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AMD TO LAUNCH 5000+ AND FX 62 AT COMPUTEX

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February 15, 2006 5:48:56 PM

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It seems that both 5000+ and FX62 come as socket AM 2 only things. We suspect that we are talking about a speed update of both cores and we expect that the 5000+ could end up at 2.6GHz while the FX 62 will rock at 2.8 GHz


Well done AMD.

Read here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29718
February 15, 2006 5:52:09 PM

:roll: I will reserve gratitude after it is done, not before.
February 15, 2006 11:02:53 PM

the 5000 just sounds so good, the number i mean, 62 is ok, BUT the best sounding one in my opinion would be fx-99 or fx-1000 pronouced one thousand. I don't know why i notice these types of things. lol
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February 15, 2006 11:25:31 PM

is that the multiplier or the hypertransport or something.
February 15, 2006 11:41:01 PM

Agreed.
February 15, 2006 11:41:42 PM

8O can't wait to see those on market :twisted:
February 15, 2006 11:57:02 PM

talking in general it seems that AMD's delay in upgrading from 939 platform made some people paranoid. Some fanboys enjoy themselves living in the future making love to AMD sweethearts!

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February 16, 2006 12:03:37 AM

hey 9-inch are you really bullshitter in disguise? cause you showed up when he left cause of his name and you are as helpful as him retreiving links for us and such thanks alot 9 inch or should i say bullshitter!
February 16, 2006 12:26:37 AM

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hey 9-inch are you really bullshitter in disguise? cause you showed up when he left cause of his name and you are as helpful as him retreiving links for us and such thanks alot 9 inch or should i say bullshitter!


No I'm not, but I'm trying to keep his legacy. :wink:

While Bullshitter was a respectable member in this forum, I really admired him for his objective criticism. It was a pitty that he was savagely banned from here with no reason at all.

I really don't think that guy should have being banned just for sake of his nick name. I'll better keep my mouth close before they ban me also. :oops:  )

Anyhow, that's not my story. 8)
February 16, 2006 1:20:52 AM

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hey 9-inch are you really bullshitter in disguise? cause you showed up when he left cause of his name and you are as helpful as him retreiving links for us and such thanks alot 9 inch or should i say bullshitter!


No I'm not, but I'm trying to keep his legacy. :wink:

While Bullshitter was a respectable member in this forum, I really admired him for his objective criticism. It was a pitty that he was savagely banned from here with no reason at all.

I really don't think that guy should have being banned just for sake of his nick name. I'll better keep my mouth close before they ban me also. :oops:  )

Anyhow, that's not my story. 8) ok 9 inch<cough bull shitter <cough> ok man i belive you i dont know what happened with him but damn he was like golden retreiver got us what we wanted. ok man btw where do you live east coast or westcoast and i added you to my buddy list ok dude.
February 16, 2006 6:21:04 AM

"This will come as a disappointment to some, for according to the current plans the FX60 will remain the fastest FX for socket 939. Athlon 4800+ will be the fastest 939 dual core CPU around. You should be able to grab those AM2 CPUs just after Computex." theinquirer

I am confused. I was planning on buying the FX-60 because I thought it was the fastest 939 socket for gaming. Is the 4800+ the fastest? It sounds like they are both the fastest..... WTF?
February 16, 2006 8:21:29 AM

Bothe the FX60, and the X2 4800 are dual cores.
The FX60 is currently Amd's fastest dual core chip @ 2.6ghz
The X2 4800 is Amd's fastest (non FX) standard A64 X2 chip @ 2.4ghz.
February 16, 2006 9:01:05 AM

Hey man, hope you are who I think you are.
February 16, 2006 10:41:01 AM

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Nice work AMD, everyone can be proud :D  :D  :wink: :wink:

That already sounds to me like supporting a sports team :wink: . Anyway, those new chips sound good, but let's see how AMD performs with DDR2. And the other thing is that we're waiting to see how the new tech from Intel performs... Anyway, the new tech has always been interesting to me, but it never gave me the thrill because of the really high prices...
February 16, 2006 11:50:00 AM

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It seems that both 5000+ and FX62 come as socket AM 2 only things. We suspect that we are talking about a speed update of both cores and we expect that the 5000+ could end up at 2.6GHz while the FX 62 will rock at 2.8 GHz


Well done AMD.

