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Hi,

Something has gone very wrong with my fs9 installation! There are
certain airports that I can't get to via the "go to airport" window,
and instead, I end up in the water *somewhere*, with the airport
field showing only this (always the same):

N89* 30.00* E0* 0.00* +100000

Here are some of the airports where this happens:

Anchorage International (PANC)
Honolulu International (PHNL)
Ketchikan International (PAKT)
Ocean Shores Municipal (W04)

I'm sure there are more like this, but I just haven't found them yet.
The peculiar thing is that if I can find a nearby airport to take off
from, I can fly to these airports, so they're not really missing.

If someone can help me sort this out without having to re-install
everything I would really appreciate it. Re-installing 20+ GB of
add-ons would be a major pain!

Thanks for any help you can offer!

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"Lawn Dart" <willkayakforfoodREMOVE_THIS@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> If someone can help me sort this out without having to re-install
> everything I would really appreciate it. Re-installing 20+ GB of
> add-ons would be a major pain!
>

Melissa, try deleting the FS9.cfg file. You'll find it in C:\Documents And
Settings\your name\Application Data\Microsoft\FS9. It may have become
corrupted and once you have deleted it FS9 will create another one at
start-up. You may then have to revisit some of your settings (display etc)
but it might well solve your main problem. HTH. :0))

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Hi Iain,

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:56:38 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

> Melissa, try deleting the FS9.cfg file.

Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't solve the problem. A new
fs9.cfg file was created, but the same problem still occurred.

I tried the same with the scenery.cfg file, and that didn't make any
difference either. Could the problem be with the basic afcad files?
Might there be something from the installation CDs that I could
simply re-install over the current installation?

If I must, I will completely un-install/re-install the whole thing,
but I'd really like to avoid that option if I can.

Thanks again!

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I had the same problem, last week. During that time, I had installed
Ranainside's FSM2.8 and the freeware seahurry.zip. After that, choosing
some airports would put me right on the intersection of the prime meridian
and the equator. Otherwise, a flight that was supposed to have started at
Kingston, Jamaica, actually started with a water crash about 300 miles South
of Louisiana.

The fix seems to be to go into the scenery library and uncheck just about
all the addon scenery. Then, after restarting, add the addons back on (fun
phraseology) one at a time. Inexplicably, my stuff all came back without
any trouble. YMMV

I'm not saying either of these fine addons is responsible, but I had no
problems before that time. Both addons have been removed from my system.

Best of luck.


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> Hi,
>
> Something has gone very wrong with my fs9 installation! There are
> certain airports that I can't get to via the "go to airport" window,
> and instead, I end up in the water *somewhere*, with the airport
> field showing only this (always the same):
>
> N89* 30.00* E0* 0.00* +100000
>
> Here are some of the airports where this happens:
>
> Anchorage International (PANC)
> Honolulu International (PHNL)
> Ketchikan International (PAKT)
> Ocean Shores Municipal (W04)
>
> I'm sure there are more like this, but I just haven't found them yet.
> The peculiar thing is that if I can find a nearby airport to take off
> from, I can fly to these airports, so they're not really missing.
>
> If someone can help me sort this out without having to re-install
> everything I would really appreciate it. Re-installing 20+ GB of
> add-ons would be a major pain!
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer!
>
> - --
> Melissa
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"Lawn Dart"
> If I must, I will completely un-install/re-install the whole thing,
> but I'd really like to avoid that option if I can.

Do not uninstall hastily!

Worst case, you could rename the FS9 folder and make a second install, then
use the new install's data files to copy into the old data folders one
folder at a time - The tough decision would be whether or not to use "don't
replace files" options. If you have the time I'd try "don't replace files"
first, then "replace" for the second time.

Hopefully, someone here can help you identify the missing or corrupt files.

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Hi Varmit, ;-)

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:28:54 GMT, you wrote:

> Hopefully, someone here can help you identify the missing or corrupt
> files.

I hope so too. In the meanwhile, I'll be putting a copy of my entire
fs9 program folder and the fs9 folder in "Documents and Settings"
onto my spare hard drive; just in case I decide to make a "clean"
installation of the sim.

My big question here is...what about any registry files? As far as I
know, my payware add-ons (planes and scenery) have registry entries
that go along with them, and I'm not sure about fs9 itself.

