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pike   08-17-2006 at 08:21:10 PM

JUST OFF HAND , ANYONE REMEMBER HOW A DUAL P3 say 2x 866 compares with say a small p4. I have the oportunaty of setting one up but wonder if it`s worth while considering it`s 80$ cad.

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Yahiko81   08-17-2006 at 08:22:25 PM
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What are you going to be using it for?

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WingDing   08-17-2006 at 08:25:55 PM
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A hippie computer, most likely.

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Multiplectic   08-17-2006 at 09:07:06 PM
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That would be a nice rock for my zen garden...

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pike   08-17-2006 at 09:13:41 PM
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for surfing, msn messenger a little basic word and excel however , perhaps some dvd burning.

What i`m wondering is the performance of the dualie p3 compared to a small p4. If a small p4 sys is less expensive and in the end more performing that why go for the little dual p3 !

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Yahiko81   08-17-2006 at 09:14:37 PM
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Do you have the p4 or is it something you're thinking about buying?

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fishmahn   08-17-2006 at 09:19:49 PM
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FWIW My Duron 848 still surfs just fine. An 866 P3 should be a bit faster, and 2 of them just means you wont' have issues multithreading.

It'll be slower than a 2.8g P4 regardless of what you're doing (i.e., even in a perfect smp situation, the P4 will likely be faster), and anything dual core.

Mike.

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pike   08-17-2006 at 09:35:05 PM
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Oh, i started playing with p1`s and p2`s for kids than went up into these p3`s and have 7 or 8 370 cpu`s that i`d like to use

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pike   08-17-2006 at 09:47:40 PM
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how do you beleive a dual p3 2 x 866 would compare to a small p4 say a 1.6 or 1.8?

Perhaps it`s a good time to upgrade my 13 yearold`s p3 750

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Yahiko81   08-17-2006 at 10:07:49 PM
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I might have a processor that you can have. I'll have to fish around for it. I think it's either a 2.4 or 2.6 p4. No promises though, my pc stuff seems to randomly disappear.

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WingDing   08-17-2006 at 10:21:07 PM
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That's because you keep ramming things up your bottom.

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Yahiko81   08-17-2006 at 10:21:55 PM
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Not Intentionally, I'm just not cautious of where I sit.

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WingDing   08-17-2006 at 10:26:00 PM
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Well, come over here then.....


...*unzipping sound*....

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Yahiko81   08-17-2006 at 10:31:09 PM
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:D sorry it's off to the store for me.

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AilingBlackLab   08-17-2006 at 10:32:14 PM
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Perhaps it`s a good time to upgrade my 13 yearold`s p3 750



If he's a smart kid he most likely barterd an Nforce 3 board & 64-3200 from one of his buddies & surpassed your system ages ago. :P

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fishmahn   08-17-2006 at 11:17:29 PM
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Single P3@1Ghz ~ P4@1.5Ghz. (don't remember if it was a little slower or faster)

So, a single P3/866 will be a little slower than that. Add the 2nd CPU, and sometimes it'll be faster than a 1.8, sometimes slower depending on multi-tasking/threading at the time.

IMO, its more dependent on the RAM & OS once you've broken the 700-800mhz range for basic surfing/word/excel/email/solitare. I see next to no difference between a 1ghz Athlon (PC133 RAM) and an 800mhz Duron in booting/surfing/etc. However, they're running different OS's - Athlon on 2kPro, Duron on 98se. RAM is 512 & 384 resp.

Mike.

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pike   08-17-2006 at 11:34:13 PM
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It's the tyan tiger 230t. A low end server board. I don't beleive it's worth what the guy is asking: 80 CAD without any processor but would be fun for my daughter compared to her single p3 750 and for her dad to set up. I need Pc 133 ram sticks

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fishmahn   08-18-2006 at 12:01:42 AM
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For that board with no CPU's, I doubt it's worth it. Nice board, but old, and IIRC, very little OC'ing ability. You should be able to get a Socket A mobo for under $50 new (in US prices, though you should be able to find a used one for even less), and then a $50 CPU. About the same, and you don't have to find 2 CPUs.

