what is the FSB for sempron socket A 3300

[BruceMyers48]

I am having a hard time finding specs on the Sempron scoket A 3300. The biostar m7ncg 400 bios defaults it at 200. I set it back to 166 and when booting it reads 1833mhz. I really can't find any documentation that tells me if 1833 is correct. When I set it to 200 it boots up as Semprom 3300+. I believe that might be correct. Can Anyone help here? Thanks Bruce

 

[dvdpiddy]

3300 dont u mean 3000 the socket a semprons did'nt go above 3000 that and topped out at 2.0 ghz 512k cache and the fsb was 333

 

[BruceMyers48]

Yes it is a Sempron socket A 3300+ Bought from tiger direct. When I leave the default value that the bios comes with " Front bus speed 200MHZ" It is very responsive and with no ill problems. I just can't find ant tables to verify that the default value that the biostal bios comes up with is correct. Bruce

 

[dvdpiddy]

i think your lying ok i cant find it on pricewatch nor tigerdirect.

 

[weilin]

I believe you, ive seen that chip before, The 3300 was supposed to run at 2.2ghz at 200mhz fsb. Its fine. Those semprons are really AThlon xp 3200+s repackaged with half l2 disabled. When AMD switched the name, some unsold XPs had to be "disposed of" so they just give them the name 3300. They are no longer produced so its a rather rare chip.

 

[FlyGuy]

I don't know what the default specs are supposed to be but 1833Mhz would give you a ~166 Mhz FSB (11x166) @ DDR333. If the sucker boots at 200Mhz and is stable leave it at that! That would give you 2200Mhz @ DDR400.

You might be able to get some info from CPU-Z. I believe it reads the CPU designation and reports the proper equivalent no matter the speed (i.e., if it's a 3000+ with a 3000000Mhz FSB it would still be a 3000+).

http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php

 

[dvdpiddy]

thank you wellin i never thought amd did that with the old xp 3200(and now i know and knowing is half the battle really whats the other half beating the shit out of those commie bastards! thanks G.I. JOE go JOE!)

 

[losmeme]

I see those items on Tiger Direct. They certainly seem to be a good deal on the surface. They would be a good deal if there was ever any hope of you actually receiving the rebates attached to them.

There is one thing constant about Tiger Direct: You absolutely, positively will NEVER receive ANY rebate advertised by them.

If you are shopping Tiger, you are getting ripped off.

Go to NewEgg or ZipZoomFly. Much better pricing, and they actually mail their rebates out!

 

[dvdpiddy]

I see those items on Tiger Direct. They certainly seem to be a good deal on the surface. They would be a good deal if there was ever any hope of you actually receiving the rebates attached to them.

There is one thing constant about Tiger Direct: You absolutely, positively will NEVER receive ANY rebate advertised by them.

If you are shopping Tiger, you are getting ripped off.

Go to NewEgg or ZipZoomFly. Much better pricing, and they actually mail their rebates out!

amen to that brother tiger direct ripped me off twice bought some ram for a hundred was sent in the mail in rebate was supposed to get 50 back guaess what it never ever came refunded the ram got my money back went to newegg got corsair value select for 85$ happy as can be

 

[mdd1963]

"When I set it to 200 it boots up as Semprom 3300+."

Ergo, it is correct...uses 200 MHz as base clock freq...

 

[mdd1963]

"Its fine. Those semprons are really AThlon xp 3200+s repackaged with half l2 disabled. "

Yes, the socket A Semprons are indeed merely XP's renamed with less cache...

 

[BruceMyers48]

They are good deals. I have received my rebates all three. I called AMD and they did verify that these are indeed athlon cpu's. Renamed sempron.He told me that 200 fbs in the bios was right. I was amazed at the respond time in windows for a Sempron. Thanks Tiger. I got the M7NCG 400 mobo, 3300 sempron. heatsink and fan, case with 400 watt PS for 99.00 after rebates which I have received. Bruce

 

[TrentDavey]

I bought this combo too. I bought PC3200 400MHz memory and forced the options on the motherboard to it but it was very flaky - freezing at different times. I was confused by the specs which some places says it supports up to 400MHz DDR memory but other places says 333MHz. On the DDR333 setting, it has not frozen once. In case you are wondering what a maximum temperature for your cpu is, the AMD site quotes 69 degrees C. Did your motherboard have a CD-in header? Mine did not.

 

[BruceMyers48]

Yes mine had a cd in header. You are right, when I had the fbs set to 200 in the setup It would reboot half way through formatting the D partition on my drive. It did this two times. When I set the fsb to 166 I had no such problems. It is a fairly fast system with the 3300 cpu. Nothing compared to my 3800 dual core Amd on the K8n nmeo4 plat. board by MSI. Bruce

 

[TrentDavey]

At 200Mhz base mine runs fine and the WarpSpeeder egg-thingy says the processor is runnnig at just under 2200Mhz - it was my forcing the memory to DDR400 that was the problem. I was just at the Biostar site (http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=M7NCG%20400) and noticed they have a BIOS update NCG1221.BF4 - "Added support for Sempron 3300+ processor. Without Biostar splash screen." Anyone tried this?

