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Looking for a video card, Cheap and Efficient

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February 5, 2006 8:35:19 PM

Firstly, this is my computer's specs:

AMD 64 3200+
PCI Express Slot
ATI Radeon X200 Chipset
1.5G Ram
It's a HP Pavalion a1206n

I'm just a "casual" gamer, only playing around twice a week on weekends.. All I'm looking for is a video card that can handle:
Battlefield 2 on Low, Call of Duty 2 on Low-Medium, AOE3 on Medium, as my computer can't even play neither Call of Duty 2 nor Battlefield 2 right now, even with everything set on lowest or off..

I was looking around and found a reasonably good one. It's PowerColor X300 SE Hypermemory 256MB (128 onboard) for 54$. Is that a good choice, and can it do what I'm asking?
Or... Maybe this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Also, I'm looking for a card between 50$-70$ (Parents won't pay for me... I'm 15 btw)

Thanks in Advance

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February 5, 2006 8:55:30 PM

this is probaly as low as you want to go if you want to play those games

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February 5, 2006 9:04:49 PM

yeah i would definately recommend an nvidia 6600gt.
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February 5, 2006 9:54:31 PM

The 6600 GT being the better choice.
February 5, 2006 11:36:24 PM

6600gt can do bf2 1024x768 at high and 2x AA. same with cod2. AOE3 is so laggy and the game just sucks imo.
February 6, 2006 12:04:34 AM

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6600gt can do bf2 1024x768 at high and 2x AA. same with cod2. AOE3 is so laggy and the game just sucks imo.


Woah!!

It's a bit on the expensive.. 110$...

Can you guys recommend something in my price range? I really like the PowerColor Radeon X300 SE w/Hypermemory, but I don't know if it'll run CoD2 and BF2 smoothly.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
February 6, 2006 12:35:13 AM

that x300 isnt going to be any better than what you have now i would suggest a x550 it will make the cut for playble fps on med settings in the games you mentioned
February 6, 2006 12:54:40 AM

well...$110 is like mad cheap..since i got mine for 170 CDN flat no tax. but since its overbudget, i'll suggest a vanilla x1300 if u can find one. lol ur specs are like better than mine at stock.. y did u buy a hp..
February 6, 2006 1:12:54 AM

110$ is out of your price range and you want to run bf2 and cod2 on medium? hm, you are really pushing it, but a non-gt 6600 would be your best bet. you had best stick to 1024x728 resolutions on most games, but that's a given with a hundred dollar budget. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
February 6, 2006 1:26:02 AM

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110$ is out of your price range and you want to run bf2 and cod2 on medium? is this a joke or something?


Lol :lol: 

Well, i barely know anything about video cards, until today.. Let's just downgrade the game settings to low.. I just don't wanna spend my money right now.. saving up for a car and i have a gf.. while my parents don't pay for ANYTHING..

I'm considering that GeForce 6600GT.. but i don't know if i'm wanting to pay 110$..

Any other suggestions or reviews on X300SE Hypermemory or X550?
I read the reviews for X300SE and they say BF2 works good on Medium and Doom 3 works good on Medium/High...? Because of the "overclock" thing which can up the memory or FPS
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2006 1:42:05 AM

Those cards aren't gaming cards. Low details, sure maybe. But COD2 hammers the video card, and those cards don't have what it takes to increase the details. The 128MB versions of the X800 and GF6600GT would both do much better and both can be found for about $100 (USD) in PCI-e.
February 6, 2006 1:45:30 AM

My older pc I was using X800pro and runs the BF2 decently. But I would suggest the 7800 gt best value and great performance.
February 6, 2006 2:15:01 AM

incase you are retarded chuck he said he is on a budget of under 100 dollars
February 6, 2006 2:16:22 AM

this guys looking for a cheap video card and not a 300$ 7800gt, get a x550 like i mentioned earlier it should be able to play your games a 1204x768 oaa oaf decently, and you wont suffer from lag while playing online (considering you internet is good)
February 6, 2006 2:24:36 AM

i would seriously doubt you can get fair fps at 1024x728 on an x550. exactly how much money do you have to spend, 2pac?
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2006 11:00:50 AM

He mentions COD2, which the X550 in the link I provided, manages a 12 fps average at 10x7 0xfsaa/0xaf. Sure lower detail levels and it should become playable somewhere.

While 7800GT surely doesn't offer him any help for his budget, it would be of great benefit for him to spend the $100 on the X800 or 6600GT, especially when he mentions FPS games like COD2.
February 6, 2006 5:05:10 PM

ADVICE!! Just avoid everything that has SE from Ati and LE from Nvidia. Under 100$ top is GF6600.
February 6, 2006 6:09:12 PM

Well, I have 300 cash right now and around 1k in bank. I'm MOST LIKELY going to spend AT MOST 100 bucks, but I prefer <80.. GAHHH i cant believe these freakin cards r so ffin expensive! wdf!

