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March 2, 2006 9:09:56 PM

Update:
finally got my setup working early this summer - maybe just bad luck, who knows? But now i've bought a new psu, new stick of ram, yadda yadda... and i've spent much $$$ to ship the cards for rma. At least its working though, right?

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March 4, 2006 8:46:24 PM

My 7800 GT also has artifacting problems, haven't tried to RMA it yet.
March 4, 2006 9:38:47 PM

strange... keep us posted or me I have a BFG also
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March 6, 2006 3:19:19 PM

I did on RMA on my 6800 a few weeks ago. I shipped it on a Friday, got it back on the next Tuesday - pretty quick turn around. Brand new card, no problems with it at all. I know others who have done RMAs with them and had no problem, so it really just depends on "luck". Are you sure the problem isn't motherboard related?
March 8, 2006 3:16:13 AM

I had the same exact problem. I still dont know how i fixed it, but for some reason it just started working, i tried refformatting, and all that jazz, but nothing helped. The best guess i can come up with is that a) the fan got stuck and didnt spin, so the card overheated b) some part of the mobo got inadequate cooling for some reason c) it was a sign from god.
Seriously tho, i had the same exact problem, just check the fan, so its not stuck, make sure u got adequate cooling, and just let the computer shut off for a while, maybe like a day or two, watch the TV for that time.
March 9, 2006 12:53:24 AM

OMG the exact same thing happened to me. I bought a BFG geforce 7800 gt oc and i have dual monitors. Ever since "upgrading" when i select a program from one screen to the other it goes black for 5 sec then comes back. WoW has some buggy looking screens like you wouldn't believe. And when i try to play F.E.A.R. it starts up just fine.. sometimes, then the menu freezes, but audio still plays. I alt+tab it then try to get back in and it says i have no direct3D on my pc. So i dxdiag it and it too as well as WoW both say that i don't have direct3D. I restart my PC and i have it again 8O . I returned one and this one is even worse rofl. So we stand with BFG which is more and more seemingly 'not' the gamer's choice.
March 9, 2006 1:02:03 AM

Evga all the way, I have one of both 7800gt the Bfg ran hotter I had to upgrade cooling was almost 10 degrees diffrent, I switched it from master to slave still ran hotter
March 9, 2006 1:33:45 AM

I am running 2 BFG 6800GT oc's. I have had the issue with the fan stopping, and it scared the $%^# out of me. Way too much spent on this rig for something silly like a stalled/stopped fan to kill it. I found the problem to be related to overheating. When the new motherboard was installed, I (dumb #%%) placed one of the add in too close to the bottom GPU and as it heated up it auto shut off. Disabling SLI, sending messages that I have a SLI capable machine and should install a second GPU.

I shut down the system for a couple of minutes while I moved the add in to above the top GPU and by the time I was finished & turned it back on the fans restarted. I left the side off just to make sure the fan was rotating, It was. I then put the sides back on the case and kept an eye on the GPU temps for a little while.

Next ran several stres tests, aquamark 3d, 3dmark 01, 03, 05 & 06, Sisandra. All tests completed, and scores were better than previous MB. I am quite sure no one will say I was anything other than lucky. I was. But still, in relation to what everyone here is saying, I have seen the fan shut down and the card quickly disable. My temps are a little high as far as I am concerned. 61c top card, 60 bottom card normal usage. Still quite happy though.
March 9, 2006 1:36:30 AM

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My 7800 GT also has artifacting problems, haven't tried to RMA it yet.


What do you guys mean by "arifacting problems"?. I have a BFG 7800 gt oc. I haven't tried it out yet. Now i'm kinda worried. One of the guys complained that the card ran pretty hot. What is the norm for a vid card like ours? :twisted:
March 9, 2006 2:31:21 AM

45 idle 60 load would be good... artifact starts about 67 or so
remember this is just a generalization, but if you get 0ver 60 in a game you might think about lowering clocks or upgrading cooling
I am still noobish so get a second opinion
March 9, 2006 9:13:55 AM

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45 idle 60 load would be good... artifact starts about 67 or so
remember this is just a generalization, but if you get 0ver 60 in a game you might think about lowering clocks or upgrading cooling
I am still noobish so get a second opinion


What program do you use to monitor your vid card temp? Also what is artifact? FPS?
March 9, 2006 11:44:21 AM

everest home edition, speed fan(more advanced) or you could use nvidia utility right click desktop, left click, property's, settings, advanced, should be a tab with the name of gpu click that and there you are click temp settings leave it open play a 3d intensive game and ALT tab to desktop


but i would just get everest home edtion... neat program

if your gpu has a sensor???

fps frames per second
March 13, 2006 12:54:06 PM

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paid twenty bucks to ship the bad card to BFG

Paying to rma?? WTF? Did they pay u back?!?!?!?
March 13, 2006 1:47:31 PM

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My 7800 GT also has artifacting problems, haven't tried to RMA it yet.