Read here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29718

all i can say is AMD FOR SALE 4800+ with 2gigs of ram!!!!
February 16, 2006 12:15:49 PM

This is the exact reason I went with a 3800+ venice when i rebuilt my system. I knew it would need an upgrade by year end because of DDr2 and AM2 socket. GG AMD, right in par with my expectations. Anyone want to buy a DFI Lanparty UT Expert with 2 GB Mushkin Redline and a massively OC'd Venice core :p 

(Yes im neglecting the fact that none of this will really be availible till june/july, so don't burst my bubble lol)
February 16, 2006 12:24:26 PM

i am actually thinking of downgrading, maby to an opti 170, then it wouldnt hurt so bad when i go into AM2 socket...
February 16, 2006 1:27:32 PM

how much you want for your system?
February 16, 2006 1:55:40 PM

i'll give you dollar fifty no more no less
February 16, 2006 1:57:36 PM

sold. send payment to youracheapass@aol.com
February 16, 2006 2:04:46 PM

ok bring it to my house tommorrow
February 16, 2006 4:33:06 PM

Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the 5000 X2 and the FX-62 other than speed or is this just a marketing thing? Isn't the FX-60 the same chip as the 4800 X2, just faster? If so seems rather confusing and "transparent" to me.

~Matt
February 16, 2006 4:36:59 PM

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Isn't the FX-60 the same chip as the 4800 X2, just faster?

Yes and the unlocked multiplyer. Which really is useless, since the chip doesnt get more than a 200MHz overclock stable.
February 16, 2006 5:00:51 PM

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Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the 5000 X2 and the FX-62 other than speed or is this just a marketing thing? Isn't the FX-60 the same chip as the 4800 X2, just faster? If so seems rather confusing and "transparent" to me.

~Matt

The FX-62 will have a 333 MHz HTT speed and 2x1MB L2 cache while the X2 5000+ will only have the vanilla 200 MHz and 2x512kB L2 cache.
And yes, the FX-60 is exactly the same as the X2 4800+ and I mean the same, AMD didnt even bother to use better chips in the heart of the wafer for their FX CPUs (which OC results clearly prove).
Well, their naming system IS confusing, illegal CPU names (dont whine now AMD fanboys, telling your own product is better than a competitors product IS illegal, at least in Europe), with 2 different cache sizes and soon with 2 different HTT speeds dont really tell you much and you really have to get into things to know which CPU is which.
February 16, 2006 5:25:04 PM

this has been discussed before, the FX-60 has an unlocked multiplier. and that is the big price differance. and its also the fastest processor that AMD makes.

the FX-62 and 5000+ will be the same speeds, they will just run with DDR2-800 ram.
February 16, 2006 5:27:14 PM

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Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the 5000 X2 and the FX-62 other than speed or is this just a marketing thing? Isn't the FX-60 the same chip as the 4800 X2, just faster? If so seems rather confusing and "transparent" to me.

~Matt

The FX-62 will have a 333 MHz HTT speed and 2x1MB L2 cache while the X2 5000+ will only have the vanilla 200 MHz and 2x512kB L2 cache.
And yes, the FX-60 is exactly the same as the X2 4800+ and I mean the same, AMD didnt even bother to use better chips in the heart of the wafer for their FX CPUs (which OC results clearly prove).
Well, their naming system IS confusing, illegal CPU names (dont whine now AMD fanboys, telling your own product is better than a competitors product IS illegal, at least in Europe), with 2 different cache sizes and soon with 2 different HTT speeds dont really tell you much and you really have to get into things to know which CPU is which.