Oh, and before I got this computer, I had a home-built one with a CompUSA Radeon 9250 128mb (It had a AGP slot). I downloaded F.E.A.R and CoD2 Demos, and ran on it pretty well on lower settings (CoD2 some actually on Medium)... :roll:

I dont get the FPS thing.. wat's considered playable (no lag, pretty smooth)? Looking at this: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/digest3d/1205/itogi..., it seems every card i liked is wayyy down there..

I like this one though.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
But both 100$...

Also, what if i just overclocked the power of the memory to highest? what does the overclock thing do? does it damage the card or cpu?
February 6, 2006 6:10:13 PM

sell 1 of your parents and buy a 6800gt at least
February 6, 2006 7:23:12 PM

To do what you are looking to do, I think you will need something in the geforce 6600 series. A vanilla 6600 would likely meet your needs, but they are nearly as expensive as a 6600GT, which offers much greater performance. IMHO, a 6600GT would be the best use of your money.
February 6, 2006 7:30:52 PM

do you guys have trouble reading? he already said $110 is too much.
February 6, 2006 8:05:58 PM

i personally don't trust ebay for buying much of anything. fact is, you don't know what that person did to that video card if you buy it on ebay, and not only that, you are SCREWED if it doesn't work.
February 6, 2006 8:10:59 PM

Would you mind a refurbished card? If not then try this.

The X700 should be able to handle all the games you mentioned at those settings. However I would act fast because the stock is almost certainly limited. I think $76.00 would be a good compromise between $50.00 and $100.00. Otherwise the X550 might be your other choice.

I wouldn't mess around with overclocking. Depending on your skills, yes there is a possibility you could damage your equipment.
February 6, 2006 8:45:08 PM

Yeah, but are refurbished trustable?
February 6, 2006 9:00:08 PM

Well, I would trust a refurbished from Newegg.com over some dude on eBay anytime. I've been buying computer gear online since my 486DX4 days and I've been burned a few times. Newegg has never let me down though, but read through their Refurb policy. Their site also says they guarantee Refurbs for 15 days.

The choice is up to you. The card could've been returned because the person who bought it needed an AGP and not PCI-X (a common mistake for cards in that range). You never know.
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2006 9:21:35 PM

IMO, it is not a good choice. You are making a big sacrifice in performance and getting a refurbished card which may come as a bare card (no software, cables, adapters). The cards below would be so much better. I know it's more money, but it's new and offers alot for that $30 extra. One thing scares me about a low profile card. They are almost always 64-bit memory interface cards, which that card looks like; Just hope neweggs specs are correct as 64-bit would blow even more.

Anyway, for the extra price of a buying a 1 year old game you can get alot more performance with these, both about $100 AR.
First choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Second choice:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
February 6, 2006 9:26:45 PM

Great, you found one with 256 MB for a buck more!

If you're willing to try the refurb option, I think you'll be happy with the performance of this card for your needs. Although I don't pay much attention to them, the user's reviews (for the new model) were higher than the one I listed to you earlier.

Pauldh, I can understand your concerns regarding the Refurb issue, but according to Powercolor's site, the card is 128 bit. The 2 cards you listed are without a doubt better cards but they're also above his price range. Although that XFX 6600 GT is priced nicely after the rebate.
February 6, 2006 9:32:04 PM

6600gt > x700. anywayz, he said $110 was too much. i think a normal 6600 with some core overclocking is def. the way to go...
February 6, 2006 9:57:00 PM

Wait, so refurbished items don't come with the cables, manual, CD, etc?

And yeah, i saw that 6600GT 106, but i just don't have enough money to spend on vid cards.. I mean, when i get a job and move out, i'll probably get a 200$+ one.. but i just need one to get me through high school (decided to only play CoD2 and BF2 my 2 years left of high school)
February 6, 2006 10:09:46 PM

i would try ebay, try to get more money some how

if u can score a Gefoce 6600GT it should those games in decenate framerate
February 6, 2006 10:20:31 PM

Ok, the refurbished items usually come OEM, which means just the card itself. You may or may not get the Driver CD, cables and or adapters.

First, you'll want to download the latest drivers anyway from ATI or Powercolor so who cares about the driver disk.

Do you plan on connecting this thing to a TV or some other external video eqiupment. If so then you'll need the cables (which you can probably pick up from your local PC shop), if not then don't worry about it.

Does your monitor support DVI only? Chances are it doesn't which means the standard everday VGA connection will work just fine and you won't need the DVI adapter. Plus it's another item you can probably pick up at a local PC shop should you really need it.

If it bothers you that much to buy a refurb or if you need all of the above, then bend over, take two whacks, and buy the brand new XFX card and it will come with everything. Otherwise, try the refurb.
February 6, 2006 10:32:53 PM

check the link in my post two posts up... see what you guys think
February 6, 2006 11:09:16 PM

that would oc to gt speeds with ddr3
February 6, 2006 11:31:48 PM

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I found a card for $85 that looks pretty good to me 8) http://www.logiccircle.com/xcart4016/product.php?produc...


