Printing a CD with PIXMA 4000

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I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive, so I
decided to try Nero Cover Designer.

Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the CD
tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image... right now it
prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD face. So most of
the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial image (in excellent
quality btw!)...

Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with Cover
Designer?
 
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S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
> I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
> 4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive,
> so I decided to try Nero Cover Designer.
>
> Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the
> CD tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image...
> right now it prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD
> face. So most of the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial
> image (in excellent quality btw!)...
>
> Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with
> Cover Designer?

A lot of try-and-see printing. Get some old coasters (normal CDR's), select
blank label, and draw only one black circle in very outer egde of CDR. Then
insert that coaster and print This black circle will be seen on normal
surface CDR's, too. So, you'll be able to see where this circle is printed
and align it accordingly - for this x any y point must be altered.
 
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On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:48:16 +0100, SleeperMan <SleeperMan@too.sleepy>
wrote:

> S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
>> I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
>> 4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive,
>> so I decided to try Nero Cover Designer.
>>
>> Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the
>> CD tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image...
>> right now it prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD
>> face. So most of the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial
>> image (in excellent quality btw!)...
>>
>> Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with
>> Cover Designer?
>
> A lot of try-and-see printing. Get some old coasters (normal CDR's),
> select
> blank label, and draw only one black circle in very outer egde of CDR.
> Then
> insert that coaster and print This black circle will be seen on normal
> surface CDR's, too. So, you'll be able to see where this circle is
> printed
> and align it accordingly - for this x any y point must be altered.
>
>

That's an excellent idea, I'll do that! Thanks...
 
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> A lot of try-and-see printing. Get some old coasters (normal CDR's), select
> blank label, and draw only one black circle in very outer egde of CDR. Then
> insert that coaster and print This black circle will be seen on normal
> surface CDR's, too. So, you'll be able to see where this circle is printed
> and align it accordingly - for this x any y point must be altered.

Good idea right enough. But you only need **one** CDR.

Just wipe the line off each time and re-insert .....


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Where are you guys getting the CD printing attachment or tray, whatever it
is. ??

Canon USA doesn't seem to know they exist.





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> I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
> 4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive, so I
> decided to try Nero Cover Designer.
>
> Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the CD
> tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image... right now it
> prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD face. So most of
> the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial image (in excellent
> quality btw!)...
>
> Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with Cover
> Designer?
 
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"S.V. Groeneveld" <mail@no.spam> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:48:16 +0100, SleeperMan <SleeperMan@too.sleepy>
> wrote:
>
> > S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
> >> I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
> >> 4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive,
> >> so I decided to try Nero Cover Designer.
> >>
> >> Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the
> >> CD tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image...
> >> right now it prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD
> >> face. So most of the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial
> >> image (in excellent quality btw!)...
> >>
> >> Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with
> >> Cover Designer?
> >
> > A lot of try-and-see printing. Get some old coasters (normal CDR's),
> > select
> > blank label, and draw only one black circle in very outer egde of CDR.
> > Then
> > insert that coaster and print This black circle will be seen on normal
> > surface CDR's, too. So, you'll be able to see where this circle is
> > printed
> > and align it accordingly - for this x any y point must be altered.
> >
> >
>
> That's an excellent idea, I'll do that! Thanks...
 
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Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
TX):):
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> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:48:16 +0100, SleeperMan <SleeperMan@too.sleepy>
> wrote:
>
> > S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
> >> I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
> >> 4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive,
> >> so I decided to try Nero Cover Designer.
> >>
> >> Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the
> >> CD tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image...
> >> right now it prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD
> >> face. So most of the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial
> >> image (in excellent quality btw!)...
> >>
> >> Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with
> >> Cover Designer?
> >
> > A lot of try-and-see printing. Get some old coasters (normal CDR's),
> > select
> > blank label, and draw only one black circle in very outer egde of CDR.
> > Then
> > insert that coaster and print This black circle will be seen on normal
> > surface CDR's, too. So, you'll be able to see where this circle is
> > printed
> > and align it accordingly - for this x any y point must be altered.
> >
> >
>
> That's an excellent idea, I'll do that! Thanks...
 
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fay10 wrote:
> Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
> TX):):

Now you got me...

To be honest, i don't remember...But, if i recall right, i made a new
template and then adjust it. pre-made ones sometimes doesn't have the
possibility to adjust them...