AMD cpu's are faster in allmost every case. europe sucks, just for the record. USA WILL DESTROY YOU ALL
February 16, 2006 5:27:25 PM

Yes, but the unlocked multiplier on the FX60 is useless, since the TDP of the chip are maxed stock anyway.
February 16, 2006 5:29:03 PM

Basically, you are paying AMD to overclock it for you, save $700 and get an Opteron 170 and overclock it right up to the same speed a FX-60 will go...
Same chips, one just is expensive.
February 16, 2006 5:39:56 PM

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this has been discussed before, the FX-60 has an unlocked multiplier. and that is the big price differance. and its also the fastest processor that AMD makes.



While you are correct I have to point out one thing...it is named the FX-60 but clock speed wise it is not the fastest CPU AMD makes...the FX-60 is clocked at 2.6 Ghz and is dual core the FX-57 is clocked at 2.8 Ghz and is single core..........while both are behemouths.......the 57 is faster in some applications..........fyi...
February 16, 2006 5:41:14 PM

Yes it is and those applications are called legacy!
:lol: 
February 16, 2006 5:44:50 PM

Yes.
February 16, 2006 5:49:22 PM

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this has been discussed before, the FX-60 has an unlocked multiplier. and that is the big price differance. and its also the fastest processor that AMD makes.



While you are correct I have to point out one thing...it is named the FX-60 but clock speed wise it is not the fastest CPU AMD makes...the FX-60 is clocked at 2.6 Ghz and is dual core the FX-57 is clocked at 2.8 Ghz and is single core..........while both are behemouths.......the 57 is faster in some applications..........fyi...

i call the dual-cores faster because a SMP program will allways be faster then a single threaded. and for anyone who uses nvidia, the new drivers will process in the second core giving you more frames then a singlecore processor.

added: SMP is faster on a dual core VS single thread on a single core.
February 16, 2006 6:06:37 PM

True, it was ATI that first released multi-threaded drivers.
February 16, 2006 6:07:54 PM

dont know mutch about ATI, never owned one.
February 16, 2006 6:09:20 PM

That is OK, ATI users need someone to dominate! :p  :p 
February 16, 2006 6:33:09 PM

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AMD cpu's are faster in allmost every case. europe sucks, just for the record. USA WILL DESTROY YOU ALL

a, Err... no unless you mean slower by sayin faster
b, I wanna see the USA do that (actually I dont want to, just a sayin, you get the point I guess)
February 16, 2006 6:50:48 PM

Like this one...



or maybe this one...



or this one...


Maybe you don't look at THG benchies...
February 16, 2006 6:58:20 PM

maybe he's stupid and just goes by clock speed :p  :roll:
February 17, 2006 12:11:53 AM

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Yes and the unlocked multiplyer. Which really is useless, since the chip doesnt get more than a 200MHz overclock stable.


Sorry to contradict you here RichPLS, but I have hard evidence that the FX-60 can overclock at 3.2GHz with stock HSF:
http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/processors/amd_fx60...
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The system is currently stable at 3.2 GHz and will post into windows at 3.4 GHz but not stable. At 3.2 GHz we are able to use the stock heat sink included with the FX-60 at a mild 35C. This is an amazing 600 MHz over stock with very little tweaking to get there. The FX-60 simply has amazing over-clocking potential!


