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Athlon 64 3700+ handle F.E.A.R??

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February 23, 2006 1:05:41 PM

Hey ppl, Im new to the wonderful world of pc building :D  and im just a bit unsure of the cpu (athlon 3700+) ill be using. Im a 100% gamer and i play Fear, Bf2, Hl2 etc. and am hoping to run these games and any upcoming fps's on max detail nice and smoothely. Just wondering if the CPU combined with the below specs is good enough to handle all this without a problem? Any help appreciated and thanks in advance.


Therm. Armor case (Aluminium)
Amd Athlon 64 3700+?
Seasonic s12 600W PSU
Xfx 7800 gtx 256mb
Asus A8N sli premium
2gig RAM
WD Raptor 150gb
Win xp Pro
----------------------------------- All already ordered.

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February 23, 2006 1:26:39 PM

yeah, you'll be fine with that rig man. It'll pretty much eat whatever you throw at it. Good luck with it
February 23, 2006 1:34:34 PM

Okay thanks. Do you think it will handle sli?
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February 23, 2006 1:46:37 PM

sli is a waste of money. if you want a super powerful pc experience, go for one ultra strong card.
February 23, 2006 1:48:03 PM

Well, its a SLI board so yes, it will handle SLI. Me personally, I only use one card which works fine. I do have another one coming just to see what difference there really is.
February 23, 2006 2:48:58 PM

yes any s939 proc can handle fear with a good graphics card.but dude what kind of ram you runnin if its name brand with low cas like 3.0 then yeah you should be fine but if you got the cheap stuff like rosewill,wintec.viking,etc then you might have some lag cuase of the high cas
February 23, 2006 2:52:25 PM

yesdvddoeshaveapointthereandIagree.AnyAMDprocessorwillprettymuchdowhatyouwantaslongasyoudon'tusecheapRAM.WellsaidDVD

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February 23, 2006 2:55:24 PM

I have Corsair twinx2048-3200 (2gb). Dat okay?
February 23, 2006 3:01:44 PM

That's a good choice man.
February 23, 2006 3:07:22 PM

Thats a relief. I was getting a bit worried there for sec, lol. There would be no going back!
February 23, 2006 3:09:49 PM

Hi all!
I hope you dont mind if I "kidnap" the thread a little.
I wonder what difference quality ram really makes?
In performance, and in feel.
Also, does high clock vs good timings "feel" different?

cheers
Suras
February 23, 2006 3:31:32 PM

Go onto corsair.com and you'll see all the different categories, eg. Xms ( low latency gaming ram).
February 23, 2006 3:39:50 PM

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yesdvddoeshaveapointthereandIagree.AnyAMDprocessorwillprettymuchdowhatyouwantaslongasyoudon'tusecheapRAM.WellsaidDVD

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February 23, 2006 4:04:08 PM

Quote:
Hi all!
I hope you dont mind if I "kidnap" the thread a little.
I wonder what difference quality ram really makes?
In performance, and in feel.
Also, does high clock vs good timings "feel" different?

cheers
Suras
dude the cas maybe the same but the ras to cas delay maybe way higher and the discharge maybe too high that it bottle necks your other components
February 23, 2006 4:05:25 PM

best to have it somewhere in between extreme frequency and extreme low latency.
February 23, 2006 4:11:54 PM

Generally, the cheaper RAM has higher latency and is not as fast.
February 23, 2006 4:13:41 PM

BH5 @ 250 2-2-2-5 is basically the best settings you can have, it's a shame winbond didn't make more ='(
February 23, 2006 4:18:59 PM

Ok
Using such really good ram, is it comparable to 200mhz increase in cpu freq?
Or cant you compare those things at all?

Im trying to understand what "type" of performance increas you get by good ram.

Sorry if Im into som very basic questions, but i feel its important for to understand before i spend my cash :) 
February 23, 2006 4:21:15 PM

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Ok
Using such really good ram, is it comparable to 200mhz increase in cpu freq?
Or cant you compare those things at all?

Im trying to understand what "type" of performance increas you get by good ram.

