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More info?)
Now, really, how can I answer that? It depends on what your needs are.
The principal advantage to pigment inks is they do not fade as rapidly
(they do fade, but usually take much longer) and they tend to be
waterproof even on plain paper. They are more dense (opaque) and they
cost more. They will tend to clog more easily.
Each pigment ink formula will have differing characteristics and fade
resistance, just like dye inks.
Art
Te wrote:
> Great information. Thanks.
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> Are the pigmented inks worth "upgrading" to from dye inks? in other words,
> is it worth it?
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> "Arthur Entlich" <artistic@telus.net> wrote in message
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>>One of the main features of piezo head design is how forgiving they are
>>with ink formulations.
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>>Thermal heads require the ink boils at a certain temperature and
>>maintains a certain viscosity during the printing process.
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>>Piezo technology is more forgiving because the ink is mechanically
>>propelled without heating, and the ink nozzles can be considerably
>>larger then the ink droplet, using the frequency the piezo element is
>>activated to determine how much ink is released.
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>>Although I don't suggest trying to run ketchup and mustard through them,
>>as long as the ink is within certain tolerances and of a small enough
>>particle size, it may well work. Piezo heads are being used for
>>everything from dye sublimation inks, to solvent inks, to oil based
>>inks, to conductive inks, to plastics, to food dyes, etc, etc.
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>>So, as to your question, yes, there are dozens of 3rd party ink
>>formulations that work with Epson printers. SOme work better than
>>others. Pigmented inks are more abrasive than dye inks, because
>>pigmented inks are made up of actual particles of colorant kept in
>>suspension in the carrier agent. Dyes are molecular and are literally
>>dissolved into the carrier. Over time, therefore, pigmented inks do
>>wear the heads more than dye inks. For the average piezo inkhead
>>printer, it is not too significant an issue.
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>>Although I have not looked around, I suspect there are both pigmented
>>inks being should 3rd party for the R200, and CISs. My only concern is
>>the CIS is usually costly enough to make it worthwhile to consider if
>>buying a more robust printer may be worthwhile with a costly investment
>>of a CIS and bulk inks. It is not that the R200 will product poor
>>prints, because it doesn't, but it is designed as an economy printer,
>>and it's cost reflects that. Most people using a CIS print great sums
>>of prints in a short period and a printer with a higher duty cycle may
>>be more reliable.
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>>Art
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>>Art
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>>Te wrote:
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>>>I'm new the EPSON... I've been a looong time HP user. I recently got an
>>>Epson R200 because I wanted to print onto DVDRs. I'm in the market for
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>>>continuous ink system for my R200 now... and one of the questions I had
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>>>can I use Pigmented inks in a CIS or by refilling the carts with
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>>>inks?
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>>>As I understand it, pigmented inks give you better quality prints, truer
>>>colors and are much longer lasting. Plus as I understand it, the R200
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>>>DYE inks not Pigmented like the R800. The epson rep told me the heads
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>>>the R800 and R200/R300 (et al) are all the same print head? So that
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>>>to me like I can use pigmented inks... But I know the experts here will
>>>chime in
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>>>THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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