The real point of not-knowing is that i print so little CDR's that original
software is quite good for me...i just tried surething because i didn't know
that original one can print to inner circle. But after i found out that it
can, i removed surething...

But, all templates must have measures for template paper and position where
CDR is located. So, either move CDR or resize template paper...
IF you won't find it, maybe i can install it again and find it...
 
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Bloggy wrote:
>> A lot of try-and-see printing. Get some old coasters (normal CDR's),
>> select blank label, and draw only one black circle in very outer
>> egde of CDR. Then insert that coaster and print This black circle
>> will be seen on normal surface CDR's, too. So, you'll be able to see
>> where this circle is printed and align it accordingly - for this x
>> any y point must be altered.
>
> Good idea right enough. But you only need **one** CDR.
>
> Just wipe the line off each time and re-insert .....
>
>
> Bloggy

Good idea...!!!
 
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SleeperMan wrote:
> fay10 wrote:
>> Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
>> TX):):
>
> Now you got me...
>
> To be honest, i don't remember...But, if i recall right, i made a new
> template and then adjust it. pre-made ones sometimes doesn't have the
> possibility to adjust them...
>
> The real point of not-knowing is that i print so little CDR's that
> original software is quite good for me...i just tried surething
> because i didn't know that original one can print to inner circle.
> But after i found out that it can, i removed surething...
>
> But, all templates must have measures for template paper and position
> where CDR is located. So, either move CDR or resize template paper...
> IF you won't find it, maybe i can install it again and find it...

Sooooo,

i installed this damn thing...
if i look quickly, the best way is to start template creation wizard, enter
all needed data and go. For correcting x and y open page setup and correct
start position.
I hope this helps...
 
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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:16:13 +1300, fay10 <faye10@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:

> Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
> TX):):

For completeness, I'll describe the steps I performed to get it working.
It's a shame I never paid attention to these paper templates... thanks
again!

Create the new template:

1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > Paper Stocks
2) In the list select 'User-defined Stocks' and press the 'Add Stock'
button
3) Give the new stock a nice name, eg. "CD-Tray PIXMA 4000"
4) Set width = 131.0mm, height = 238.7mm (got these from Printer
Preferences dialog)
5) Press the 'Add Item' button and select 'Label'
6) Set outer radius = 59.0mm, inner radius = 22.0mm (or 11.0mm for a small
hole in the middle)
7) Set position X = 6.5mm, Y = 87.0mm

Print onto disc:

1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > New and select any disc template
(this is not the one created above)
2) Select the tab "Disk 1"
3) Choose your freshly created paper format from the drop-down box on top
4) Now paint your cover...
5) Goto File > Print
6) On tab 'Elements' unselect the things you don't want (is there a way to
remove or disable these in the disc template?)
7) On tab 'General' press the 'Setup' button, and choose PIXMA 4000
'Properties'
8) On tab 'Main', set Media type to "Printable disc (recommended)" (this
will also select "Disc tray" as paper source)
9) On tab 'Page Setup', set Page size to "CD-R tray B"
10) OK, OK, OK :)
 
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I am In New Zealand and I don't know where Sleeper Man is...
Here the Pixma Range come with a CD Tray that you insert and it prints the
most awesome looking Cds..and DVDs..
This Spec for some reason though is not available in the States..Don't ask
me why??maybe its Sony using their Muscle and fearing these Pixmas are just
TOO GOOD at labeling DVDs and CD,s..
"Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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> Where are you guys getting the CD printing attachment or tray, whatever it
> is. ??
>
> Canon USA doesn't seem to know they exist.
>
>
>
>
>
> "S.V. Groeneveld" <mail@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:eek:psijjfvwse5nxey@s960912.campus.tue.nl...
> > I'm trying to print onto a printable CD directly with the Canon PIXMA
> > 4000. The software that came with the printer is not very impressive, so
I
> > decided to try Nero Cover Designer.
> >
> > Now I already found the right settings so it would actually *use* the CD
> > tray. I just have some troubles aligning the printed image... right now
it
> > prints the bottom part of the image on the top of the CD face. So most
of
> > the CD face is still blank, there's just a partial image (in excellent
> > quality btw!)...
> >
> > Can anyone describe what they did to print onto a CD directly with Cover
> > Designer?
>
>
 
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In article fay10 says...
> This Spec for some reason though is not available in the States..Don't ask
> me why??maybe its Sony using their Muscle and fearing these Pixmas are just
> TOO GOOD at labeling DVDs and CD,s..
>
Don't think it's down to Sony, after all Epson have CD printing in the
R300. Canon USA either can't or don't want to license the idea off the
patent holder for the US region.
 