Sorry if Im into som very basic questions, but i feel its important for to understand before i spend my cash :) 

Yes, for some applications it would feel like 200 more mhz. However, CPU's love lots of memory bandwidth, especially low-latency bandwidth in the case of AMD CPU's.
February 24, 2006 12:13:22 PM

My computer
3700+ AMD not overclocked yet
KN8- sli
corsair 2 gigs
ocz power stream 520
Evga and BFG 7800GT not over clocked yet
I play BF2 at 1680x1050 full settings 4x aa 4x af
sli gave me 3000 points in 3dmark05

Abit makes a great Motherboard http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/153
February 24, 2006 12:32:35 PM

Hows the 3700+ running for you? Is it good in your opinion?
February 24, 2006 1:16:45 PM

can you guys use the freaken space bar please
February 24, 2006 1:18:57 PM

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can you guys use the freaken space bar please

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February 24, 2006 3:35:59 PM

great really and I overclocked it to 2500 on stock cooling but, I run it at stock speeds

I switched from a P4 3.4 prescott and the performance is equal at stock speeds, but I can overclock with my new system and at 230 dollars its a steal because with better cooling I could run this at 2700mhz easy and thats alot of performance for 230 bucks IMHO.

system is very stable. I am not a expert but no problems with hardware
I had to update sound driver (I use the on board sound and it was studdered if I was doing a virus scan or something like that but the new nvida sound driver cured that.
February 24, 2006 6:52:48 PM

Ye i think my Thermaltake Armor case is ment to have excellent airflow/ventalation so when i do have a go at overclocking the 3700+ it should play a big part in keeping it stable (hopefully).
February 24, 2006 7:09:42 PM

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To the guy who broke his keyboard; you can press ALT-32 (numpad only) to print a space. Press ALT-65 and you will see an 'A' print. This has been around forever to type ASCII characters that keyboards don't support.
-AM
February 24, 2006 7:09:59 PM

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yesdvddoeshaveapointthereandIagree.AnyAMDprocessorwillprettymuchdowhatyouwantaslongasyoudon'tusecheapRAM.WellsaidDVD

LMAO

italklikethisbecauseibrokemyspacebarbeatingtheshitoutofmyT41lastnightandnowihavenochoicebuttolooklikeaworthlessnewbwithoutgrammarcapabilityomg

To the guy who broke his keyboard; you can press ALT-32 (numpad only) to print a space. Press ALT-65 and you will see an 'A' print. This has been around forever to type ASCII characters that keyboards don't support.
-AM
February 24, 2006 7:24:00 PM

Laptops do not have keypads.
-.-
February 24, 2006 7:40:36 PM

That should be good for F.E.A.R., but don't expect resolutions higher than 1280x1024.
February 24, 2006 7:45:48 PM

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That should be good for F.E.A.R., but don't expect resolutions higher than 1280x1024.


You kidding? My system easily runs FEAR at highest no AA/Full AS filtering/no soft shadows @ 1280x1024, that's with a 6800gt...
February 24, 2006 8:36:31 PM

How come I can only go up to 1152x864?

I've got a 7800 GTX and my LCD is good for 1280x1024! Works in EVERYTHING else at 1280!

Weird.....
February 24, 2006 8:40:51 PM

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How come I can only go up to 1152x864?

I've got a 7800 GTX and my LCD is good for 1280x1024! Works in EVERYTHING else at 1280!

Weird.....


god hates you.
February 24, 2006 9:33:56 PM

:D 

He must do. Why else would I follow the Jets!

I must be missing something. I'll try downloading the upgrades....

:D 
February 24, 2006 10:39:44 PM

is anybody else's web page on this thread screwed up, mine is about double the width of normal, and i have to scroll over to read the whole thread, wtf. :evil: 
February 25, 2006 7:48:44 AM

That sounds like a browser problem. Thread appears normally for me....
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February 25, 2006 11:16:21 AM

"Im a 100% gamer and i play Fear, Bf2, Hl2 etc. and am hoping to run these games and any upcoming fps's on max detail nice and smoothely. "

With the GTX256's rather high prices, I'd probably save an extra $50-$100 and instead opt for a single 1900XT, which will be roughly par in performance with a pair of SLI'd GTX256 cards...

