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HP Says It Must Get Back Into Smartphone Biz

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September 16, 2012 10:54:31 PM

This will be a challenge for them. Even though they had good critical opinion of their last effort, and those who did use WebOS seemed to like it, they didn't sell that much, which is why they shut it down. For HP now they will have to overcome the perception that they already failed at this once, despite have actually had a reasonably decent product last time around. They're going to have to convince people that despite what happened last time, despite the competitors out there, and despite rejoining this fight when it's already so old, that they deserve a chance. That means doing something hardware and software wise that can really impress people. Not saying they can't do it, but it's going to be really tough.
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September 16, 2012 11:56:45 PM

Android and Web OS are both open source. Make a version of Web OS that can run Android apps. Web OS is the best user experience I have seen on a mobile device.
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September 17, 2012 12:02:48 AM

Maybe they should make a phone with Android in first start? Then, when WebOS is good enough for mobile, make a phone with it.
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September 17, 2012 1:05:57 AM

The smartphone market is overcrowded. Apple and Samsung are the only ones making bank (Apple much more than Samsung), and now that Microsoft and Nokia are trying to muscle in, it's going to get even tougher.

HP's been trying to reinvent themselves for the last 10 years, but I doubt smartphones are going to do it for them. Maybe make 3D printers? Or what IBM did (although they lack IBMs gravitas)
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September 17, 2012 1:31:26 AM

The more the merrier. We need as many companies making phones as possible.
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September 17, 2012 1:42:01 AM

so what poor company are they going to buy and decimate now?
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September 17, 2012 2:35:11 AM

IMO HP had their chance with WebOS but they stuck their nose up at it...
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September 17, 2012 3:25:23 AM

Dig a hole, fill it in. Dig a hole fill it in. That's (regrettably) the new hp way. So sad this company used to be great.
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September 17, 2012 3:37:02 AM

HP touchpad as the Number 2 tablet in the US when it was dumped. It's still better than Android in user experience. Imagine they'd actually run with if for the last year. It was shortsighted and greedy to think they would take on Apple and turn a profit in the first 3 months.
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September 17, 2012 6:13:06 AM

HP should get back into the mobile business....after all HP stands for "Hand Phone"...hope they patent it before Apple declares they patent the word.
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September 17, 2012 8:08:02 AM

Wonder if their phone will be filled with bloatware like their printer drivers and computers. Hope not that was my biggest grip on HP, they make you jump through hoops to get their stuff working right. Hope I am proved wrong though and they enter the phone business and provide more competition.
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September 17, 2012 9:09:26 AM

Notes to self:
1. Get back into smartphone biz
2. Win Lotto double jackpot

Actually the above two have about the same chance of success for HP. Sad that the innovator has become the follower, but they have a long way to go before their culture can innovate competitively again.
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September 17, 2012 11:21:10 AM

It appears that most people here believe that if you fail once you should just lie down and die. If Apple fail with the iphone5 may be they should give up as well,in fact why are we even bothering to live becasue we will fail eventually, leave it to companies who keep on trying outside of Europe and the USA. The Palm buyout and then failure to launch is not the first time that Compaq/HP ventured into the mobile market. This was a missed opportunity maybe but not the first attempt (HTC made the previous devices for HP/Compaq and they are not doing too bad atm).
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September 17, 2012 11:47:46 AM

Shut up, Meg.
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September 17, 2012 12:10:56 PM

I'm still waiting for HP to get laptops and desktops right. Their products or boring and unrelaible, which leads me to believe their phones will be the same.
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September 17, 2012 12:41:13 PM

You were right there HP...one more step and you could have a piece of the pie.
Other companies have make a lot more with less. I don't know what you were thinking.
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September 17, 2012 1:10:10 PM

HP, welcome to the bloodbath.

I think they have a much better chance at creating a new market niche, perhaps with "glasses" powered by webOS or Android, or something radically different.

Whatever they do has to deliver new "value" to consumers. Maybe very lean and run only web apps, or have an amazing HUD user interface, or machine-brain interface. Imagine an Android or webOS device with cognitive recognition.
-SK
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September 17, 2012 3:55:29 PM

More Corporate Liesit needs to take advantage of that particular form factor. In many countries, people can't afford to purchase a tablet, laptop or PC


You can go to Wal-Mart and pick up a capable HP Laptop for about $300, but HP is targeting the customer that can't afford that? HP isn't going after the crowd that spends $400+ (plus a two-year contract for $100/mo service) for their phones? Either this is true and HP fails for being stupid or it is false and HP fails for yet again misrepresenting their goals.
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September 17, 2012 4:39:05 PM

I agree that an alliance with Microsoft for a windows phone is their best chance at reentering. HP can still leverage muscle in the corporate sector - could take BBerrys remaining market share without too much difficulty.

Taking on Apple/Google/Consumers should be step II - after they have established in friendly territory.
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September 17, 2012 10:24:27 PM

craig_1000 said:
It appears that most people here believe that if you fail once you should just lie down and die. If Apple fail with the iphone5 may be they should give up as well,in fact why are we even bothering to live becasue we will fail eventually, leave it to companies who keep on trying outside of Europe and the USA. The Palm buyout and then failure to launch is not the first time that Compaq/HP ventured into the mobile market. This was a missed opportunity maybe but not the first attempt (HTC made the previous devices for HP/Compaq and they are not doing too bad atm).


you must really be ignorant if you think HP has only failed once.

go grow a brain :lol: 
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September 19, 2012 6:38:14 PM

killerclickThe smartphone market is overcrowded. Apple and Samsung are the only ones making bank (Apple much more than Samsung), and now that Microsoft and Nokia are trying to muscle in, it's going to get even tougher.HP's been trying to reinvent themselves for the last 10 years, but I doubt smartphones are going to do it for them. Maybe make 3D printers? Or what IBM did (although they lack IBMs gravitas)


Apple and Samsung are making bank on toys which arent meant for businesses or enterprise,HP is known to make real buisiness phones outside of RIM.If HP made a Windows phone 8 device with a physical keyboard(vertical obviously) I would be very inclined to buy it.
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September 20, 2012 5:54:09 PM

koss64 said:
Apple and Samsung are making bank on toys which arent meant for businesses or enterprise,HP is known to make real buisiness phones outside of RIM.If HP made a Windows phone 8 device with a physical keyboard(vertical obviously) I would be very inclined to buy it.


please stop with the business smartphone crap. if business smartphones were still relevant RIM wouldn't be near death right now
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