with chips that dont pass specs (thats what people say the 7800gs for agp is, a slowed down 7800gt)
February 4, 2006 9:14:09 AM

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its funny how people complain about there temps, u overclocked 400mhz and ur full load temp is lower than my idle temp (49 on amd64 3700+ stock settings) dont even post anything about temps until you hit 60's, die temps for most amd is in the 70's intels prescott doenst die until 80's i believe, but 49 full load and complaining is a joke.


The temps can vary considering the climate where you live. In summers we get temps as high as 50C in Lahore (Pakistan) so you can only imagine what sort of temps a CPU can reach. Anyhow, in winters we can go as low as -2C and the CPU then starts to idle in low twenties.

Anyhow, my A64 3700+ (Sandiego) idles at 32C and stays below or around 40C on stock cooler (HSF) with outside/climate temps of 20-21C. I overclocked the CPU to 2640Mhz for sometime to check the temps. It started ideling at 33-34C and on load went as high as 45C. This again with climate temps of 20-22C.

The temps you are listing for your 3700+ are way too high. Either you are living in very warm climate, or the HSF is not properly fixed with thermal paste etc., or there is no decent airflow in your case (I only use one extra fan to blow out air apart from the PSU Fans), or something wrong with your 3700+ silicon.

Also not sure if everyone takes advantage of Cool'n'Quiet technology when they complain about high Idle temps of their A64 CPUs. you have to turn it on in BIOS (mostly) and also chose appropriate power theme under WindowsXP.
February 4, 2006 1:16:45 PM

i have a 3700 clawhammer core, those were known to run hotter, also i believe its a misread becuase it runs stable at 67C while playing bf2, the heatsink is attached fine, the heastsink i have cant be attached wrong, its just the combo of a crap mobo and clawhammercore, also i have 2 120 mm fans blowing at 100cfm
February 4, 2006 4:15:20 PM

I just read another post by you in another thread where you mentioned that yours is infact a S754 3700+ Clawhammer which runs on 2.4Ghz (stock). I suppose thats the reason why your CPU runs much hotter then mine as mine is a S939 Sandiego core 3700+ which runs slower at 2.2Ghz (stock).

Maybe the HSF which came with your 3700+ is also different from the one I got with mine. Anyhow, sorry for my misunderstanding and getting alarmed at such high temps for a 3700+.
February 4, 2006 4:41:01 PM

its a thermaltake silent boost but even with a window fan blowing on it it shouldnt be 50 idle but u people should gegt a sticky made for the people that think 38C idle is burning. especially when u overclocked ur comp 200mhz u should at least have the knowledge to at LEAST use google to find the die temp of ur cpu, or at least find dangerous temps... good rule of thumb, if u can overclock it that much and it runs stable, dont post anything and u wont get flames
February 4, 2006 5:18:24 PM

You could try to run your 3200+ at stock voltage even though it's OC'ed to 2,4ghz. My 3200+ venice does very well 2,45ghz on the stock voltage (1,35v-1,375v)

Even lowering voltage by 0,5V maybe enough to get your load temps under 45. Just try as low voltage as you can as long it runs stable.
February 5, 2006 3:44:14 AM

I agree. I have a 3000+ venice @ 2.2 (400Mhz over stock) @ 1.45 in an Aopen XC cube that runs full load 24/7 My max temp is 46C from the bios. The HSF is never even warm to the touch. BTW is very quiet at high speeds.

You should lower your voltage.
You can also use a program called Crystal CPUID that has a user selectable cool & quiet config that includes voltages.

It can drop your idle temps significantly.
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