I can of course make a copy of my registry as well, just to be safe,
but if I just leave it as it is, will the un-installation of fs9 also
mess with the registry entries of the add-ons? Or just the registry
entries of fs9 itself?

Then, *if* I do take the route of a complete re-installation
(including the re-installation of the v9.1 patch), can I just copy
over folders like "aircraft", and "scenery" rather than re-installing
all of those things? I do have copies on CD and DVD of all my
installation files for add-on planes and scenery (including all the
FSGenesis mesh CDs), so I could, if I have to, just re-install
everything from scratch. Of course, that would be a multi-day
project! :)

I'll wait to see if anyone else comes up with some other ideas before
I take the most drastic measures, so at this point, I'm just
preparing myself for the worst case scenario.

Thanks for your help!

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Hi,

The way I reinstall:

1. Rename your current installation (or move it).

2. Install FS into the OLD name of the original folder in the original
location.

3. Try it out. If it doesn't solve the problem, delete it and rename
(or move) the original one back.

4. If it does solve it, move your addon planes and scenery into the new
installation. Reinstall any that require an installation program. Do
this one by one, to check for problems. Back up the new "virgin"
folders as you go!!

Hope this helps,

Lawn Dart wrote:
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> Hi Varmit, ;-)
>
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:28:54 GMT, you wrote:
>
>
>>Hopefully, someone here can help you identify the missing or corrupt
>>files.
>
>
> I hope so too. In the meanwhile, I'll be putting a copy of my entire
> fs9 program folder and the fs9 folder in "Documents and Settings"
> onto my spare hard drive; just in case I decide to make a "clean"
> installation of the sim.
>
> My big question here is...what about any registry files? As far as I
> know, my payware add-ons (planes and scenery) have registry entries
> that go along with them, and I'm not sure about fs9 itself.
>
> I can of course make a copy of my registry as well, just to be safe,
> but if I just leave it as it is, will the un-installation of fs9 also
> mess with the registry entries of the add-ons? Or just the registry
> entries of fs9 itself?
>
> Then, *if* I do take the route of a complete re-installation
> (including the re-installation of the v9.1 patch), can I just copy
> over folders like "aircraft", and "scenery" rather than re-installing
> all of those things? I do have copies on CD and DVD of all my
> installation files for add-on planes and scenery (including all the
> FSGenesis mesh CDs), so I could, if I have to, just re-install
> everything from scratch. Of course, that would be a multi-day
> project! :)
>
> I'll wait to see if anyone else comes up with some other ideas before
> I take the most drastic measures, so at this point, I'm just
> preparing myself for the worst case scenario.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
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Hi Tom,

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:14:23 -0700, you wrote:

> 4. If it does solve it, move your addon planes and scenery into the
> new installation. Reinstall any that require an installation
> program.

Most of my add-on planes are payware, and they do require
installation programs. Most of my terrain mesh is the same
(FSGenesis mesh), and other scenery as well (Orcas Island Georender,
etc.). If this is the case, it looks like I may as well start
entirely from scratch anyway.

I was hoping at the very least that I wouldn't have to re-install all
my add-on planes individually, as I thought I might be able to just
copy the entire "aircraft" folder from the backup into the new
installation. I've added several liveries and such to my add-on
planes, so re-installing each add-on plane will be quite an involved
process. Since I really doubt that the planes have anything to do
with the current corruption problem, is it really necessary for me to
install each one individually again?

> Do this one by one, to check for problems. Back up the new "virgin"
> folders as you go!!

Okay, I can do that.

Thanks for your help!

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"Lawn Dart" <willkayakforfoodREMOVE_THIS@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:56:38 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:
>
>> Melissa, try deleting the FS9.cfg file.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't solve the problem. A new
> fs9.cfg file was created, but the same problem still occurred.

> If I must, I will completely un-install/re-install the whole thing,
> but I'd really like to avoid that option if I can.

Hi Melissa,

Are any of the airports that you cannot get to add-on scenery? If so I was
thinking that you could go into the scenery library and disable them by
unchecking the entry and see if that helps. This would not involve
un-installing and would be quick to try.

