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February 11, 2006 2:07:02 AM

Hi I'm looking for the best power supply that I can buy.
Preferably 500w-600w.
I know the best brands and whatnot, I just wanna know which models are the best?
I'm looking for Cool, Quiet, but most importantly high Efficiency % and has active PFC!!! Nice pre-sleeved/braided cables and modular is nice too but not a must.
I currently have my eye on http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16842&vpn=FX... and the Seasonic s12 600w!!!
Thanx!!!

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February 11, 2006 2:58:19 AM

I would recomend OCZ Modstream 520watt easy to install and no messy wires around your case use what you need also peak power is a steady 620watts.There are also Antec, Seasonic or Thermaltake Purepower 520watt. :lol: 
February 11, 2006 3:00:21 AM

OCZ modstream/powerstream doesn't have active PFC sadly :( 
american models anyways.
none of the antec models stand out to me, mediocre efficiency, cool n quiet tho :p 
any other suggestion?
anyone think the Fortron FX600-GLN is a good choice?
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February 11, 2006 9:53:14 AM

PC Power & Cooling or Zippy is probably the best, but the former is not that quiet. I don't know about the noise levels of Zippys. Seasonic may be the quietest major brand.

Why do you want active power factor correction?
February 11, 2006 12:39:52 PM

fortron
February 11, 2006 5:14:37 PM

becuz i'm poor and need to save on electricity :oops: 
na, just want the most efficient/cool/quiet psu i can get for like 150ish cad.
February 11, 2006 10:16:52 PM

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Why do you want active power factor correction?
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becuz i'm poor and need to save on electricity :oops: 
na, just want the most efficient/cool/quiet psu i can get for like 150ish cad.
Again, why do you want active power factor correction? It doesn't save electricity but only reduces peak AC amp draw, that is, reduce the volt * amp (VA) requirement. In North America, this is relevant to only 2 groups: a) industrial electric customers who are billed for reactive power as well as real power, and b) people who operate their computers from backup or UPS units, which must be able to meet the peak amp draw to the computer system. While PFC reduces peak amp draw, it doesn't change average amp draw; only higher efficiency or lower power consumption do.
February 12, 2006 12:46:31 AM

i was looking at jonno's pc and was wondering how it performs in games and everyday thing cause i'm getting something similar
February 12, 2006 1:22:41 AM

It is a good alrounder great with games i had many problems. I started off with Asus Nvidia 6200 but i think it was the bottleneck for the rest of the pc. So i changed to x1900xt so you can play games now with all that good lighting on and the res up. Still having problems with drivers.
good luck :lol: 
February 12, 2006 2:04:41 AM

Quote:
Hi I'm looking for the best power supply that I can buy.
Preferably 500w-600w.
I know the best brands and what not, I just wanna know which models are the best?
I'm looking for Cool, Quiet, but most importantly high Efficiency % and has active PFC!!! Nice pre-sleeved/braided cables and modular is nice too but not a must.
I currently have my eye on http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16842&vpn=FX... and the Seasonic s12 600w!!!
Thanx!!!


There is NO doubt either of:

ENERMAX EG701AX-VE SFMA

Liberty EL620AWT

I wiil ignore other manufacturers as they are NO match!
February 12, 2006 2:21:01 AM

I have two of these:

SILVERSTONE SST-ST60F

and I've used 4 other silverstones in various builds, they are rock solid. I'm no longer using enermax or Antec because of these!

The OCZ Modstreams are also great, I have many friends with those and they never have problems.
February 12, 2006 2:40:36 AM

why are silverstone's always last to be mentioned????
seasonic--cable lenght issues in some cases.
pc pwer and cooling--loud.
silverstone 600w--modular, cables reach, quiet, does all of the volt stuff.
February 12, 2006 2:42:04 AM

glad I'm not the only one! By the way, it is a BIG power supply, need ample depth for it. And it is VERY quiet.
February 12, 2006 4:01:37 AM

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I have two of these:

SILVERSTONE SST-ST60F

and I've used 4 other silverstones in various builds, they are rock solid. I'm no longer using enermax or Antec because of these!

The OCZ Modstreams are also great, I have many friends with those and they never have problems.


