Opteron 165 Pricing

[adreen]

Does anyone think the prices of the Opteron 165 will drop in price within a month of two?

I have a deal for one for 379 CAD plus taxes = 435.85 CAD
The thing is I won't be building my comp for real until next month around March 11 or so, but I'm afraid stock of the 165 will deplete by then.
Anyone have any hunches on future pricing?
I'm guessing it's probably not going to drop since it's already at a solid price and demand is considerably high for it.
So should I buy it now? Or buy it later?
The 379 price is already discounted from 415+tax = 477.25!
Or should I just get the x2 3800+? Plenty of supply and will probably end up getting cheaper.

 

[Vile]

Hopefully they will

 

[ltcommander_data]

AMD has been trying to discourage consumers from buying Opterons (1xx), because it's demand has resulted in tightened supply for the corporate market that the chips are intended for. To this effect, AMD has recently increased the the prices for Opterons, with the exception of the Opteron 180 which actually received a large drop. The prices for the X2s have been coming down to encourage consumers to buy them instead.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29095

The popularity of the Opterons has been mainly due to their overclocking potential. If you don't plan on overclocking much, the X2s are just as good.

 

[adreen]

thanx for the informative response
that makes alot of sense. i had no idea they raised the prices on the opterons?
i plan on overclocking. gonna start off small (2.4), and if i need it make the jump to like 2.7-2.8
i hear the Opteron chips are of better quality compared to the x2 since they're designed to handle huge amounts of data at once and are comparable to the fx chips. this true? or am i being misinformed.

 

[k2000k]

I dont know about fx chips, or being able to handle more data. That is dependent on Cache and speed. Opterons are made of better materials because they are meant to undergo more stress than an Athlon, so it is able to overclock better than an Athlon.

 

[dizman]

I ordered my Opteron 165 on Jan 20th for $355 USD from newegg and received it broke on the 26th and will just now get the replacement on Feb 6th, but my point is in the time I've been waiting for it to be replaced it has dropped in price by $27 USD in about a week and half!

Currently the Retail is cheaper than the OEM, not sure why that is

 

[adreen]

better material = better quality
hmmmm...i've been watching the prices of it closely for the past month. hasn't budged a bit!

 

[dizman]

better material = better quality
hmmmm...i've been watching the prices of it closely for the past month. hasn't budged a bit!

Well my invoice doesn't lie, nor does my credit card statement which both says $355! Though I was wrong I ordered it on January 22nd not 20th and now it's listed for $328 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588

And for the record if you order from newegg (anyone) pay the extra $$$ and get FedEx shipping it will save you massive headaches if something does happen to your stuff.

 

[adreen]

i'm not doubting u haha
canadian pricing has not dropped much tho

 

[superboss]

Opterons are made of better materials because they are meant to undergo more stress than an Athlon, so it is able to overclock better than an Athlon.

hmmm, I would have thought the Home/gamer market with all the dvd conversion and compression, encoding and gaming would mean the Athlon would be more stressed than a Business Used Opteron???

The Opteron if so successful at overclocking they would work out to be cheaper than the Athlon X2 64??? What do you think?

 

[RichPLS]

The Opteron if so successful at overclocking they would work out to be cheaper than the Athlon X2 64??? What do you think?

Yeah, you must be right, they must be wrong.

 

[DuxSyagrius]

If you can get it for anything equivalent to $325 USD then I say buy it now before you're stuck looking on ebay. I think the opteron 165 is a worth the extra $30 compared to the $295 I paid for my X2 3800 from ZZF. If you wait too long, I bet it will go out of stock at those prices. New egg has it for 325 but I know its current stock (that it probobly paid 290-300 for) will be gone soon and the prices will go up since AMD is going to make them pay a higher price for future shipments. Prices can only go up I think. If I may add another opinion, if you are going to wait 2-3 months for prices to drop, why not wait another 2-3 months for an AM2 setup? (unless you dont to buy new RAM of course)

 

[RichPLS]

You know in Dec, I had a choice of $520 for a X2-4800 at newegg, or a Opteron 175 oem for $459 at newegg.
Guess which I got?

 

[DuxSyagrius]

anyone with 12,000 posts must be willing to spend $520 on a CPU...

 

[RichPLS]

:roll: :tongue: So I took the Opty for $459 and got a TT BigWaterSE kit for $95 as cooling.
Really impressed with system.

 

[DuxSyagrius]

I opted for the 3800 the day it dropped to 295 w/free shipping. I hope I made the right decision. I want good encoding performance with out much heat so I dont think I will go past 2.4 ghz and even when I do that it will be at the end of my system's life. i think I will be ok with the performance considering i am leaping from a XP-M 2400 @2.15 ghz. if I can get 45fps on auto GK I will poop all over myself. I didnt spend too much on the mobo and RAM so I hope 2.4 ghz is possible. Everyone else seems to be able to do it so I should be able.

 

[sepuko]

You know in Dec, I had a choice of $520 for a X2-4800 at newegg, or a Opteron 175 oem for $459 at newegg.

Damn! X2 4400+ is 528$ without VAT here! The 4600 is 725$! again without VAT! The VAT here is 20%!you're living in wonderland guys!

 

[adreen]

What is VAT???
I'm only going to be waiting about 1 month+a couple days atmost.
Not looking to go for AM2 either, gonna stick with the proven goods.

 

[sepuko]

What is VAT???

It's a specific tax. It's over the final price of the product. Or, the goverment would like to tax every new stock with 20% of the price it's sold for. So, if i want to buy a CPU which costs 528$ the goverment makes me pay 0.2*528$ more. Products for which VAT is already been paid are not taxed.
VAT is different in different countries, there are some with bigger and some with smaller VAT %.

 

[DuxSyagrius]

I hear ya. I didnt feel like waiting for AM2. I dont know though. The TDP of the new chips will be 95W instead of 89 or 68. There has to be something good/powerful about the on chip DDR2 mem controller. There has to be some reason why the TDP is going up like that. In a way I hope the chips are that much better. It will make me feel better about buying now. But I would like to see what the future hold also.