What do you guys mean by "arifacting problems"?. I have a BFG 7800 gt oc. I haven't tried it out yet. Now i'm kinda worried. One of the guys complained that the card ran pretty hot. What is the norm for a vid card like ours? :twisted:

You can see in the pic and Video coming soon. The Textures are curropt and showing in the rong places as I move around. For example, the texture for the trees goes where the rocks are, and there are black paches on the houses.

March 13, 2006 2:42:10 PM

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45 idle 60 load would be good... artifact starts about 67 or so
remember this is just a generalization, but if you get 0ver 60 in a game you might think about lowering clocks or upgrading cooling
I am still noobish so get a second opinion


I'm going to throw something out there... I don't believe artifacts start at "67 or so" as this guy says... my 7800 GTX has a heat limit of 115 C... yes, 115 C... below that it should be running at full speed... once it hits that speed it's supposed to throttle the card down so it doesn't melt. Can anyone else back me up on this? 67C is WAY too cool of a temperature to be having artifacts... at least if you're pointing at the card's temperature as the source of the artifacts.
March 13, 2006 3:04:59 PM

You claim to be running it at 500MHz core; what did you expect without water cooling? I can't get my 7800GTs to run above 470MHz core without artifacting.
March 13, 2006 3:12:40 PM

I was running it a 500MHz, but only for 1 hour, now it's at 425MHz/1.05GHz stock. I don't think that 1 hour of OC will damage the card.
March 13, 2006 3:17:21 PM

Sometimes mine reaches 80. No problem whatsoever
a b Î Nvidia
March 13, 2006 3:47:21 PM

I assume you have updated all the bios' for the motherboard, but did you update the bios for the graphx card ?
March 13, 2006 6:29:47 PM

Updating a GPU's BIOS? I know it is possible, a company I know flashes the BIOS of its 7900 GTX's to get better OC's out of them, but updating them? Where do you find such BIOS updates? I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I've just never heard of a GPU BIOS doing something wrong like that.

~Ibrahim~
a b Î Nvidia
March 13, 2006 7:49:54 PM

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Updating a GPU's BIOS? I know it is possible, a company I know flashes the BIOS of its 7900 GTX's to get better OC's out of them, but updating them? Where do you find such BIOS updates? I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I've just never heard of a GPU BIOS doing something wrong like that.

~Ibrahim~


I have 2 evga 7800's that ran like crap. I went to the manufacturers website, registered my cards, and that allowed me to enter, and get the bios drivers for them. Perhaps bfg has the same setup. There has to be some for it somewhere.

Maybe it will help, maybe it won't. Who knows what's going on with his machine. If it was here in front of me I could tinker with it a while, but he's on his own.

The 7800's were overclocked when I got them, and wouldn't run at the factory presets. Updating the bios helped. Also, he may need to try a couple of different drivers to find the right ones. Or, he needs to crank down on his settings, or maybe he needs to cool his case better.......who knows ?

Maybe something is not set right in the bios ( mobo ). Maybe card was abused, and maybe bfg is shit..........? and it's time for an upgrade.
March 13, 2006 8:12:40 PM

I'm sorry for your unlucky incident. I have been using BFG since the 6800 and I haven't got any problems with them. :) 
March 13, 2006 8:26:08 PM

This issues sounds like a motherboard problem, not a video card issue.

I had this issue with an older NF2 based board, and ATI 9800 Pro.

I had the fan stop on the northbridge that lead to some serious over heating... (I'm talking roasty toasty...)

Neways after repairing the broken fan, and firing up the system she started fine. Anyways I started getting artifacts, shutdowns, etc... shortly after. I couldn't RMA the card as it was way old, but I was able to try 4 different video cards in the box. All of them had the same problem, so I tried the original card in my friends PC and it worked fine.

I was able to trace the issue back to the northbridge and that part of the AGP circutry must have cooked a lil to much... Replaced the board with another NF2 based board. and the problem disappeared.

