full colour page print cost question (TEKTRONIX PHASER 850)

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Hi,

I'm considering purchasing a TEKTRONIX PHASER 850 to print booklets. I
have assessed the costs to be very good for black and white printing,
but our booklets have a full colour cover which concerns me a little
cost wise.

The booklets are A5 size, so half of an A4 sheet is full colour. The
back of the booklet will have some colour on but not very much.

I am aware that page life of cartridges is messaged on 5% coverage. So
in other words what I'm asking is will a colour cartridge with a 1000
page life run out extremely quickly if I print 850 A4 sheets with half
colour? How many cartridges would I go through?

Thanks
JH
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    I just posted a response to another of your postings but this one gives
    more information. If you were to only print in full color on half the
    area, you can double the number of pages you will output from the CMY
    ink blocks, or 300 to 160 again depending on how much color area you are
    filling (based upon 30-60% coverage per color (CMY).

    Keep in mind that areas of solid color which are blue (CM), green (CY)
    or red (MY) use two colors and browns and some grays may use all 3.

    Art

    JH wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm considering purchasing a TEKTRONIX PHASER 850 to print booklets. I
    > have assessed the costs to be very good for black and white printing,
    > but our booklets have a full colour cover which concerns me a little
    > cost wise.
    >
    > The booklets are A5 size, so half of an A4 sheet is full colour. The
    > back of the booklet will have some colour on but not very much.
    >
    > I am aware that page life of cartridges is messaged on 5% coverage. So
    > in other words what I'm asking is will a colour cartridge with a 1000
    > page life run out extremely quickly if I print 850 A4 sheets with half
    > colour? How many cartridges would I go through?
    >
    > Thanks
    > JH
  2. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    In article <sK9qd.1630$i34.512@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, JH wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm considering purchasing a TEKTRONIX PHASER 850 to print booklets. I
    > have assessed the costs to be very good for black and white printing,
    > but our booklets have a full colour cover which concerns me a little
    > cost wise.
    >
    > The booklets are A5 size, so half of an A4 sheet is full colour. The
    > back of the booklet will have some colour on but not very much.
    >
    > I am aware that page life of cartridges is messaged on 5% coverage. So
    > in other words what I'm asking is will a colour cartridge with a 1000
    > page life run out extremely quickly if I print 850 A4 sheets with half
    > colour? How many cartridges would I go through?

    You can look at the data for a Canon Pixma ip4000:
    440 pages at 5% coverage per ink tank¹
    Cyan: 550 pages, Magenta: 430 pages,
    Yellow: 360 pages (Printing ISO/JIS-SCID N5)¹

    So if you do not have individual toners, the yellow will die
    way before the cyan.

    Looking here you can get an idea about how the picture looks:
    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=iso+scid&btnG=Search

    And it has way more white than a normal picture.

    Generally, expect color to cost at least 3-4 times price of b/w.

    --
    Povl H. Pedersen - NoSpam@my.terminal.dk (yes - it works)
    Fastnet - IP telefoni: 5 kr/md Se http://www.musimi.dk
  3. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    I know everyone is just using this for comparison's sake but the 850 uses
    the "solid ink blocks" & not any sort of cartridge.
    Each block looks a little like one of those vermin killing blocks. The
    machine holds about 3 or 4 of each colour & you can pop one in even in the
    middle of a print job.
    Another comment was about the extreme useage of "ink" or more to the
    point... wax. That is right & it pays NEVER to turn off the machine. It goes
    into standby mode & only uses about 60watts which will cost you much less
    that wasting a heap of wax each time you start it from "cold".
    For curiosities sake I tried to monitor the useage for you JH, but it is
    really hard to do.
    The machine works like this.........
    First you have the blocks lined up with a heater plate at the end of them.
    This plate only works ocassionly to top up a resevior inside the "head"
    part.
    I measured each colour down to the last mili-metre & started printing.
    After 10 pages I had used NO colour but 7mm of black.
    After another 20 pages I had used no more black but had used 7mm of cyan.
    After another 30 pages I only used the remaining two colours.
    In other words it only uses some of the solid blocks just to top up the
    resevoir. Not sure if I explained it properly but I tried.
    To get an acurate idea you need to write down the number of print copies the
    machine has done & keep a GOOD record of blocks used & pages printed for
    5000 or 10000 pages & then work it out on averages.
    By the way JH, what are you using for design etc? Publisher?
    If you like you can send me a copy of the colour page & I might be able to
    give you a better idea because that lady I got the 850 for is about to do a
    big job similar to yours & I told her to keep a record of ink useage.
    Just take one of the @'s out... bruce9950@@hotmail.com
    BruceM


    "Povl H. Pedersen" <povlhp@povl-h-pedersens-computer.local> wrote in message
    news:slrncqjioq.1he.povlhp@povl-h-pedersens-computer.local...
    > In article <sK9qd.1630$i34.512@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, JH wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I'm considering purchasing a TEKTRONIX PHASER 850 to print booklets. I
    > > have assessed the costs to be very good for black and white printing,
    > > but our booklets have a full colour cover which concerns me a little
    > > cost wise.
    > >
    > > The booklets are A5 size, so half of an A4 sheet is full colour. The
    > > back of the booklet will have some colour on but not very much.
    > >
    > > I am aware that page life of cartridges is messaged on 5% coverage. So
    > > in other words what I'm asking is will a colour cartridge with a 1000
    > > page life run out extremely quickly if I print 850 A4 sheets with half
    > > colour? How many cartridges would I go through?
    >
    > You can look at the data for a Canon Pixma ip4000:
    > 440 pages at 5% coverage per ink tank¹
    > Cyan: 550 pages, Magenta: 430 pages,
    > Yellow: 360 pages (Printing ISO/JIS-SCID N5)¹
    >
    > So if you do not have individual toners, the yellow will die
    > way before the cyan.
    >
    > Looking here you can get an idea about how the picture looks:
    > http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&q=iso+scid&btnG=Search
    >
    > And it has way more white than a normal picture.
    >
    > Generally, expect color to cost at least 3-4 times price of b/w.
    >
    > --
    > Povl H. Pedersen - NoSpam@my.terminal.dk (yes - it works)
    > Fastnet - IP telefoni: 5 kr/md Se http://www.musimi.dk
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