As to the original question, yes, the 3700+ is certainly enough processor for gaming, and, the higher the res, the less important it becomes in the results. (In FEAR's performance demo at 1024x768/4xAA/16xAF, for instance, a 3500+ scores the same as an FX57, meaning, once you are gpu bound, 600 MHz extra offers little benefit.)
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February 25, 2006 11:20:19 AM

"My system easily runs FEAR at highest no AA/Full AS filtering/no soft shadows @ 1280x1024, that's with a 6800gt...
"

FEAR is rather a beast, but as long as AA/SS is off, most cards can handle it at decent resolutions...

Once 4xAA/16xAF is on at only 1024x768, the average 79 fps a 7800GT gets, for instance quickly drops to 52 fps average
February 25, 2006 12:58:31 PM

a 600 W PSU is way over the top... you will never need that... with your config a 450W PSU is enough... even with SLI. If you wanna be on the save side with SLI I would max go for 500W but 600 is the value for the year 2010 PC.

600W will waste energy like crazy 4 nothing...
February 25, 2006 1:01:15 PM

I guess im in for a treat then :D  , i probly wont even be using high resolutions anyway cause of my 17" IBM monitor, but theres always room for upgrades!
February 25, 2006 1:11:28 PM

Oh no.... i didnt know i was that overboard. So are you saying it wont work with my system at all or is it just that it'll give more power than needed?? Aslo what PSU's are you guys using?
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February 25, 2006 1:30:11 PM

"sli is a waste of money. "

I wouldn't say *that*.....; an extra 7800GT bumps FEAR framerates from 49 fps to 98 fps at 1024x768/4xAA/16xAF, a mere 92% boost or so..

Yes, the 1900XT is outstanding, and its the way I personally would go, but, what about the performance offered by, perhaps,... two 7900GTX's?? :-)

If anything, it's Crossfire with a pair of 1900's that is a waste of money, as the 1900 series does not really scale upward in performance as much as SLI comos do...
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February 25, 2006 1:32:58 PM

"If you wanna be on the save side with SLI I would max go for 500W but 600 is the value for the year 2010 PC.
"

Or really, even 600 watts will not cut it for some of the quad-sli Dell rigs coming...

(Each video card pair will also need an external 125 watt laptop PS running it!) Total: 850 watts
February 26, 2006 1:22:08 AM

i don't think its a browser problem because every other page looks normal, even other threads. :?
February 26, 2006 1:40:54 AM

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That should be good for F.E.A.R., but don't expect resolutions higher than 1280x1024.


You kidding? My system easily runs FEAR at highest no AA/Full AS filtering/no soft shadows @ 1280x1024, that's with a 6800gt...
Why buy a high end card if you can't use antialiasing? I use 8X for most of my games, and 4X for a special few, such as Age of EmpiresIII and F.E.A.R.
February 26, 2006 2:51:44 AM

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That should be good for F.E.A.R., but don't expect resolutions higher than 1280x1024.


You kidding? My system easily runs FEAR at highest no AA/Full AS filtering/no soft shadows @ 1280x1024, that's with a 6800gt...
Why buy a high end card if you can't use antialiasing? I use 8X for most of my games, and 4X for a special few, such as Age of EmpiresIII and F.E.A.R.

I think higher resolutions > AA in image quality.
February 26, 2006 3:05:55 AM

I guess that's a matter of opinion, I myself like both.
February 26, 2006 3:12:27 AM

Couldn't afford a 7800gt at the time of my build.
February 26, 2006 5:26:09 PM

Would SLI 7800 gtx's actually be necessary for playing games like FEAR on max if i'll only be playing at 1024x768 resolution?
February 26, 2006 6:26:28 PM

no I dont think so... I played on close to maxed out with a 7800 gt single card. I played it at 1680x1050 or whatever was closest I can remember
the GTX at lower res it would be fine. Two would be overkill in SLi But if I had the money sure.
February 26, 2006 6:35:34 PM

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Would SLI 7800 gtx's actually be necessary for playing games like FEAR on max if i'll only be playing at 1024x768 resolution?


Hell no! By the way, never fall for SLi/Crossfire advertising. It's all marketing and bragging rights; real world performance would be better to have one super-powerful card.
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