I had 6 Enermax, some failed but service was excellent.

I still like them even more.

Quote:
- smart fan function

The Smart Fan technology was developed by the folks at Enermax to protect your investment. After your system shutdown, the two ball earing fans continue to run for another 2 mins to cool off your power supply and components . It also has a heat sensor that will allow the fans to run for more then 2 mins if the temp is greater then 40c after the 2 min. This will greatly increase the life your power supply and components.


- dual +12V Rails
Independent 12V rails supply to MB/CPU and drives in order to provide stable and clean current to noise-sensitive devices, such as: CPU, add-on cards.Meet UL 240VA safety requirements. It also separate the motherboard rails and video card rails to ensure maximum power to your PCI Express video card.


They are also wisper silent.


Enermax
February 12, 2006 4:39:37 AM

I've still got 2 enermax's, I had one 350watt fail within a few months and I couldn't get them to rma it, but I would still recommend them. I used to use them for all of my customer builds and out of probably 100 builds with them, not one failed.
February 12, 2006 5:13:19 AM

michaelahess--this is slightly off thread topic (though after much reading decided Seasonic and Silverstone 600w get my vote)--a noob q: ive got all the parts sitting on the floor getting ready to deliver them to corner computer shop to build. silverstone TJ07 case arrives monday. power supply sits on bottom rear of this case. after lots of reading (my only expertise) decided the silverstone 600w PS best, BUT, then, after much praise of the seasonic S12s(especially on Silent PC Review), ordered a seasonic S12 from newegg, which i have. now, buyer's remorse. fearing the MB cable of the Seasonic that will attach to the a8n 32 deluxe MB northbridge (normal orientation MB in the TJ07), will fail to reach all the way up this big case. do u have any feel whether my concern on seasonic cable length is warranted, in which event ill exchange the seasonic for my original plan, the silverstone.
February 12, 2006 5:47:53 AM

Man, if you've got the parts put them together! I had my wife build one without any input from me and it actually worked, and she'd never seen the inside of one before (at least that she paid attention to!)

I'm not sure about the lenght of the seasonic cables, never had one before. That is one tall case though, good choice by the way, I know the silverstone would reach, and most enermax's too, but someone else might be able to chime in on the seasonic length. At the very worst, that corner computer shop should have an atx extension you could get for a few bucks.

That case does have a split adapter for 2 PS's, that might add enough additional length if the cord is only slightly short.
February 12, 2006 6:08:40 AM

lol. txs. i want mine built before the year 2020. i need to borrow ur wife :) 
February 12, 2006 6:24:50 AM

Yeah, I suppose it was a fluke, she's probably absorbed so much of my talking about this stuff that she subconciously knew what to do :) 
February 12, 2006 7:05:11 AM

Quote:
Quote:
- smart fan function

The Smart Fan technology was developed by the folks at Enermax to protect your investment. After your system shutdown, the two ball earing fans continue to run for another 2 mins to cool off your power supply and components . It also has a heat sensor that will allow the fans to run for more then 2 mins if the temp is greater then 40c after the 2 min. This will greatly increase the life your power supply and components.


- dual +12V Rails
Independent 12V rails supply to MB/CPU and drives in order to provide stable and clean current to noise-sensitive devices, such as: CPU, add-on cards.Meet UL 240VA safety requirements. It also separate the motherboard rails and video card rails to ensure maximum power to your PCI Express video card.


They are also wisper silent.


Enermax

does this Enermax model have the smart function fan???
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd...
February 12, 2006 7:11:01 PM

Quote:
Hi I'm looking for the best power supply that I can buy.
Preferably 500w-600w.
I know the best brands and what not, I just wanna know which models are the best?
I'm looking for Cool, Quiet, but most importantly high Efficiency % and has active PFC!!! Nice pre-sleeved/braided cables and modular is nice too but not a must.
I currently have my eye on http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16842&vpn=FX... and the Seasonic s12 600w!!!
Thanx!!!


There is NO doubt either of:

ENERMAX EG701AX-VE SFMA

Liberty EL620AWT

I wiil ignore other manufacturers as they are NO match!