You may want to look into your motherboard if this problem persists.
March 13, 2006 9:41:48 PM

iv got a BFG MX440 PCI edition

no probs for 4 years runs great (which is pretty crappy to todays standards but it runs source)

OCed it for a while still ran great

BFG ha sbeen good to me
March 13, 2006 11:55:28 PM

truth is every company will have some problems... I heard about Abit and bad capasitors but I still bought an Abit MOBO. Big deal. No company is perfect and they can't test everything or insure shipping will not hurt the item. When I order I just cross my fingers and hope for a computer part sent by the gods
March 14, 2006 1:03:44 AM

i think there are alot of overheating issues with the OC'ed cards, my 7800GTX has issues sometimes. but i will be getting my 7900GTX 512 soon. i an number 40 in the que
March 14, 2006 2:20:23 AM

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truth is every company will have some problems... I heard about Abit and bad capasitors but I still bought an Abit MOBO. Big deal. No company is perfect and they can't test everything or insure shipping will not hurt the item. When I order I just cross my fingers and hope for a computer part sent by the gods


actually

Abit boards are th emost tested boards i think

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/153
March 14, 2006 11:20:30 AM

I got my 7900GTX 512 in yesterday (BFG also), and my computer has been randomly freezing since I put it in. I can't figure out what is causing the lock ups. Computer was running fine before I stuck this card in there. Oh well, guess i'll trouble shoot some more when I get off work. :roll:
March 14, 2006 11:48:50 AM

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I got my 7900GTX 512 in yesterday (BFG also), and my computer has been randomly freezing since I put it in. I can't figure out what is causing the lock ups. Computer was running fine before I stuck this card in there. Oh well, guess i'll trouble shoot some more when I get off work. :roll:


:cry:  :roll:

Sorry to hear that.

You probably already know this but it could be the drivers, a weak PSU, overheating or a strange combination of a number of factors.

What kind of PSU do you have?

Are you getting BSODs?

What I am about to suggest is quite unorthodox but it has worked for me in the past, so please hear me out :-)

If I get hardware which is apparently causing crashes or not working in a particular operating system I usually try another one.

You might want to give Linux or BSD a try and see if the card still causes problems.

The Knoppix Live CD is particularly helpful in diagnosing problems, fixing broken machines, recovering data, etc

http://www.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD...

You might want to check it out.

It boots from your optical drive and runs entirely from the CD or DVD so it doesn't need to be installed.

If the system crashes under Knoppix then you will know with almost absolute certainty it is the hardware and not a software / windows problem.

If it doesn't crash then most likely it is a bad driver, windows itself or something else screwy.

There is an nVidia Linux driver btw and it even supports SLI :-D
March 14, 2006 2:30:42 PM

I guess I beter check those caps... :(  :?
a b Î Nvidia
March 14, 2006 5:01:21 PM

If you go over to newegg and read the reviews on this mobo, you'll see that many people have had various issues with this board. Maybe you can get in touch with the manufacturer and work a deal to get a replacement...

Don't be too hasty though, maybe you missed something.

You don't have the board optimized for sli, either in the bios, or when at desktop, you right click..... go in to see your graphics card settings, there's a spot to set up for sli, make sure thats not selected, and also in "advanced", where you set up antialiasing and such, there's another option for dual gpu something or other...... maybe thats checked ?
March 15, 2006 6:59:52 AM

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My 7800 GT also has artifacting problems, haven't tried to RMA it yet.


What do you guys mean by "arifacting problems"?. I have a BFG 7800 gt oc. I haven't tried it out yet. Now i'm kinda worried. One of the guys complained that the card ran pretty hot. What is the norm for a vid card like ours? :twisted:

You can see in the pic and Video coming soon. The Textures are curropt and showing in the rong places as I move around. For example, the texture for the trees goes where the rocks are, and there are black paches on the houses.


What do program do you use to find out how your vid card is running? Everest?
March 15, 2006 12:15:33 PM

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My 7800 GT also has artifacting problems, haven't tried to RMA it yet.


What do you guys mean by "arifacting problems"?. I have a BFG 7800 gt oc. I haven't tried it out yet. Now i'm kinda worried. One of the guys complained that the card ran pretty hot. What is the norm for a vid card like ours? :twisted:

You can see in the pic and Video coming soon. The Textures are curropt and showing in the rong places as I move around. For example, the texture for the trees goes where the rocks are, and there are black paches on the houses.


What do program do you use to find out how your vid card is running? Everest?