If you were going to put some of the 1.3ghz or 1.4ghz Tualitin P3's in it, it would be a nice fast dual system.

Mike.

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pike   08-18-2006 at 01:18:24 AM
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I have 866 p3's. And the tyan site says the board takes dual p3's of that speed only if they are of the 512 cache L2 series. Mine are 866/256/133/1.7v

PIII FC-PGA2 / 256kB
L2 Cache (133 MHz)
PIII FC-PGA2 / 512kB
L2 Cache (133 MHz)

Single
Single (only single!)
Single
Dual

Thunder HEsl-T
S2688
None
866 MHz - 1.13 GHz
1.06 - 1.4 GHz
1.06 - 1.4 GHz

Thunder LE-T
S2518
None
866 MHz - 1.13 GHz
1.06 - 1.4 GHz
1.06 - 1.4 GHz

Tiger 230T
S2507T
1.0, 1.1 (1.10A) - 1.4 GHz
866 MHz - 1.0 GHz
1.0 - 1.4 GHz
1.0 - 1.4 GHz

Tiger 200T
S2505T
1.0, 1.1 (1.10A) - 1.4 GHz
866 MHz - 1.0 GHz
1.0 - 1.4 GHz
1.0 - 1.4 GHz

Tomcat i815ef
S2425
1.0, 1.1 (1.10A) - 1.4 GHz
866 MHz - 1.2 GHz
1.13 - 1.4 GHz
n/a

Tomcat i815T
S2080
1.0, 1.1 (1.10A) - 1.4 GHz
866 MHz - 1.2 GHz
1.13 - 1.4 GHz
n/a


AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS:

Thunder HEsl-T
S2688
None
None
700 - 800MHz (S or D)
733MHz - 1GHz (S or D)

Thunder HEsl
S2567
None
None
500 - 850MHz
533MHz - 1GHz

Thunder i840
S2520
None
None
700 - 850MHz
667MHz - 1GHz

Thunder LE-T
S2518
None
None
700 - 800MHz
733MHz - 1GHz

Tiger LE
S2515
None
None
500 - 850MHz
533MHz - 1GHz

Thunder LE
S2510
None
None
500 - 800MHz
533MHz - 1GHz

Trinity 450
S2507S
None
600-800; 900MHz-1GHz
650 - 850 MHz
633MHz - 1GHz

Tiger 230T
S2507T
None
800; 900MHz - 1GHz
633-1000MHz (S or D)
633MHz -1GHz (S or D) #

Tiger 230
S2507D
None
600-800; 900MHz-1GHz
650 - 850 MHz
633MHz - 1GHz

Tiger 200T
S2505T
None
800; 900MHz - 1GHz
633-1000 MHz (S or D)
633MHz -1GHz (S or D)

Tiger 200
S2505
None
900-1000 MHz
650 - 850 MHz
633MHz - 1GHz

Tomcat i815ef
S2425
None
600-733; 900MHz-1GHz
800 MHz
667MHz -1GHz

Tomcat i810ef
S2420
333 - 667 MHz
600-800; 900MHz-1GHz
550 - 850 MHz
600MHz - 1GHz



There seems to be 3 versions of socket 370 p-3 at 133 mhz

256 L2
512 L2
coppermine

what's the difference with the coppermine ?

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pike   08-18-2006 at 02:33:20 AM
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Sell them? I just bought them!

So what is the difference between a coppermine and a regular 370 p-3?

Are my 866/256/133/1.7v coppermines?

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pike   08-18-2006 at 03:43:16 AM
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nice and clear...thank you.

Aren't you from canada? Ontario?

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Multiplectic   08-18-2006 at 03:50:48 AM
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Then there's the story of how THG got Intel to pull out the 1.13Ghz Coppermine.



That was a pure power display from THG, for sure.

Do you have any links at hand for me to read that story? I'm interested.

(I didn't even know about THG back in those days..) :oops:

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