I agree, I have the Enermax Liberty 620W. It's a beast when it comes to power and amp and super quiet. Underload the 120mm fan in it never gets above 900rpm and if you put your hand behind it then it's still cool air! My chipset fan is the loudest fan in my computer!

Plus it's modular, so that's a big bonus, this is my first modular and after it I'll never go back. So much easier to work with, you can hook up the drives ends first then route it back to the PSU afterwards, makes it a lot easier to hook up and route cables
February 13, 2006 12:53:43 AM

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PC Power & Cooling or Zippy is probably the best, but the former is not that quiet. I don't know about the noise levels of Zippys. Seasonic may be the quietest major brand.

Why do you want active power factor correction?


i agree with with this one... zippy is noise
February 13, 2006 2:47:17 AM

Quote:
There is NO doubt either of:

ENERMAX EG701AX-VE SFMA

Liberty EL620AWT

I wiil ignore other manufacturers as they are NO match!


The EG701 600watt costs $145 and has 2 - 12v rails of 18amp.

The Antec TPII 550watt costs $89 and has 2 - 12v rails of 19amp, and is very quiet yet $50 less.

If I am spending that much for a PSU, I would look at getting the Epsilon 600watt with 4 - 15amp 12v rails and $139.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Either way, that Enermax looks overpriced, and you get overpromised.
I have better things to do with my money than spend it unwisely.
February 13, 2006 3:07:10 AM

you're overlooking the modular aspect of the enermax models.
that's where the premium cost comes from, plus it's a very well built PSU.
modular supplies tend to have less stable rails then non-modular, but the enermax is rock solid.
but of course if ur looking for bang for da buck, i'd agree with the FSP or Antec.
Enermax is not a bad choice at all tho IMHO
February 13, 2006 3:11:09 AM

It may be well built and all, but is short in the tooth on pure power output compared to the Antec or the Fortron, and by a good margin.
It seems to be specwise more of a 520watt PSU than a 600watt judging by the amp output.
February 13, 2006 10:53:07 AM

I use them too, I have two in my system now, I need two for this computer. Running for 2 years now and still holding great power
February 13, 2006 11:12:41 AM

It's usually the one with a $150-$200 price tag with an active (PFC) power factor controller. I have an Aspire and its quite, cool and looks good as well. :) 
February 13, 2006 12:26:57 PM

Quote:
There is NO doubt either of:

ENERMAX EG701AX-VE SFMA

Liberty EL620AWT

I wiil ignore other manufacturers as they are NO match!


The EG701 600watt costs $145 and has 2 - 12v rails of 18amp.

The Antec TPII 550watt costs $89 and has 2 - 12v rails of 19amp, and is very quiet yet $50 less.

If I am spending that much for a PSU, I would look at getting the Epsilon 600watt with 4 - 15amp 12v rails and $139.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Either way, that Enermax looks overpriced, and you get overpromised.
I have better things to do with my money than spend it unwisely.

Actually you troll !
Once a while silence is betetter than noise.

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I have better things to do with my money than spend it unwisely.


Let's be honest, you just don't have money and you are trying to convince yourself you spend it, you have time and time is not always money.
Rather than not spending money wisely, learn how make money wisely and faster than you can spent them.

I would pay U$ 150 for ENERMAX and I know why, but I would not $ 89.00 ANTEC, and I also know why!
Time IS money! I am not buying price, I am buying quality of my choice, and I can afford it.

Actualy buying ENERMAX at say U$ 145.00 you are paying less than buying $89 Antec TPII 550 watt, and if you need that someone will draw you a picture hire a nerd.

You shall not refer to numbers only, as there are creative ways manufacturers advertise them.

Sumarizing it as I want always spend money wisely, I am not buying Intel any longer!

Fools are buying GOLD, it is FOOLS GOLD!
February 13, 2006 2:05:08 PM

I use a Fortron 600w Epsilon and I love the thing to death. Its blue (big plus lol), its a beast (600w, though i wanted the 700w), it has more then enough cables,and its silent as silent can get. My 2 80mm case fans put out more noise then my PSU. Its honeycomb design is fairly impressive and it passed THG's stress test.