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I've said it before and will again......F*** Sony. Grrrrrrrrrr

This is an awesome printer, disc printing would make it damn near perfect.
Didn't Canon make CDR attachments for another printer? Maybe they will
introduce it in the USA eventually. Or one of you Aussies could offer to
start importing them to the USA . ;-)



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> In article fay10 says...
> > This Spec for some reason though is not available in the States..Don't
ask
> > me why??maybe its Sony using their Muscle and fearing these Pixmas are
just
> > TOO GOOD at labeling DVDs and CD,s..
> >
> Don't think it's down to Sony, after all Epson have CD printing in the
> R300. Canon USA either can't or don't want to license the idea off the
> patent holder for the US region.
 
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OK, I contacted customer service at Canon USA, and here's the non-response I
got:

Thank you for your inquiry.

Globally, Canon is comprised of many different sales divisions. Each
sales division makes their own business decisions as to the products and
features they feel will help them achieve their goals and best suit
their market. Canon USA has made the decision not to include the CDR/DVD
printing feature on consumer printers sold in this market.

Thank you for contacting Canon.

Sincerely,

Naomi
Product Support Representative


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> I've said it before and will again......F*** Sony. Grrrrrrrrrr
>
> This is an awesome printer, disc printing would make it damn near perfect.
> Didn't Canon make CDR attachments for another printer? Maybe they will
> introduce it in the USA eventually. Or one of you Aussies could offer to
> start importing them to the USA . ;-)
>
>
>
> "colinco" <colincomma@yawhoo.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c1f9bda30e6cb72989882@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > In article fay10 says...
> > > This Spec for some reason though is not available in the States..Don't
> ask
> > > me why??maybe its Sony using their Muscle and fearing these Pixmas are
> just
> > > TOO GOOD at labeling DVDs and CD,s..
> > >
> > Don't think it's down to Sony, after all Epson have CD printing in the
> > R300. Canon USA either can't or don't want to license the idea off the
> > patent holder for the US region.
>
>
 

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 20:34:16 -0700, in comp.periphs.printers, "Dan G"
<Dan@xxxx.com> wrote:

>OK, I contacted customer service at Canon USA, and here's the non-response I
>got:
>
>
>Thank you for your inquiry.
>
>Globally, Canon is comprised of many different sales divisions. Each
>sales division makes their own business decisions as to the products and
>features they feel will help them achieve their goals and best suit
>their market. Canon USA has made the decision not to include the CDR/DVD
>printing feature on consumer printers sold in this market.
>
>Thank you for contacting Canon.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Naomi
>Product Support Representative
>

It's a global market. Buy one from a country which *does* sell what you
want.

Dave

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fay10 wrote:
> I am In New Zealand and I don't know where Sleeper Man is...

Slovenia---Europe
 
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S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:16:13 +1300, fay10 <faye10@slingshot.co.nz>
> wrote:
>> Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
>> TX):):
>
> For completeness, I'll describe the steps I performed to get it
> working. It's a shame I never paid attention to these paper
> templates... thanks again!
>
> Create the new template:
>
> 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > Paper Stocks
> 2) In the list select 'User-defined Stocks' and press the 'Add Stock'
> button
> 3) Give the new stock a nice name, eg. "CD-Tray PIXMA 4000"
> 4) Set width = 131.0mm, height = 238.7mm (got these from Printer
> Preferences dialog)
> 5) Press the 'Add Item' button and select 'Label'
> 6) Set outer radius = 59.0mm, inner radius = 22.0mm (or 11.0mm for a
> small hole in the middle)
> 7) Set position X = 6.5mm, Y = 87.0mm
>
> Print onto disc:
>
> 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > New and select any disc template
> (this is not the one created above)
> 2) Select the tab "Disk 1"
> 3) Choose your freshly created paper format from the drop-down box on
> top 4) Now paint your cover...
> 5) Goto File > Print
> 6) On tab 'Elements' unselect the things you don't want (is there a
> way to remove or disable these in the disc template?)
> 7) On tab 'General' press the 'Setup' button, and choose PIXMA 4000
> 'Properties'
> 8) On tab 'Main', set Media type to "Printable disc (recommended)"
> (this will also select "Disc tray" as paper source)
> 9) On tab 'Page Setup', set Page size to "CD-R tray B"
> 10) OK, OK, OK :)

Nice...i guess that same numbers can be used in Surething, too...
 