I saw Dallas' suggestion which might work although I'm not sure whether the
necessary entries in the Windows registry would be correct. If you don't
have a great deal of add-on scenery you could try running the FS9 disks over
your present install. It would not over-write your add-on aircraft but
before doing it make a copy of the aircraft.cfg files for each so you can
easily re-instate them. However, I'm pretty sure it would over-write any
add-on scenery.

That's all I can think of for now! :0))

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Hi Iain,

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:42:10 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

> Are any of the airports that you cannot get to add-on scenery?

No, these are all default airports. The strange thing is that many
(most?) of the airports work just fine, but several are now not
working (at least not in the "go to airport" options). The "missing"
airports themselves do still exist in the sim though, and I can land
at them if I take off from a nearby airport that is working properly
via the "go to airport" options.

[snip]

> I saw Dallas' suggestion which might work although I'm not sure
> whether the necessary entries in the Windows registry would be
> correct. If you don't have a great deal of add-on scenery

Hee hee! Is about 20 GB of add-on mesh and scenery considered "not a
great deal"? ;-)

> you could try running the FS9 disks over your present install.

Hmmm, I have been thinking about that, but I'm worried about making
even more of a mess of things.

> It would not over-write your add-on aircraft but before doing it
> make a copy of the aircraft.cfg files for each so you can easily
> re-instate them.

If it would not overwrite my add-on aircraft, why would I have to
reinstate their .cfg files? I can save a copy of my entire
"aircraft" folder somewhere else before trying this, and since I'm
guessing that the aircraft folder doesn't have anything to do with
the present problem, I could probably just copy that folder back once
the "dirty re-install" is finished, right?

> However, I'm pretty sure it would over-write any add-on scenery.

By this do you mean all the add-on mesh, specific sceneries, stars
and moon, cloud and water enhancements, runway and taxiway
enhancements, etc.?

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Hi BeeFlow,

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:30:15 -0700, you wrote:

> I had the same problem, last week.

[snip]

> The fix seems to be to...

Oops! Too late! :)

I do thank you for your help, and if it ever happens again, I'll be
sure to remember this fix (I saved your message for future
reference).

At this point, I've already done the deed. After making a full backup
of my entire fs9 installation and all .cfg files and such, I
completely un-installed fs9, then re-installed it clean.

So far, I've managed to re-install all of my payware add-on planes,
runway/taxiway enhancements, water enhancements, enhanced stars and
moon, and now I have about 20 GB of mesh and other sceneries to
re-install. Eek! I've also performed a couple of the essential
fs9.cfg tweaks. I'm sure that in the next week or two, I'll keep
remembering other little tweaks and enhancements I need to deal with,
but at least I'm on the way back.

It was, after all, about time for a bit of clean-up, as there were
lots of little files here and there that were left over from other
bits of add-ons that I've since removed. This problem just gave me
the final excuse I needed to start over fresh.

Oh...and my "missing" airports are back! :)

Thanks again for your help!

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Hi Varmit,

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 04:42:37 GMT, you wrote:

>> At this point, I've already done the deed.

> You certainly are an impulsive little sprite aren't you?

I think I must be! :)

Of course, I'm paying for it now, with hours of scenery
re-installations to do! I've done it before and survived, so I guess
I'll survive this one. :)

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"Lawn Dart" <willkayakforfoodREMOVE_THIS@gmx.net> wrote in message
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>> It would not over-write your add-on aircraft but before doing it
>> make a copy of the aircraft.cfg files for each so you can easily
>> re-instate them.
>
> If it would not overwrite my add-on aircraft, why would I have to
> reinstate their .cfg files?

I should have been clearer (although I know it's too late and you've done
the deed!). It would not over-write any non MS a/craft or their cfg files.
But if you had MS a/craft with a lot of add-on textures, while it would
leave the texture folders in place it would over-write the cfg files and you
would have to re-insert the entries for the add-on textures.

>> However, I'm pretty sure it would over-write any add-on scenery.
>
> By this do you mean all the add-on mesh, specific sceneries, stars
> and moon, cloud and water enhancements, runway and taxiway
> enhancements, etc.?

Thinking again, if all your add-on scenery was in the add-on scenery folder
then it should be left untouched.

Anyway, this is history now but maybe helpful for any similar future event -
although I hope you don't have one!

Iain
 
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