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HP ML 350 G3 with pci-x ( not pci-express ). Does anyone know of an
existing video card with the compaq pci-x interface ( i know plain
jane pci will work but I would like better performance ).

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No one makes a viedo card for pci-x just agp and pci express

Reply to jokersgrin

I think he specifically stated PCI-X. Most server boards don't even have an AGP slot, many have onboard video and a bunch of PCI-X slots.

Besides, AGP cards would work in AGP Pro slots if that's what he had.

Reply to Crashman

i still think he's thinkin AGP pro (extra long slot) or otherwise the card is PCI in a PCI-X slot???

Reply to apache_lives

I've seen boards with both PCI and PCI-X slots, in fact they're quite common.

Reply to Crashman

Next time show a picture for them :P
eg: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we.html
or: ftp://ftp.tyan.com/img_mobo/i_s2895.tif

Oh, and if the PCI-X slot is backwards compatible (most are to PCI 3.3v, but not PCI 5v cards) then you can install a PCI (most likely 2.2 / 2.3) video card as an 'upgrade'.... sadly this limits you heaps and you'll get nothing worth bragging about in the PCI video card department :(

Just be thankful PCI-X is backwards compatible, but only with newer 3.3v cards, of a certain PCI version (2.2 ?) they should be key'd slightly differently. (eg: Look at an Audigy 1 vs an Audigy 2 ZS to see the difference - from memory)

You should've thought of this before buying a server :P

The Tyan K8WE is a fine board that is based on the nForce Pro 2200, 2050 and AMD-8000 series chipsets.... it thus sports 2 x PCIe x16 slots and supports SLI.

EDIT: Sorry, you already knew all that :P

You could try looking for older Matrox video cards perhaps ?, no new GPU cards will be available for you to install on that system as far as I'm aware.

GeForce 4 MX 460 for PCI slot might be it really, and the performance difference between the PCI and AGP varients once in game is not that huge so long as it has enough video memory.

If the PCI-X slots run on seperate bridges or tunnels you can run some at 100/133 or 66/100 x 64 bit, and just the video one at 33/66 x 32 bit (and sadly chances are it will be 33 MHz x 32 bit)... obviously you don't want one video card limiting other slots to the same slow ass settings.

eg: 133 MB/sec bus vs a 533 MB/sec to 1.066 GB/sec bus.

Can you get a photo of the board, and maybe link to the manual / jumper (if any) configs ?

If you're just running *nix or Solaris on it an old PCI Tseng Labs card should do the job shouldn't it ?

Reply to TabrisDarkPeace

Checked: http://www.hp.com/buy/parts ; and it appears HP / Compaq stock nothing for it anymore.

Google, Alltheweb, etc and searching for PCI-X video cards is your best bet.... and sadly most the idiots out there abvreviate PCI Express Graphics x16 as PCI-X, and not PCIe x16 or PEG x16 as they should be.

If you want more than GeForce 4 MX performance you'll need to get a new server board with both PCI-X and PCIe x16 slots.

http://www.tyan.com is a good starting place.
then next bet would be:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/product [...] ClassID=17

Sell the system and start over ?

Reply to TabrisDarkPeace

d00d, Radeon 8500 based cards are available in PCI as well. The 9100 is an 8500LE (renamed, that's it) and was available in PCI.

That's a full generation newer than GeForce2 cards like the GeForce4 MX460, and a full step higher market range as well.

Reply to Crashman

True,

I used to run a Radeon 9000 Pro (AGP though) performed a full 40% better than the Radeon 9000 (non Pro) card..... while saving for a Hercules / Guillemot Radeon 9700 Pro.

It was a damn good card, but today it wouldn't even hold a candle performance wise to the Radeon X800 XL or GeForce 6800 GT/GS.

Reply to TabrisDarkPeace

Thanks everyone. I am using a regular pci(128mb) I got down at the
local shop. The onboard ati-rsge chip with 8mb was just not doing it for me. This thing used to be a server and is now my workstation for
oracle dev....blah, blah.
It does only have pci and pci-x slots in it. I will stick with theold
nvidia geforce 5200x that I stuck in it.
Thanks again.

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