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Maybe he has Radar vision and a keen eye for ground track movement. Many
pilots cannot estimate accuratley wind movement with just their eye without
an aid such as a windsock/smoke/trees/water around. Even Trees and Water can
be quite a chore and some pilots may not be able to pick up the clues
without windsock and smoke.
Plotting a ground point with the eye and pointing the nose at it can show
crosswind component, but for tail/head component it can get a little harder
to spot. However there is the trick of finding a straight length that you
know the length of, set an expected airspeed and count seconds how long it
takes you to traverse that length. A runway is a good starting point. Which
brings us to the circuit. If you are flying into a non-towered aerodrome
with nothing but the concrete/dirt/grass strip to land on and nothing else
around, you should go through your full percautionary circuits, Counting the
length of the field, Checking the 5 S's (surface Slope (s)ivilization
Suitability obSticales) by counting the length of the field one way and then
the other you will figure out pretty quick which direction you went faster.
and should approach from the slower direction (assuming a constant KIAS and
Altitude were kept both directions)
"pr" <nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Quilljar <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Well I don't intend to get into an argument about the CAA rules.
>
> Well, my point was simply that I didn't understand what your brief single
> sentence was trying to imply. Hence my rambling on about the arrival
> airport when, in fact, you were discussing winds *at that moment.*
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> A discussion in a newsgroup where one simply asks what the other was
> implying is not an argument in my book.
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>> But my
>> point is I agree that a pilot should indeed use all the information
>> available, but it is only normal good airmanship to know the speed and
>> direction of the wind wherever you are at all times.
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> I totally agree with the above. Again, though, I thought you were
> referring to future winds at the arrival airport, not winds en route.
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>> Just look out of the window.
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> Ok, so you are flying at 15,000 feet on a clear day over sparsely
> populated
> terrain devoid of any smoke. I am sincerely curious what clues you would
> use when looking out the window to determine wind direction and speed.
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> I do know that one can determine winds by heading correction and
> groundspeed versus true airspeed, but that requires a head in the cockpit.
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>> As a retired pro I do know whereof I speak.
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> I'll take your word for it. However, I don't recall questioning your
> background, just looking for clarification.
>
>> I would have lost my life many times if I had not known the direction and
>> speed of the wind, and with no ATC and radio silence too.
>
> Many times? Was this during war time or have you really had that much
> unfortunate luck with aircraft? I would be interested in reading some of
> your stories.
>
>> Ah well, perhaps it's a dying skill
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> Yes, nothing is ever the same as those "good ole days."
Us young
> whipper snappers don't know anything, nor respect the experience of those
> elders! ;-) Ditch the GPS and bring back NDB approaches, I say.
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> I hope you know that I am totally joking.
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> Peter
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