I have nothing against enermax, seasonic or PC cooling PSU's. I honestly considered them, but the Fortron ended up being the best buy for me and I don't regret it at all. It was a simple installation and in my Koolance Pc3-720 case, all cables reached as far as I needed them to, and more. You have several options in the $150 range, which will boil down to any brand preference or feature prefrences (such as modular cables). I don't like modular cables mainly because i know I would lose them if I took them out, and if I didn't take them out I would feel bad about paying for that feature lol.

Go Fortron, they rock :) 
February 13, 2006 2:25:46 PM

ENERMAX, PC POWER AND COOLING AND SEASONIC. are some pretty good brands start you serch there.

i have an enermax liberty 620W I LOVE IT.
February 13, 2006 3:47:47 PM

Not exactly a troll nor can not afford it... :cry: 
Here is my lowly humble rig... :wink:
Lian Li PC-60plus Black Aluminum Case (w/TR-3B Black Thermometer/Fan Controller 3.5” bay)
Opteron 175 (2x 2.44 GHz, 2MB cache, Socket 939, .09 micron, E6 stepping, OSA175DAA6CD)
ThermalTake BigWaterSE 12cm liquid cooling system complete kit
Asus A8R-MVP Motherboard (ATI Radeon Xpress 200 CrossFire, socket 939, SATA2)
HiS X1800XT Graphics Card (625 MHz/700 MHz OC core/1500 Mhz/1600 MHz OC mem, Dual DL-DVI VIVO 512 MB PCIe)
ATI TV Theater 550 PRO Tuner (PCI TV and FM Tuner)
4x 512MB Corsair Micro Xpert DDR RAM (2-2-2-7-2T (spd 2-2-2-5-1T) TwinXP 1024-3200XL)
2x 74gig Western Digital Raptor Hard Drives RAID-0 (WD740GD RAID0 150gig Boot Drive)
2x 250gig Western Digital Caviar SE16 Hard Drives (WD2500KS storage and data)
Plextor 716AL Black 16x DVD/CD Burner (IDE slot loading type)
Antec TP-II 550 Power Supply (550 Watt ATX12V v2.0 PSU)
Dell 2405FPW 24-inch LCD Monitor (UltraSharp Wide Aspect Flat Panel Display)
Logitech G-15 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech Cordless Optical TrackMan
Case Fans (SilenX 120mm intake, Adda 120mm exhaust blower, SilenX 92mm exhaust and SilenX 80mm Fan)
February 13, 2006 4:53:53 PM

PC Power and Cooling is consider the best PSU manufacturer but their product is expensive.
February 14, 2006 12:09:47 AM

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PC Power and Cooling is consider the best PSU manufacturer but their product is expensive.


There's the understatement of the year..... lol
February 15, 2006 12:57:03 AM

Ignore him rich, If you read any of his other posts, you'd know he's an idiot. Him calling you a troll immediately is proof of that.

I have an Antec HeoHE 550W that I love. I know it has some compatability issues with some boards, and I am not posting it as the best PSU, cause its not, but I love it in my rig. $150, True 550W, 3-12V rails, modular cables, Active PFC, and virtually silent. Can't beat it for my needs.

Nice Rig by the way.
February 15, 2006 1:15:35 AM

Thanks, it is the fastest one I have had.
I do plan on swapping the mobo for the 939 pin 580 boards when they come out in a month or two or three or whatever....
February 15, 2006 1:42:24 AM

The motherboard is the only thing I would avoid, but thats because Asus boards don't run well on my PSU (du to lower amperages on the 5.5 and 3v rails, and Asus requiring higher than most modern boards). Though I am really considering an Asrock (Asus owned) Dual SATA-2 since I still have AGP.
February 15, 2006 1:43:43 AM

anything from enermax ocz and coolermaster
February 16, 2006 1:09:43 AM

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anything from enermax ocz and coolermaster
They're all far more than adequate, but none rank any among the very best, especially Coolermaster, made by Hipro or AC Bel.
February 16, 2006 1:13:00 AM

Quote:
anything from enermax ocz and coolermaster
They're all far more than adequate, but none rank any among the very best, especially Coolermaster, made by Hipro or AC Bel.
February 18, 2006 2:08:52 AM

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OCZ modstream/powerstream doesn't have active PFC sadly :( 
american models anyways.
none of the antec models stand out to me, mediocre efficiency, cool n quiet tho :p 
any other suggestion?
anyone think the Fortron FX600-GLN is a good choice?