Riva tuner. Here is a video of the artifacting. You can see the wall changing. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-78427698248312...
March 16, 2006 2:46:29 AM

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My 7800 GT also has artifacting problems, haven't tried to RMA it yet.


What do you guys mean by "arifacting problems"?. I have a BFG 7800 gt oc. I haven't tried it out yet. Now i'm kinda worried. One of the guys complained that the card ran pretty hot. What is the norm for a vid card like ours? :twisted:

You can see in the pic and Video coming soon. The Textures are curropt and showing in the rong places as I move around. For example, the texture for the trees goes where the rocks are, and there are black paches on the houses.


What do program do you use to find out how your vid card is running? Everest?

Riva tuner. Here is a video of the artifacting. You can see the wall changing. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-78427698248312...

Thanks I got it.
March 19, 2006 10:19:46 PM

Wish I would have read this a few days ago. I have a gt6800 OC card and just recently when Windows boots up the blue light on the card dims and the fan slows down about 50%. Didn't think anything of it at first. But then I started noticing dropped frames is the games I normally play. It's as if the card was clocking down. So I called BFG, waited for 2 hours on the line to find out that I should ultimately format my HD....WTF? So to humor them, I went ahead and did that. As soon as I downloaded the new drivers and installed them, guess what. The light dims and the fan slows down. Again, slow performance in the games. Couldn't find anything on google so I know that it is not normal. Just hope that I dont have to go through 2-3 different RMA's until they get it right. =)

GA-K8U-939
GEFORCE 6800GT AGP
2 STICKS OF RAM (512M X 2) DUAL CHANNEL
(2) 10,000RPM RAPTORS SETUP AS RAID 0
SOUND BLASTER XFI PLATINUM
AMD ATHLON 4200 (X2) NO OC
(2) DVD-ROMS 820-A
April 2, 2006 11:24:43 PM

I'm having the same problem. Games will lock up with a splash of pixels followed by a dark screen that goes to standby. I then need to reboot to get the video back. I can still here the game running over my speakers so it is not a computer lockup.

I ran 3DMark and on the second 3D test I lost my video to the black screen. I also get video bleeding (artifacts?) This normally happens after the computer been on for a while and even the desktop has lines etc screwing up the screen.

I upgraded my PSU
I got the latest drivers, but have not done a MB BIOS update.
I have since ordered a external cooler for the card to see if that will help.

any more advice?

P4 3.00
GA-8IK1100 mother board
Antec 400 watts PSU
April 3, 2006 2:16:39 PM

That's odd. I got my bfg 6800GT right at two years ago. It's worked great until recently.

A month or so ago, I started having the same problem. Sometimes playing a game, sometimes just surfing, my monitor would lose feed.

I thought at first it was a heating issue. However, I have added no new components to my system in well over a year. (Course, a fan or something could be going out).

I found out, that if I took the card out and put it back in, I could boot back up and it would work fine.

Perhaps I should rma it.
April 3, 2006 9:52:18 PM

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That's odd. I got my bfg 6800GT right at two years ago. It's worked great until recently.

A month or so ago, I started having the same problem. Sometimes playing a game, sometimes just surfing, my monitor would lose feed.

I thought at first it was a heating issue. However, I have added no new components to my system in well over a year. (Course, a fan or something could be going out).

I found out, that if I took the card out and put it back in, I could boot back up and it would work fine.

Perhaps I should rma it.


Actually I was getting artifacts since I owned it. The lost feed started about 6 months ago. I am thinking its a heat issue. I flashed new bios on theMB. I'm not sure how to do it if there are an on the video card. I ordered an external fan for the card, and will see if that helps.

I do not need to removed the card. I just need to hard boot when I loose feed.
November 22, 2006 5:38:24 PM

I bought a BFG 7900GTXOC from newegg.com several months ago. I was playing CS:S and Steam was running at the time. There were some vertical lines on the monitor and then the video went black. The card never worked after that. I RMA'd the card to BFG via UPS at my own expense. They never admitted to receiving it 'til I got UPS involved. Then they sent me another defective card. BFG is rotten to the core. The card was awesome up until it went bad. Come time to use the BFG warranty you are screwed. Stay away from BFG. If this has happened to anyone else please tell the rest of us about it. IMO, these dirtbags should not be in business.
November 22, 2006 11:27:16 PM

Really BFG is that bad? One of the reasons I bought BFG is there life time warranty on the graphics card. That sucks. So far I haven't had any problems with my card yet.
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