Article: Intel's Conroe and Merom chips

Source: Intel strikes back with next-generation chips, CNET News.com
By Tom Krazit
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: February 17, 2006
Copyright ©2006 CNET Networks

As compared to?
I'm not holding my breath. If any front man tells me his product is only 20% better than the competition, you know he's worried.
A little while ago, our friend LC Data gave us an Intel sponsored review of Presler. It certainly showed that Presler was more than 20% faster than Opteron.

That's music to Intel's ears as far as i'm concerned. I certainly hope it does offer 20% increase in performance over AMD. I honestly believe it will be true since Intel has their backs to the wall with the anti-trust thing and AMD having a slight performance advantage in the 32 bit arena.

Do you have a link to where LC Data has that info? I would love to read it.


Thanks in advance

Sorry, I cant find it. I thought it was @ 2cpu.com, but couldn't find it there.
If you PM Data, I'm sure he knows where it is.

20% performance increase over AMD. I wouldn't worry so much about the cost index right now either. Intel is getting ready to slash prices on current stock so they can roll out new stock at competitive prices.

I agree Intels have some sick OC'ing room. As I've stated before, it ain't over till its over. Once Intel rolls out conroe, we simply won't know the performance advantages. I believe Intel will certainly apply the pressure. Its just nice to know that they are confident that they will have a performance advantage.

come on its only a shift from average latency ddr1 to high latency ddr2 - thg benchmarked an A64 with DDR500 and there was barly any diffrence, ddr2 will add bandwidth (double in theory) but at the cost of latency, but it will also add a bit of headroom (lower power thanks to the ddr2 and controller vcore) - its still an A64 and still processes things the same way VS intels ground up (almost) new chip - and yes we, the people get better deals that way, and if intels low end chips do eat amds high end chips they will lower prices conciderably - and that i like (aswell).

well if intel will beat amd then they will have to innovate wont they like with hyper transport.64bit procs and soi

ok luminaris btw if amd innovates then intel will make its own new technology to keep up but if intel innovates then amd will team up with ibm agian to bring down intel(ibm hates intel since back in the day when they used to help each other out back in the days of the ibm compatible pc and the days when windows wasable to run on more than one architecture)(i read alot of pc history books)(did you know that the first transistor wasnt invented till 1947 and that texas instruments didnt develop the integrated circuit till 1953 and that xerox invented the mouse and windows not the os silly)

lol ... the kids a trip ...

Intel also said in the Mac arena that their chips would be 2-4 times faster than the powerPC chip, which Mac had previously stated (until the magoc shift when Intel got to be way better), that the PowerPC chip was a far better performer.

Both of those statements were more PR than true, and I see this as eing an exageration as well. I can see the new chips being faster than the first AM2 chips (though the latency inscrease won't be that bad). Hoever, I DON't think there will be that drastic of a difference.

This is a major architecture shift for Intel, and if I understand correctly, AMD is still working toward their early long term goals for A64 and HyperTransport. The next 12-24 months should be pretty interesting.

I know, that was my point.

I was writing that in response to a previous poster that mentioned the latency cost of DDR2

Opterons currently use a 200mhz memory bus.

200MHz Memory Clock with 3 x 16bit 1000MHz HT buses (2000MHz effective in Full Duplex) one of which is for the RAM.

I agree.

There has been plenty of flaming from both sides. Let's try to be responsible individuals here.

Semper Fi Linux on!

I've noticied a large portion of those AMD flamers are little kiddies who get roudy when ever a Intel fanboi says "AMD Sux0r t3h big 11111
!!!!!". They take things to seriously because they just spend there $3k life savings on building the best AMD system they can and some Intel supporter comes along and says it's shit because its AMD, then they crack the shits and flame Intel for revenge.

I support both sides of the tree, both AMD and Intel deserve a bit of a flamin ow and again, they both do some stupid shit.... Just right now, Intel seems to be a little more full of themselves then usual I guess this battle is like good vs evil.....

I agree too. I'm so sick of looking at all of these forums and yet, there's another AMD fan cracking against Intel. I do see the few Intel fans fighting back but its still very much an AMD world. All you gotta do is just look at these forums and you'll see evidence all over.

To Mr. Linux, while I do agree we should all be responsible, it is up to those of us who have been around computers for some time, to teach those who seek knowledge about the entire performance spectrum and not be one sided. I'm not necessarily accusing you by any means, but just take a look at these forums. It leans very heavily on the AMD side and is rather pitiful IMO. I like AMD as much as the next guy but these forums have done nothing but driven me to use Intel more and more just to be on the defensive. I usually don't make snide and obtrusive remarks in these forums as I'm a highly educated man however, when you see the same things day in and day out in these forums, its very frustrating to say the least. Yes, I could go elsewhere but i'm here to help people and not flame them to death.

I'm not sure where it is DVD but, from what I've heard, there's a brand new boxed FX60 sittin on it for you. Better hurry!

Nah, life without DVD would be like getting rid of foot fungus. It just wouldn't be fun anymore without it

Besides, he brings good knowledge to us despite his caffeine fits

Whos joking?

hey y-con i think i do know you have you ever lived in brooklyn or have you ever been to digital life show here in new york?

No, Im not from Brooklyn.