Wow, pretty nice for the price. I'd probably buy it if there were reviews or something on it.. And the fact that I can't find the card on newegg worries me a little

Edit: Dude, i think that's what i'm looking for. Thanks A LOT! :)  I searched google for it's performance, and it rates higher than X700 while just a little lower than 6600GT :)  If i can get this overclocking to work.. then that'll be cool.. Though a little high on my price chart, i think i can afford it lol
February 6, 2006 11:44:55 PM

msi makes pretty good stuff from what i hear so i wouldnt worry to much.

if you really want to you can go out and pick up an ATI 9800pro i have one of those sitting in an old computer with specs very close to yours and that thing runs bf-2 on med-high (actualy yours is slightly better then mine)
February 7, 2006 12:22:36 AM

get the msi 6600gt. ocs so nice. chek out my sig 500/1000 -->>552/1220
February 7, 2006 12:31:00 AM

I'm glad I was able to help with my link to an MSI Geforce. I just hunted around to find a cheap 6600 that wasn't LE. :D 

here's a link to a cheaper 6600LEQ whatever that is :roll: if it's LE, I don't recommend buying it.

edited to remove link...
February 7, 2006 1:04:18 AM

hmm to bad the 9800pro has to be one of my favorite graphics cards ever
February 7, 2006 2:17:45 PM

The thing that ak47is1337 must understand is that to achieve the performance the OP desires, a larger budget must be put in place, the performance goals must be relaxed, or a refurbished or ebay card must be considered.
February 7, 2006 2:41:50 PM

no, no compromises must be made. the msi card with gddr3 that was up there should overclock to gt levels easily..
February 7, 2006 3:22:26 PM

I agree that the MSI card with DDR3 would be a good choice if it can be had for mid $80s. Any more than that gets you too close to the price of a 6600GT which overclocks quite nicely as well. I don't think that the vanilla 6600 will overclock to GT speeds as easily as you might think though. My experiences with overclocking the vanilla 6600 have been mediocre at best and with aftermarket cooling (none to GT speeds). Of course, all cards are different and varying results can be achieved. I suppose none of this matters anyway as it seems the OP has chosen to go with a refurb x700.
February 7, 2006 4:45:03 PM

This is my last response to this thread (I'm sure you'll all rejoice).

2pac_lives, you're taking a risk either way. There is a small possibility you could end up with a dud if you go with the refurb. However, relying on the possibility that you could overclock an entry level card to mid-level performance is a big gamble too.

Overclocking is tricky and it pushes the limits of your card as well as can damage it if you don't know what you're doing.

Good luck!!
February 7, 2006 6:03:22 PM

any dumbass can overclock with RivaTuner. also, 6600 is the same core as 6600gt, you are almost guaranteed to get close. its the same everything, just rated lower...and ddr1 ram (if you get the crappy 6600) just watch temps and you won't screw anything up.
February 7, 2006 6:18:06 PM

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any dumbass can overclock with RivaTuner. also, 6600 is the same core as 6600gt, you are almost guaranteed to get close. its the same everything, just rated lower...and ddr1 ram (if you get the crappy 6600) just watch temps and you won't screw anything up.


So the 6600 is the same as the 6600gt, you are "guaranteed to get close", but ddr1 with the "?rappy 6600". So is there a 6600 and a ?rappy 6600 version? If so I'm sure mine is the ?rappy one :) 
February 7, 2006 6:48:06 PM

the junk ass 6600 uses ddr1 memory which is HELLA slow. that msi posted above claims to have ddr3 memory, which should easily hit a gigahertz speed...but yes the core should be next to identical, as the 6800gt versus the 6800ultra.
February 7, 2006 7:00:56 PM

Quote:
This is my last response to this thread (I'm sure you'll all rejoice).

2pac_lives, you're taking a risk either way. There is a small possibility you could end up with a dud if you go with the refurb. However, relying on the possibility that you could overclock an entry level card to mid-level performance is a big gamble too.

Overclocking is tricky and it pushes the limits of your card as well as can damage it if you don't know what you're doing.

Good luck!!


Well, i'm most likely is going with this: http://www.logiccircle.com/xcart4016/product.php?produc...

But I don't really understand the overclocking thing. I've read one of the guides, but don't know what's the BEST way to overclock a NVidia GeForce card (ATI Tool i read was the best for Radeon). Also, if i were to overclock it, what should be the memory?

Edit: I found something on overclocking.. It performs faster than 6600GT?
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=949&page=11
a b U Graphics card
February 7, 2006 10:54:28 PM

Yes, even at MSI's "stock" speeds this GF6600 is better than a regular GF6600 as you can see by the review.

The core is 100mhz faster and the memory 100-150mhz faster than a vanilla GF6600, making this card faster than a plain X700 as well.

The overclocking results from Hexus tend to indicate that there is still additional overhead to be found using only software tools. The overclock that they achieved did result in a card that exceeded the GT's stock specs and performance.

From that this is easily a better card whether you overclock or not, only that you might see additional benifit and fun from doing some tweaking once you're comfortable.
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