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Wow!!!These seem to be the magic numbers....Lil Bit hard to fathom at first
but after a wile it all adds up..btw the Canon I865 Template is almost
right...
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> S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:16:13 +1300, fay10 <faye10@slingshot.co.nz>
> > wrote:
> >> Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
> >> TX):):
> >
> > For completeness, I'll describe the steps I performed to get it
> > working. It's a shame I never paid attention to these paper
> > templates... thanks again!
> >
> > Create the new template:
> >
> > 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > Paper Stocks
> > 2) In the list select 'User-defined Stocks' and press the 'Add Stock'
> > button
> > 3) Give the new stock a nice name, eg. "CD-Tray PIXMA 4000"
> > 4) Set width = 131.0mm, height = 238.7mm (got these from Printer
> > Preferences dialog)
> > 5) Press the 'Add Item' button and select 'Label'
> > 6) Set outer radius = 59.0mm, inner radius = 22.0mm (or 11.0mm for a
> > small hole in the middle)
> > 7) Set position X = 6.5mm, Y = 87.0mm
> >
> > Print onto disc:
> >
> > 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > New and select any disc template
> > (this is not the one created above)
> > 2) Select the tab "Disk 1"
> > 3) Choose your freshly created paper format from the drop-down box on
> > top 4) Now paint your cover...
> > 5) Goto File > Print
> > 6) On tab 'Elements' unselect the things you don't want (is there a
> > way to remove or disable these in the disc template?)
> > 7) On tab 'General' press the 'Setup' button, and choose PIXMA 4000
> > 'Properties'
> > 8) On tab 'Main', set Media type to "Printable disc (recommended)"
> > (this will also select "Disc tray" as paper source)
> > 9) On tab 'Page Setup', set Page size to "CD-R tray B"
> > 10) OK, OK, OK :)
>
> Nice...i guess that same numbers can be used in Surething, too...
>
>
 
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fay10 wrote:
> Wow!!!These seem to be the magic numbers....Lil Bit hard to fathom at
> first but after a wile it all adds up..btw the Canon I865 Template is
> almost right...

Yep, i think i even did use that one when testing Surething.

> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote in message
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>> S.V. Groeneveld wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:16:13 +1300, fay10 <faye10@slingshot.co.nz>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Sleeper how do we Find X and Y Points???
>>>> TX):):
>>>
>>> For completeness, I'll describe the steps I performed to get it
>>> working. It's a shame I never paid attention to these paper
>>> templates... thanks again!
>>>
>>> Create the new template:
>>>
>>> 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > Paper Stocks
>>> 2) In the list select 'User-defined Stocks' and press the 'Add
>>> Stock' button
>>> 3) Give the new stock a nice name, eg. "CD-Tray PIXMA 4000"
>>> 4) Set width = 131.0mm, height = 238.7mm (got these from Printer
>>> Preferences dialog)
>>> 5) Press the 'Add Item' button and select 'Label'
>>> 6) Set outer radius = 59.0mm, inner radius = 22.0mm (or 11.0mm for a
>>> small hole in the middle)
>>> 7) Set position X = 6.5mm, Y = 87.0mm
>>>
>>> Print onto disc:
>>>
>>> 1) In Nero Cover Designer goto File > New and select any disc
>>> template (this is not the one created above)
>>> 2) Select the tab "Disk 1"
>>> 3) Choose your freshly created paper format from the drop-down box
>>> on top 4) Now paint your cover...
>>> 5) Goto File > Print
>>> 6) On tab 'Elements' unselect the things you don't want (is there a
>>> way to remove or disable these in the disc template?)
>>> 7) On tab 'General' press the 'Setup' button, and choose PIXMA 4000
>>> 'Properties'
>>> 8) On tab 'Main', set Media type to "Printable disc (recommended)"
>>> (this will also select "Disc tray" as paper source)
>>> 9) On tab 'Page Setup', set Page size to "CD-R tray B"
>>> 10) OK, OK, OK :)
>>
>> Nice...i guess that same numbers can be used in Surething, too...