Skype caps the number of conference callers to 5 on AMD based systems, but allows up to 10 on intel based systems. It's a marketing deal with Intel.
I'm usually the first one to say "it's a private company, they can do whatever they want." But in this particular instance it's a really, really bad decision. They're cutting off their own noses. No one is going to buy an frigin intel based system simply because it supports up to 10 callers on skype.
Companies like skype are a dime a dozen, even if eBay owns them. If AMD users can't get what they want from Skype, they'll go elsewhere. Skype can count that in their loss column.
The only person(s) this is bad for is the consumer.
You know, I was about 3 hrs from downloading it. Jakes_Barnes asked me to download it so we can chit chat. Now I don't think I will.
When they implement the change it'll certainly affect how people in these forums communicate. Everyone's often on Skype apparently... if the host is using AMD, then everyone's screwed.
I totally agree with you man. I just don't agree with the thought of Hey, use our products and we'll give you more! Just another stupid idea from Intels wonderful marketing dept.
Skype is teh gay. Last thing you want to do as a corporation is piss off a bunch of fanboys of any side...
This is a pretty dumb move on the part of Intel as well, this makes AMD's lawsuit look all the more legimate (which I think does actually have some truth to it).
Anyway, screw Skype. I use Teamspeak over that anyday
FFS what c*nts. That pisses me off and in terms of business it strikes me as being very unprofesional. In my eyes the fact that they need to do shit like this only makes me think that they are worried as intel is getting raped, especially at dual core.
I also remember reading about how intel were getting annoyed at a PC shop. Their ratio of intel to amd was getting less one-sided and so intel threatened to pull out and not sell this shop any intel processors unless it cut the amount of AMD processors to be only 20% of all PCs sold. The annoying thing is they have the power to do this, and the guys business would suffer. I hope AMD sues their asses.
The thing is Intel has been useing marketing plans like this for years going back to the beginning of pentium 4 they new back then that there p3 was only just faster then AMD and they had new tec in p4 so useing a biger engin and the so called new and better tecnolegy brought in more sales mhz for mhz AMD was more aficiant and faster
and they did atack the shops even here in Australia a shop i go to was once amd for overclockers even though back then there were overheating problems but still people bought the products
now they are intel orientated in sales and aparently the money is more with buisness pacedge deals
look at apple they are going Intel
Dell has always been Intel
It is the way of big buisness its a cut throat game
envidia is the same they buy up componeys for there tecnolegy so they can sprout a better product
Arigonaly the leaders in graphics were 3dfx ATI and something -labs
and now envidia are the biggest all through marceting and buy ups
I am not an AMD or ATI freek i reserch the best and then i purchace
i have owned several intel as well as countless envida products and yes i am going to try out the cross fire system only on a hoby overclocking point of view
All i can say is keep the faith and dont sercome to there antics buy for what you want not for what they want
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Arigonaly the leaders in graphics were 3dfx ATI and something -labs
I hate to break it to you, but ATI was never the leader of anything until the Radeon came out, even then it took them forever to make that successful (9700 was probably their "breakout" card). And that was after nVidia bought 3dfx. The leaders were originally 3dfx, nVidia, and 3DLabs; in order. ATI's Rage cards were the laughing stock of 3D gaming.
Here's some benchmarks of the first ATI Radeon. As you can see nVidia owned the scene back then.
Just look at the bigger picture :
1) There are very few people that go over 5 person limits
2) Persons doing so, use Team Speak or other dedicated software
3) Skype will get hacked (Games which are better protected do)
4) In Love & War (and now business) everything is allowed.
This could start a problematic tendency, Example :
IDSoftware & Intel deal : No FPS limit for Intel on Quake5, 40 FPS for AMD
For this reason i really hope the lawsuit goes through and Skype/Intel get fined.
The "Only Intel CPU are powerfull enough" is a lie.
And No unbiased/unbought judge/jury will ever fall for it.
I don't know much about this stuff. I have both intel and amd, but I just don't like the fact that Intel is trying to kick out all competition especially AMD. Does Intel feel threatened with AMD or they can just do what they want and bully other company because they're big and all? Personally, I feel that intel is monopolizing, but like I said don't much about this issue. I just hope this can be resolve and both side could run their company in peace.
Yeah, noticed that.... so now we have the advantage of only having to put up with five people talking at once instead of ten people, and to add insult to injury, lower CPU overheads aswell ?
- Well done AMD, you've done absolutely nothing and it worked out fine for you. - (Note: Around half my systems are Intel - Not a fanboy)
But seriously now, does anyone need a 10 way conversation that TeamSpeak or something else can't just do ?, and do it regardless of the CPU under the hood aswell.
I don't really think that "Skype" is all that big a deal anyways. There are more Internet conferencing programs out there that alot of MMORPG players use.
I currently use Teamspeak (for some games), Ventrilo for others... etc..
If Skype wants to limit itself like that no one will use it, why? Because the 15 year olds parents don't build them P4 Extreme edition machines, instead they get E-machines computers and most likely the lower end and they plop a vid card in it.
In which case ALOT of those are AMD based.
My two cents.
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