This will make it an equivalent to an 5.0GHz 955EE phase-changed cooled. 8)
February 17, 2006 12:16:49 AM

Ohh, and let's not forget that a 200MHz overclock on an AMD system is almost equal to an 800MHz overclock for an Intel system. 8)
What I'm trying to say here is that if your statement were true about the FX-60 only being cappable of a 200MHz overclock with stock air cooling, it will still be sufficient to surpass Intel's 800MHz overclock. :wink:
February 17, 2006 12:27:48 AM

Facts are facts. They are both fast processors and competitive at stock both with pros and cons.
Fact is the FX60 is a poor overclocker, the Intel 955 is a very good overclocker.
Heck, My Opteron 175 is a poor overclocker. Stock at 2.2GHz, very stable at 2.5GHz, some minor occasional errors can be detected at 2.6GHz, but it tops out at 2.68GHz. That is a max stable overclock of only 20% or 400MHz
I have very good quality memory and graphics card, heck all components are top notch enthusiast parts.
I consider a good overclocker to be stable at over 20%, the FX-60 will never do that, since it is already at the limits of its TDP.
That is not the case for Intels 955, which means there is a lot of untapped potential that Intel can tweak to ramp up the MHz.
February 17, 2006 12:30:41 AM

According to a another Inquirer article FX-62 will have 4mb L3 cache.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29738

Maybe we'll see some of this bickering stop then.

*EDIT* Bah 9-inch already posted this in another thread. :cry: 
February 17, 2006 12:39:18 AM

dont insult europe man my parents are from their
February 17, 2006 12:41:09 AM

your 175 opti has more potential then you know how to get out of it. thoes are shown stable at 2.8-3.0 with watercooling.

as for the review that says it hit 3.2GHz with the FX60 they so so full of sit. that would never be stable with stock cooling, phase change can only go to 3.4, i love amd but that review is bullsit
February 17, 2006 12:52:00 AM

I have the following...
Lian Li PC-60plus Black Aluminum Case
Opteron 175 (2x 2.42 GHz, 2MB cache, Socket 939, .09 micron, E6 stepping, OSA175DAA6CD)
ThermalTake BigWaterSE 12cm liquid cooling system complete kit
Asus A8R-MVP Motherboard (ATI Radeon Xpress 200 CrossFire, socket 939, SATA2)
HiS X1800XT Graphics Card (625 MHz/700 MHz OC core/1500 Mhz/1600 MHz OC mem, Dual DL-DVI VIVO 512 MB PCIe)
ATI TV Theater 550 PRO Tuner (PCI TV and FM Tuner)
4x 512MB Corsair Micro Xpert DDR RAM (2-3-3-8-2T (spd 2-2-2-5-1T) TwinXP 1024-3200XL)
2x 74gig Western Digital Raptor Hard Drives RAID-0 (WD740GD RAID0 150gig Boot Drive)
2x 250gig Western Digital Caviar SE16 Hard Drives (WD2500KS storage and data)
Plextor 716AL Black 16x DVD/CD Burner (IDE slot loading type)
Antec TP-II 550 Power Supply (550 Watt ATX12V v2.0 PSU)
Dell 2405FPW 24-inch LCD Monitor (UltraSharp Wide Aspect Flat Panel Display)
Logitech G-15 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech Cordless Optical TrackMan
4 Case Fans (SilenX 120mm intake, Adda 120mm exhaust blower, SilenX 92mm exhaust and SilenX 80mm Fan)

And I tried it with just two sticks at 9x, 10, 10x, 10.5x and 11 multipliers. They all stop at 2700MHz on the CPU.
It will do the same with 4 sticks also, just have to relax the timings a bit.
It does bench very fast tho, easily besting a stock FX-60!
February 17, 2006 12:59:40 AM

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4x 512MB Corsair Micro Xpert DDR RAM (2-3-3-8-2T (spd 2-2-2-5-1T) TwinXP 1024-3200XL)


dont run 4 sticks, your hurting yourself.
up the core to 1.6volts and you can get more out of it, about 2.9 should be a happyspot at 1.6volts.
February 17, 2006 1:10:41 AM

Stock is 1.35 volts, and this board will not go higher than 1.475 volts on this core.
February 17, 2006 1:45:44 AM

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dont insult europe man my parents are from their


ya so are my anscestors..........3 centuries ago
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