Doing somework and i found out all OCZ 520 Modstream have active PFC .
February 22, 2006 12:45:03 AM

Quote:
Not exactly a troll nor can not afford it... :cry: 
Here is my lowly humble rig... :wink:
Lian Li PC-60plus Black Aluminum Case (w/TR-3B Black Thermometer/Fan Controller 3.5” bay)
Opteron 175 (2x 2.44 GHz, 2MB cache, Socket 939, .09 micron, E6 stepping, OSA175DAA6CD)
ThermalTake BigWaterSE 12cm liquid cooling system complete kit
Asus A8R-MVP Motherboard (ATI Radeon Xpress 200 CrossFire, socket 939, SATA2)
HiS X1800XT Graphics Card (625 MHz/700 MHz OC core/1500 Mhz/1600 MHz OC mem, Dual DL-DVI VIVO 512 MB PCIe)
ATI TV Theater 550 PRO Tuner (PCI TV and FM Tuner)
4x 512MB Corsair Micro Xpert DDR RAM (2-2-2-7-2T (spd 2-2-2-5-1T) TwinXP 1024-3200XL)
2x 74gig Western Digital Raptor Hard Drives RAID-0 (WD740GD RAID0 150gig Boot Drive)
2x 250gig Western Digital Caviar SE16 Hard Drives (WD2500KS storage and data)
Plextor 716AL Black 16x DVD/CD Burner (IDE slot loading type)
Antec TP-II 550 Power Supply (550 Watt ATX12V v2.0 PSU)
Dell 2405FPW 24-inch LCD Monitor (UltraSharp Wide Aspect Flat Panel Display)
Logitech G-15 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech Cordless Optical TrackMan
Case Fans (SilenX 120mm intake, Adda 120mm exhaust blower, SilenX 92mm exhaust and SilenX 80mm Fan)


and you are trying to save an extra 50 U$?

I have now few rigs ...

Lian Li PC-602 Aluminum Case w/ removeable tray
ENERMAX EG701AX-VE SFMA 600 W
Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Toledo (2x 2.01 GHz, 512MB cache, Socket 939, .09 micron, JH-E6 stepping, )
Asus A8N SLI Premium s939
ASUS AX-700-X ATI Radeon PCI Xpress
2x 512MB OCZ DDR 400 PC 3200 Dual Channel 2-2-2-5-1T-7-16 OCZ4001024ELDCGE-K
2 x 250 GB Hitachi SATA 10 3.0 GB/sec - Boot Drive (via BIOS sel.)
2 x 160 GB Hitachi SATA I 1.5 GB/sec - Boot Drive
1 x 160 GB Seagate SATA I 1.5 GB/sec on Sil 3114
1 x 60 GB Maxtor ATA 133 PATA (old stock)
2 external SATA ports
Plextor PX 740 AL Black DVD/CD Burner
Lite On LDW 411S
Lite On Combo LTC - 48161H
Windows XP PRO
Windows 200 PRO
Linux Red Hat 9.0
Knoppix 4.02
BartPE .. whatever
Logitech DiNoVo desktop laser bluetooth Keyboard / Pad / Mouse
ZIPPY EL-715
View Sonic 19"
PROXIM AP-4000 Access Point - dual radio
Proxim PCI 802.11 a/b/g/ (Atheros)
HP LaserJet 4050TN
HP photosmart 9860 Desk Jet
Linksys BEFSR41
few laptops IBM / HP

Lian LI PC 602
Asus SK8N
ENERMAX 485 W
AMD FX-51
2x 512 Corsair PC 3200 DDR 400 REGISTERED TwinX
ATi Radeon 9600 PRO
Plextor PX - 708A
2 x Plextor Premium

an old modified DELL T450 XPS (imagine only now smoking)

and more .. that is more than enuff .... on this auction
February 27, 2006 2:35:20 PM

I say Seasonic..... but thats just cause i own one :) 
!