Opteron or Athlon?

[pengwin]

its an opty better than an athlong

im looking at these 2 they are evenly prices if the opty is better i'll get that


AMD Opteron 246 Troy 1GHz HT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103617

VS

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz HT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535


the opteron has a bigger L2 cache

 

[dvdpiddy]

well get the 1 series they are much better than the 2 series and the 1 series are s939 and the opty is way better!

 

[pengwin]

alright that bring sme to this question

if i buy a socket 940 motehrboard can i only run 1 CPU? instead of 2?

 

[dvdpiddy]

yes you can

 

[pengwin]

really?

so like i can completely disregard one CPU socket and jus trun one CPU until i have enough moolah to buy another?

 

[dvdpiddy]

yes buy one 246 now and get another one later and yes you can use different speed procs with s940 only on amd

 

[pengwin]

thats really cool

ty

 

[MadModMike]

Pengwin, if you want to get the Dual Opties, get:

This Motherboard
This CPU
This Heatsink/Fan
This RAM (2 sticks)
This RAM Heatspreader (1 for each stick)

Get those components, and put 1 stick of RAM in the 4x DIMM area and 1 in the 2x DIMM area. Each CPU will have 512MB Single Channel memory. Don't worry, that Corsair is in a workstation of mine and it gives me 4.2GB/s Single Channel bandwidth. You can get 2 more sticks and 2 more heatsinks for the RAM later and really have power.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[dvdpiddy]

welcome but listen to mike(madmodmike) he knows ALOT MORE ABOUT SERVERS THAN I DO I ONLY BUILD PCS FOR THE REGULAR GUY who doesnt need a comp that can handle up to 100ppl at a time accesing it for info

 

[pengwin]

well i really dont want a server i just wan something i can game on and do other normal joe stuff on


what about this mobo mike?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130523

 

[MadModMike]

That board has alot of features. The SATA II / PATA and RAID is nice, and the fact it has SLI is great. The 2 things that worry me are 1) It's size. It's a standard ATX board (12" x 9.6") while normal Dual Opteron (or any server board/workstation board for that matter) are Extended ATX (12" x 13"). That board is very small, the CPU's are close to the RAM and your video cards are real close to the CPU, which would inhibit large heatsinks. And 2) The RAM. I am not sure if this is true as I have only recently seen this board, but it appears that this board has 6x DIMM's for 1 CPU.

That means that if it's true, one of the CPU's has to fetch RAM through the first CPU (Say bye to NUMA) and that is just crap. But, since you're probably only going to use 1 CPU for awhile, that board might be nice. I would still recommend getting the board I said, unless you want SLI.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[dvdpiddy]

hey man get an opty 265 first then add another its like having 4 procs cause the opty 265 is a dual core and if you just wanna game get the opty 165 on an a8n-sli premium and some corsair ram it should be a little cheaper

 

[pengwin]

i went to look for ram and danm kingston hyper X ram costs like 200 bucks for 1 gig kit of 2

do u kno any cheap ram i can ue with that mobo?


ye si like th eSLI option that way when time comes to mess with my system i can just buy anotehr look alike card instead of buying a newer more expensive one

 

[dvdpiddy]

mike i dont think it can run sli i dont see a connector

 

[MadModMike]

The nForce Professional chipset (on some motherboards) can support SLI. That board seems to be able to support it. Pengwin, are you looking for 2 1GB sticks? If so, you're going to pay alot of money for them, no matter what you buy. I recommend the Corsair XMS for about $220 I believe it is, check newegg for it. Make sure it's ECC and Registered memory.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[pengwin]

no im looking for 1 GB in a kit for 2 x 512 and that costs 200+ dollars which is CRAZY

 

[MadModMike]

Pengwin, look to my first post, it linked you to RAM and Heatsinks for that RAM, buy 2 of those sticks, each is 512MB and $70 each. Add in the heatsinks, $82 for each stick, that's the best price you'll get.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[pengwin]

hmm

what about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144162

 

[dvdpiddy]

ok man and peng 2 things are you getting the opty 1 or 2 sereis and never get kingston only good brands like ocz crucial and corsair

dvdpiddy logging off good night everyone

 

[MadModMike]

Don't get Kingston. If I were you, I would scrap the whole Dual Opty idea and get an Opteron 165 Dual Core. It's 1.8GHz and can overclock very nicely. If you want to change your mind, I can put together a nice system for you and you can see it.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[pengwin]

but i mean...whats the big differnece between kignston and corsair its the same ram in the end

edit

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145310

corsairs latency is lower

i lie

 

[pengwin]

165 is pricy i need to build a budget PC

opty mobos are also pricey ill think it over i dunno maybe stickin to athlon is better for now

 

[dvdpiddy]

ok man long story short corsair is quality i gotta go now bye

dvdpiddy logging off good night everyone

 

[pengwin]

ok ill talk to mike then

 

[MadModMike]

Scrap the idea and get the following:

AMD Opteron 146 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache
ASUS A8N-SLI Motherboard
2 512MB Crucial Ballistix DDR500 RAM

That is a good system, if you need links, let me know.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time