 

[BruceMyers48]

I did the bios flash and instead of the bios default at 200 when I open the bios up it was defaulted to 100fsb. Still I could not complete a format it would reboot half way through. Bruce

 

[NSX]

I bought the same thing from TigerDirect.

At the beginning I had 512MB DDR333 which could only boost with 166MHZ to obtain 1.8Ghz. Then I bought 512MB DDR400 with 2.5CAS and still couldnt boost to 200MHZ to obtain a stable Sempro3300+ config. The OS just hang or wouldnt run the XP CD/format drive all the way.

Have someone opened a support help through Biostar? I will do that later today after work. I am sure it has the latest Bios but will find out later.

If someone can make it work with 200MHZ, please let me know how-to.

Thanks.

 

[BruceMyers48]

I believe I flashed with the latest bios and did nothing to make the system more stable at 200 fsb. Bruce

 

[TrentDavey]

Your BIOS version number will come up with the starting screens. If it goes by too quick, delesect Quck Boot in the bios and restart. (I think there's an elegant key press that freezes the screen but can't remember what it is). The BIOS version I had (as shipped) had the most recent NGC1221 BF (or similar). I don't know what to tell you. At one point I trashed the BIOS and had to load the defaults - turn off - jumper the correct contacts - wait 15 sec - unjumper - restart (see the manual). I have one stick of 1 Gb 400Mhz DDR from Kingston in slot 1.

 

[NSX]

I have checked it had the latest bios compare to www.biostar-usa.com. I have also reflashed with the one from that site just in case the one that came with mine is bad.. still no luck. The bios is NCG1221.BF4 with 12/21/2005 date.

Thing I tried today

FBS = 200, DDR=400.. just hang
FBS = 200, DDR=333.. It loads XP but will hang after loading notepad or calculator.
FBS 166, DDR=333, it works great but at 1.8Ghz

I have submitted a form to biostar tech support but dont know when they will get back to me.

The 512MB PC3200 is from Buffalo a CAS 2.5

Tomorrow I am going to the place where I got the RAM and tryout with a Kingston 512MB PC3200 with a CAS 3.. and see if that will make a difference..

Tigerdirect sux in terms of getting any tech support.. they just referred me to Biostar

Anyway, if I have any luck, will post in here. Thx.

 

[BruceMyers48]

Keep me informed. Bruce

 

[NSX]

I have tried with Kingston PC3200 CAS3:

FSB=200MHZ, DDR400 (wont boot at all)
FSB=200MHZ, DDR333 (Will boot but will restart intermittently shortly after a while)

I am using FX5200 rather the onboard Video.. Will try later taking out the AGP card and see if more stable or not.

I read somewhere that you need to have 2 stick of RAM to make it work.. not sure if that is true or not

Anyone know what this sempron 3300+ socketA requires PC2700 (DDR333) or PC3200 (DDR400) ?

Please advice.

 

[NSX]

I have removed the FX5200 better but crash somewhere.
The onboard nforce2 MX video sux..cant deal some of the kid's game. So tomorrow will have to plug the FX5200 card back to it. I will use the PC2700 or DDR333 and set the FSB=166MHZ.. so the total output will be 1.8Ghz rather 2.1Ghz...

I give up.. this is a waste of time with this board.. still waiting Biostar to get back to me about this issue.

Will see later on.

Oh by the way, this board not worth to have 2 sticks of RAM.. 1-512MB is good enough for a little kid PC.

Thanks.

 

[BruceMyers48]

That is what I did. I quit wasting time and bumped it back to 166 and it seems to work fine. You won't to much difference between 1.8 and 2.1 that you can tell. The only thing that I did notice on 200fbs was it seemed to be to fast. When I first booted into windows it would seem to move before you told it to. Now that is scary. Bruce

 

[NSX]

Yes 1.8Ghz and 2.1Ghz is not much or you wont be able to tell (200MHZ maybe a bit faster).

The principal in here is that sempron3300+ should work as advertised.. unless Tigerdirect and whatever this custom AMD cpu that is not supported by AMD is a fake one.

Well I will leave as is to run at 1.8Ghz and if I hear anything from Biostar (crossing finger)... will let you know.

But I will have to plug in the AGP video card back to the board.. so many kid's game that use rendering does not work with the onboard video.. also I have tried to set 128MB video onboard.. seems to work alright with everyday online browsing but not for 3d stuffs.

Stay tuned or unless someone out there have a clue